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Equity Bank FY 2014 results profit after tax 29%
edwinmukiri
#81 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2015 12:16:03 PM
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How is Equity a high risk share yet it is a very profitable company with high growth opportunities???
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MaichBlack
#82 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2015 1:31:29 PM
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edwinmukiri wrote:
How is Equity a high risk share yet it is a very profitable company with high growth opportunities???

Equity is very high risk!!!

To those who don't own the stock!!!

There is a risk the price will keep rising! There is a risk they will never be able to board the bus. etc. etc.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
watesh
#83 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2015 1:39:04 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
edwinmukiri wrote:
How is Equity a high risk share yet it is a very profitable company with high growth opportunities???

Equity is very high risk!!!

To those who don't own the stock!!!

There is a risk the price will keep rising! There is a risk they will never be able to board the bus. etc. etc.

hahaha nice one boss Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
mlennyma
#84 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2015 2:10:12 PM
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watesh wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
edwinmukiri wrote:
How is Equity a high risk share yet it is a very profitable company with high growth opportunities???

Equity is very high risk!!!

To those who don't own the stock!!!

There is a risk the price will keep rising! There is a risk they will never be able to board the bus. etc. etc.

hahaha nice one boss Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

some stocks are so joined to the economy such that calling them risky you may be meaning the kenyan economy is risky for investment
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innairobi
#85 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2015 2:52:40 PM
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Tier 1 capital in Nigeria alone is more than a billion dorras if I'm not mistaken. Watatoboa kweli to go into all those countries in 5 years with their current budget?
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#86 Posted : Friday, April 03, 2015 12:11:36 AM
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innairobi wrote:
Tier 1 capital in Nigeria alone is more than a billion dorras if I'm not mistaken. Watatoboa kweli to go into all those countries in 5 years with their current budget?

Nigeria isn't for 2015 but when Equity is larger. It is better of starting with Ghana.

And it doesn't have to go in all alone but join up with Helios.

Look at I&M Bank which owns 50-75%of its subsidiaries but is in partnership in Tanzania, Mauritius and Rwanda. They have a partner in CIEL from Mauritius which has interests and experience in Tanzania. In Rwanda, 20% of I&M Rwanda (formerly BCR) is owned by Gov't of RW.

So Equity can own 51% but also partner with 1) Helios 2) A local bank or existing shareholders 3) A European/American/Chinese 'strategic' investor or fund
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mlennyma
#87 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 12:55:39 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
jwatesh wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
jwatesh wrote:
Just bought a huge bulk of equity stock at 52 at market open, I dont think we will be seeing that price ever again

equity will still trade at 47 range bwana

When was the last time you saw 47? To Be exact August 2014 and then it was the highest price registered at that moment. We havnt seen that again.

I can't be emotional to buy equity above 50 for now,let me keep what I have

Sad
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ngapat
#88 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 12:57:36 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
jwatesh wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
jwatesh wrote:
Just bought a huge bulk of equity stock at 52 at market open, I dont think we will be seeing that price ever again

equity will still trade at 47 range bwana

When was the last time you saw 47? To Be exact August 2014 and then it was the highest price registered at that moment. We havnt seen that again.

I can't be emotional to buy equity above 50 for now,let me keep what I have

Sad

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MaichBlack
#89 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 1:38:32 PM
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I was done buying Equity. Bought enough way back when. But with the current trends, I am wondering if I should not get in for some more at one point. It was not part of the plan for 2015 but at times when opportunities present themselves, you grab them with both hands!!!

Though I have other plans for 2015, I have just added Equity to the watch list! It goes to 45, I cock my gun. Any lower, finger on the trigger. When to pull the trigger.... Read my signature!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
The optimist
#90 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 1:50:57 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
I was done buying Equity. Bought enough way back when. But with the current trends, I am wondering if I should not get in for some more at one point. It was not part of the plan for 2015 but at times when opportunities present themselves, you grab them with both hands!!!

Though I have other plans for 2015, I have just added Equity to the watch list! It goes to 45, I cock my gun. Any lower, finger on the trigger. When to pull the trigger.... Read my signature!

What is the impact of the 400 million shares which Equity created for share swaps and private placements
MaichBlack
#91 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 1:55:48 PM
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The optimist wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
I was done buying Equity. Bought enough way back when. But with the current trends, I am wondering if I should not get in for some more at one point. It was not part of the plan for 2015 but at times when opportunities present themselves, you grab them with both hands!!!

Though I have other plans for 2015, I have just added Equity to the watch list! It goes to 45, I cock my gun. Any lower, finger on the trigger. When to pull the trigger.... Read my signature!

What is the impact of the 400 million shares which Equity created for share swaps and private placements

In real sense, nothing!

In terms of market psychology, who knows the moods people in this market are in! But moods should never bother you! Unless you want to take advantage of them!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Aguytrying
#92 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 2:00:20 PM
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ngapat wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
jwatesh wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
jwatesh wrote:
Just bought a huge bulk of equity stock at 52 at market open, I dont think we will be seeing that price ever again

equity will still trade at 47 range bwana

When was the last time you saw 47? To Be exact August 2014 and then it was the highest price registered at that moment. We havnt seen that again.

I can't be emotional to buy equity above 50 for now,let me keep what I have

Sad

Some wazuans have mastered market cycles


The market is very bearish. We are touching price points we haven't seen in months. eg Equity at 46.xy, NIC sub 60.00, BAT at 720, DTB at 230, JUB at 515. Despite better performances from last year. He who has eyes let him see, best case scenario- correction, worst case- Refer to @hisah comments on "Elliot wave ....on the NSe"
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
mlennyma
#93 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 2:04:06 PM
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Creation of shares is dilution, although the shares may not trade for the agreed lock in period , the impact is felt when evaluating the company
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MaichBlack
#94 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 3:57:18 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Creation of shares is dilution, although the shares may not trade for the agreed lock in period , the impact is felt when evaluating the company

It is not dilution per se. The minute they are 'used', shareholders will immediately get more assets, a going concern etc.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
watesh
#95 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 6:34:39 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Creation of shares is dilution, although the shares may not trade for the agreed lock in period , the impact is felt when evaluating the company

It is not dilution per se. The minute they are 'used', shareholders will immediately get more assets, a going concern etc.

These shares will be used to acquire banks so basically its just retained earnings..
edwinmukiri
#96 Posted : Friday, April 10, 2015 11:30:42 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
edwinmukiri wrote:
How is Equity a high risk share yet it is a very profitable company with high growth opportunities???

Equity is very high risk!!!

To those who don't own the stock!!!

There is a risk the price will keep rising! There is a risk they will never be able to board the bus. etc. etc.

Haha very true.
Bulls make money,bears make money and pigs get slaughtered.
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