Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2011 Posts: 1,740 Location: Nairobi
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And there is something known as white noise..
Sacco traditionally always pay dividends, in fact it the shareholders who decide what to do with the profit. Not like the case of corporate where the board decides and uses the shareholder as a rubber stamp.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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streetwise wrote:And there is something known as white noise..
Sacco traditionally always pay dividends, in fact it the shareholders who decide what to do with the profit. Not like the case of corporate where the board decides and uses the shareholder as a rubber stamp.
"it 's the shareholders who decide". True but they sometimes use delegate system (ADM instead of AGM) and lobbying can turn tables!!!!Honararia imepeanwa? The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2011 Posts: 1,740 Location: Nairobi
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Kwani we ni member !!! can we share the spoils
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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streetwise wrote:Kwani we ni member !!! can we share the spoils "We" are still accepting more MEMBAs!! The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2011 Posts: 1,740 Location: Nairobi
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Count me member number N+1
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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BGL wrote:Unaitas announces the payment of first and final dividend of 8% per share at KSh.114m up from KSh. 61m in 2014. Will they load this amount to your account? Is it possible to turn these "children" into "slaves"? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/1/2010 Posts: 518 Location: kandara, Murang'a
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murchr wrote:BGL wrote:Unaitas announces the payment of first and final dividend of 8% per share at KSh.114m up from KSh. 61m in 2014. Will they load this amount to your account? Is it possible to turn these "children" into "slaves"? I have done this year in year out. They put div in your ac, but you have to instruct them to reinvest it. Foresight..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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gatoho wrote:murchr wrote:BGL wrote:Unaitas announces the payment of first and final dividend of 8% per share at KSh.114m up from KSh. 61m in 2014. Will they load this amount to your account? Is it possible to turn these "children" into "slaves"? I have done this year in year out. They put div in your ac, but you have to instruct them to reinvest it. Thanks bro! cheers! "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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streetwise wrote:Count me member number N+1 Where N is ... Find a clue here: http://www.businessdaily...0/-/j5ek3sz/-/index.html The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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murchr wrote:BGL wrote:Unaitas announces the payment of first and final dividend of 8% per share at KSh.114m up from KSh. 61m in 2014. Will they load this amount to your account? Is it possible to turn these "children" into "slaves"?  @murchr mbavu zinaniuma. chudwen into slaves...yani milele hawatoki huko utumwani. Even your grandchildren will be there. I like it. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Boris Boyka wrote:murchr wrote:BGL wrote:Unaitas announces the payment of first and final dividend of 8% per share at KSh.114m up from KSh. 61m in 2014. Will they load this amount to your account? Is it possible to turn these "children" into "slaves"? @murchr mbavu zinaniuma. chudwen into slaves...yani milele hawatoki huko utumwani. Even your grandchildren will be there. I like it. sitaki matunda, all of them will be my slaves. They should work for me.  "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Today when I was there I felt for the first time like I was in a bank. the place was bustling with life, there were so many applicants for new accounts. this bank is curving out a niche for itself I could see it. ready to redeploy the slaves The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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Aguytrying wrote:Today when I was there I felt for the first time like I was in a bank. the place was bustling with life, there were so many applicants for new accounts. this bank is curving out a niche for itself I could see it.
ready to redeploy the slaves How many branches does "the SACCO" intend to open this year? The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2011 Posts: 1,740 Location: Nairobi
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In a few year u will be like those who bought land on thika Rd.
