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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs.
Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God? You guys are outright hilarious. Answer the question as posted. Who created your God ? Maneno nyingi achia @ alphadoti work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Tokyo wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs.
Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God? You guys are outright hilarious. Answer the question as posted. Who created your God ? Maneno nyingi achia @ alphadoti No one.Nothing.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs.
Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God? You guys are outright hilarious. Answer the question as posted. Who created your God ? Maneno nyingi achia @ alphadoti No one.Nothing. @Symbols, could you be discriminating questions you wish to answer?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs.
Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God? You guys are outright hilarious. Answer the question as posted. Who created your God ? Maneno nyingi achia @ alphadoti No one.Nothing. @Symbols, could you be discriminating questions you wish to answer? What gives you that idea?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs.
Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God? You guys are outright hilarious. Answer the question as posted. Who created your God ? Maneno nyingi achia @ alphadoti No one.Nothing. @Symbols, could you be discriminating questions you wish to answer? What gives you that idea? Because I asked one and it hasn't been answered.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs.
Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God? You guys are outright hilarious. Answer the question as posted. Who created your God ? Maneno nyingi achia @ alphadoti No one.Nothing. @Symbols, could you be discriminating questions you wish to answer? What gives you that idea? Because I asked one and it hasn't been answered. Perhaps. When? I don't know. How? I don't know.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs.
Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God? You guys are outright hilarious. Answer the question as posted. Who created your God ? Maneno nyingi achia @ alphadoti No one.Nothing. @Symbols, could you be discriminating questions you wish to answer? What gives you that idea? Because I asked one and it hasn't been answered. Perhaps. When? I don't know. How? I don't know. Is it possible to know?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs.
Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God? You guys are outright hilarious. Answer the question as posted. Who created your God ? Maneno nyingi achia @ alphadoti No one.Nothing. Good. If no one simply means not created. Don't exist. work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs.
Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God? You guys are outright hilarious. Answer the question as posted. Who created your God ? Maneno nyingi achia @ alphadoti No one.Nothing. @Symbols, could you be discriminating questions you wish to answer? What gives you that idea? Because I asked one and it hasn't been answered. Perhaps. When? I don't know. How? I don't know. Is it possible to know? Yes.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs.
Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God? You guys are outright hilarious. Answer the question as posted. Who created your God ? Maneno nyingi achia @ alphadoti No one.Nothing. @Symbols, could you be discriminating questions you wish to answer? What gives you that idea? Because I asked one and it hasn't been answered. Perhaps. When? I don't know. How? I don't know. Is it possible to know? Yes. And how can such knowledge be acquired?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Tokyo wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs.
Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God? You guys are outright hilarious. Answer the question as posted. Who created your God ? Maneno nyingi achia @ alphadoti No one.Nothing. Good. If no one simply means not created. Don't exist. If no one created the act of creating then creation doesn't exist.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs.
Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God? You guys are outright hilarious. Answer the question as posted. Who created your God ? Maneno nyingi achia @ alphadoti No one.Nothing. @Symbols, could you be discriminating questions you wish to answer? What gives you that idea? Because I asked one and it hasn't been answered. Perhaps. When? I don't know. How? I don't know. Is it possible to know? Yes. And how can such knowledge be acquired? I don't have it.I can't tell you how to acquire it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs.
Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God? You guys are outright hilarious. Answer the question as posted. Who created your God ? Maneno nyingi achia @ alphadoti No one.Nothing. @Symbols, could you be discriminating questions you wish to answer? What gives you that idea? Because I asked one and it hasn't been answered. Perhaps. When? I don't know. How? I don't know. Is it possible to know? Yes. And how can such knowledge be acquired? I don't have it.I can't tell you how to acquire it. Then perhaps your response to @Tokyo should be 'I don't know'?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs.
Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God? You guys are outright hilarious. Answer the question as posted. Who created your God ? Maneno nyingi achia @ alphadoti No one.Nothing. @Symbols, could you be discriminating questions you wish to answer? What gives you that idea? Because I asked one and it hasn't been answered. Perhaps. When? I don't know. How? I don't know. Is it possible to know? Yes. And how can such knowledge be acquired? I don't have it.I can't tell you how to acquire it. Then perhaps your response to @Tokyo should be 'I don't know'? 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs.
Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God? You guys are outright hilarious. Answer the question as posted. Who created your God ? Maneno nyingi achia @ alphadoti No one.Nothing. @Symbols, could you be discriminating questions you wish to answer? What gives you that idea? Because I asked one and it hasn't been answered. Perhaps. When? I don't know. How? I don't know. Is it possible to know? Yes. And how can such knowledge be acquired? I don't have it.I can't tell you how to acquire it. Then perhaps your response to @Tokyo should be 'I don't know'? Good one @tycho. Very sober logic 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs.
Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God? You guys are outright hilarious. Answer the question as posted. Who created your God ? Maneno nyingi achia @ alphadoti No one.Nothing. @Symbols, could you be discriminating questions you wish to answer? What gives you that idea? Because I asked one and it hasn't been answered. Perhaps. When? I don't know. How? I don't know. Is it possible to know? Yes. And how can such knowledge be acquired? I don't have it.I can't tell you how to acquire it. Then perhaps your response to @Tokyo should be 'I don't know'? Good one @tycho. Very sober logic Hopefully you will realize you have insulted @tycho
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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symbols wrote:@AlphDoti - Instead of repeating your claims address the issues I've brought up.If you want my sources and how I arrived at the conclusions please ask. 1.Allah is not Yahweh.Islam is not the religion of Yahweh.See my previous post. 2.Quote the Bible on what you think isn't right for God to do or command and the man-made ideas so I can separate your opinions from scripture. 3.Christianity is based on the life,works,teachings,death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.Paul couldn't have started it and according to the Quran it is Allah who is to blame for the rise of Christianity. 4.Whether the word Trinity exists in the Bible or not is irrelevant.What it defines is present in the Bible.Apart from the quote below, see my previous posts. Proverbs 30:4 wrote:Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Who has gathered the wind in His hands? Who has bound up the waters in a cloak? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is the name of His Son-- if you know? 5. In the Old Testament Yahweh occurs 6,519 times. This name is used more than any other name of God. Yahweh is first used in Gen 2:4. It is not a concocted name. 6.Muhammad and Islam introduce a narrative that differs from the Bible and explicitly denies that Jesus is the Son of God.The prophets you are referring to are not the same prophets the Bible describes and Islam's approval of them is based on Muhammad's narrative. Going by the Bible,Islam is a different religion.You are yet to provide the Islamic sources for the scriptures you claim Islam approves of and why other books of the Bible are excluded from your list.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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symbols wrote:symbols wrote:@AlphDoti - Instead of repeating your claims address the issues I've brought up.If you want my sources and how I arrived at the conclusions please ask. 1.Allah is not Yahweh.Islam is not the religion of Yahweh.See my previous post. 2.Quote the Bible on what you think isn't right for God to do or command and the man-made ideas so I can separate your opinions from scripture. 3.Christianity is based on the life,works,teachings,death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.Paul couldn't have started it and according to the Quran it is Allah who is to blame for the rise of Christianity. 4.Whether the word Trinity exists in the Bible or not is irrelevant.What it defines is present in the Bible.Apart from the quote below, see my previous posts. Proverbs 30:4 wrote:Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Who has gathered the wind in His hands? Who has bound up the waters in a cloak? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is the name of His Son-- if you know? 5. In the Old Testament Yahweh occurs 6,519 times. This name is used more than any other name of God. Yahweh is first used in Gen 2:4. It is not a concocted name. 6.Muhammad and Islam introduce a narrative that differs from the Bible and explicitly denies that Jesus is the Son of God.The prophets you are referring to are not the same prophets the Bible describes and Islam's approval of them is based on Muhammad's narrative. Going by the Bible,Islam is a different religion.You are yet to provide the Islamic sources for the scriptures you claim Islam approves of and why other books of the Bible are excluded from your list. So who is repeating issues? Now you want us to repeat from herePlease @symbols, we have moved from that already. We picked issue number 5. So if you don't anything else to say there, we can move to another item in the list. Now, now me and you, we are here.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Veiled insults, or flattery, or honest opinion, will hopefully, not deter me from saying that we can know when and how humans became conscious of God, and or his absence, through a careful look at history, especially through art and ritual.
In my opinion God is a creation of Man and a great one at that. I believe that with time God will evolve into something more palatable for the challenges facing humanity now, just as he/she/it has evolved through the past.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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tycho wrote:Veiled insults, or flattery, or honest opinion, will hopefully, not deter me from saying that we can know when and how humans became conscious of God, and or his absence, through a careful look at history, especially through art and ritual.
In my opinion God is a creation of Man and a great one at that. I believe that with time God will evolve into something more palatable for the challenges facing humanity now, just as he/she/it has evolved through the past. If God is creation of Man , does it mean then we have different gods reflecting diversity and cultures of his "sheeps" work to prosper
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