And more seriously I think unaitas I'd eating into equity space
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/8/2008 Posts: 20
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After my 1000+% gain with CIC, this is what I concluded regarding buying shares that are going to be listed. I foresee Unaitas following a trend I saw with CIC: There are THREE Magic Numbers that dominate Pre-Listing Stock Purchases: 1. SPLIT FACTOR - This is the number of times one share will be split before being introduced into the market. The first reason as to why a share is split before listing is to make its Ordinary Share Price fall in tune with the Ordinary Share Price of “Peer” counters/shares in the stock exchange. The other reason is to ensure that the quantity of shares available for trading is sufficient enough to sustain the volume demands in the stock exchange. Examples in Kenya are The Co-operative Bank which was split 100 times before listing and CIC Insurance Group which was split 20 times before listing. 2. LISTING PRICE - This is the price at which each share of a company will be listed. Any company listing at the NSE is required by laws and regulations to indicate and support the price that will be applied during listing. The company arrives at this price through a valuation of its business to determine the present value of each share. 3. MARKET PRICE - once the company is listed, its price will henceforth be determined by market forces of demand and supply. Some prospective buyers will use various analysis tools to determine the price. Other buyers will have no clue but will use the going prices in the market to buy the shares since they will be convinced by their stockbrokers, friends or relatives that the shares are a good investment. As they do all these gymnastics, the investor who purchased the shares before listing is just busy doing other things that matter to his/her life, WAITING FOR THE BIG KILL!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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Ngundi wrote:After my 1000+% gain with CIC, this is what I concluded regarding buying shares that are going to be listed. I foresee Unaitas following a trend I saw with CIC:
There are THREE Magic Numbers that dominate Pre-Listing Stock Purchases:
1. SPLIT FACTOR - This is the number of times one share will be split before being introduced into the market. The first reason as to why a share is split before listing is to make its Ordinary Share Price fall in tune with the Ordinary Share Price of “Peer” counters/shares in the stock exchange. The other reason is to ensure that the quantity of shares available for trading is sufficient enough to sustain the volume demands in the stock exchange. Examples in Kenya are The Co-operative Bank which was split 100 times before listing and CIC Insurance Group which was split 20 times before listing.
2. LISTING PRICE - This is the price at which each share of a company will be listed. Any company listing at the NSE is required by laws and regulations to indicate and support the price that will be applied during listing. The company arrives at this price through a valuation of its business to determine the present value of each share.
3. MARKET PRICE - once the company is listed, its price will henceforth be determined by market forces of demand and supply. Some prospective buyers will use various analysis tools to determine the price. Other buyers will have no clue but will use the going prices in the market to buy the shares since they will be convinced by their stockbrokers, friends or relatives that the shares are a good investment. As they do all these gymnastics, the investor who purchased the shares before listing is just busy doing other things that matter to his/her life, WAITING FOR THE BIG KILL!! @ngundi please share some of your secrets , how were u able to know the stocks to buy before listing did you get insider information , rather what are the other potential stocks coming up that u can buy before they are listed ,kindly share
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2011 Posts: 1,740 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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streetwise wrote:Start with Unaitas Thanks , next ni gani
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/14/2010 Posts: 521 Location: Nairobi
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Anyone with the 2014 numbers?
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/8/2008 Posts: 20
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enyands wrote:Ngundi wrote:After my 1000+% gain with CIC, this is what I concluded regarding buying shares that are going to be listed. I foresee Unaitas following a trend I saw with CIC:
There are THREE Magic Numbers that dominate Pre-Listing Stock Purchases:
1. SPLIT FACTOR - This is the number of times one share will be split before being introduced into the market. The first reason as to why a share is split before listing is to make its Ordinary Share Price fall in tune with the Ordinary Share Price of “Peer” counters/shares in the stock exchange. The other reason is to ensure that the quantity of shares available for trading is sufficient enough to sustain the volume demands in the stock exchange. Examples in Kenya are The Co-operative Bank which was split 100 times before listing and CIC Insurance Group which was split 20 times before listing.
2. LISTING PRICE - This is the price at which each share of a company will be listed. Any company listing at the NSE is required by laws and regulations to indicate and support the price that will be applied during listing. The company arrives at this price through a valuation of its business to determine the present value of each share.
3. MARKET PRICE - once the company is listed, its price will henceforth be determined by market forces of demand and supply. Some prospective buyers will use various analysis tools to determine the price. Other buyers will have no clue but will use the going prices in the market to buy the shares since they will be convinced by their stockbrokers, friends or relatives that the shares are a good investment. As they do all these gymnastics, the investor who purchased the shares before listing is just busy doing other things that matter to his/her life, WAITING FOR THE BIG KILL!! @ngundi please share some of your secrets , how were u able to know the stocks to buy before listing did you get insider information , rather what are the other potential stocks coming up that u can buy before they are listed ,kindly share Hi Enyands. I am humbled to testify that I got information about CIC right HERE at Wazua. I pursued the 'bus' and evaluated it as much as I could. With limited information available in the public domain, I had to do the unimaginable - write to the then CEO, Mr. Nelson. What he told me was like jet fuel to me; I took off and amassed a good chunk within the limited time left. I also learnt about UNAITAS right here in wazua back in 2012. I have 'eaten' two dividend payouts already and I am going for the third one this coming Monday. BottomLine: WAZUA is the place to be ..... for anyone seeking premium information and honest investment analysis. Be blessed and Happy Investing
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