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Reflections on Lee Kuan Yew
tycho
#1 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 8:47:46 AM
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Thoughts, insights, and criticism please, as Singapore and the world bids him farewell.
Muriel
#2 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 9:08:54 AM
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See ya at the resurrection!
Much Know
#3 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 9:54:11 AM
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His book "From Third World to First" offers interesting solutions to Africas problem. He is reportedly Paul Kagames' Mentor. In short it tells his story from being a 35 year old prime minister of Singapore in 1959, a self governing poor (poorer than Kenyans then) third world tiny island in Southeast Asia approximately 690sq kilometers (Karibu area ya Nairobi to Thika generating four times what Kenya generates today), formerly a British trading outpost, Lee Kuan Yew illustrates a journey that takes a multiracial, multilingual third world island nation besieged by a quest for survival to a thriving, modern developed nation with 15 fold GDP growth leap in 32 years!, offering it’s citizens one of the highest standards of living globally. In comparison with Kenya that gained independence about the same time, Singapore today with a population of only 3.5million has a GDP four times that of Kenya where a Singaporean’s globally fifth highest per capita income is almost forty times that of a Kenyan mwanainchi. Sometimes i wish Jomo Kenyatta had the guts to appoint Tom Mboya VP as has often been suggested, too bad the communist in Nyanza got him with a bullet. Kenya would have been at per or better than Singapore today.
Meru Holiness
MaichBlack
#4 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 10:03:08 AM
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@tycho - I can see you took post #35 on this thread seriously.

Now if you can only get @Sparkly to read it...
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mkeiy
#5 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 10:24:43 AM
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A people's dictator, how i wish we got one at the time Singapore got theirs.

How i wish we get one at some point.

To him i'll say R.I.P, something i hardly do.

One of Lee's abiding beliefs was in the efficacy of corporal punishment in the form of caning.[45] In his autobiography The Singapore Story he described his time at Raffles Institution in the 1930s, mentioning that he was caned there for chronic lateness by the then headmaster, D. W. McLeod. He wrote: "I bent over a chair and was given three of the best with my trousers on. I did not think he lightened his strokes. I have never understood why Western educationists are so much against corporal punishment. It did my fellow students and me no harm."[46]


kollabo
#6 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 11:23:07 AM
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Fare thee well icon of Leadership!
tycho
#7 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 12:18:54 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
@tycho - I can see you took post #35 on this thread seriously.

Now if you can only get @Sparkly to read it...


I heard and read of Mr. Yew sometime back, and I remember adopting the view points expressed by many of us here.

But then I have grown to change my mind about how to evaluate and judge leadership.

It's no easy matter to lead a body politic, and even to ensure stability and wealth. And for this Mr. Yew deserves respect.

Somehow, I have found myself in several leadership situations for as long as I can remember and, one thing I have learnt is one should be careful when emulating and borrowing ideas from other leaders and their contexts.

In this case I state simply that;

1. There's no guarantee that borrowed ideas will work in any context
2. It's easy to flatter a leader for selfish interests
3. How a nation begins and grows, economically and politically is a key factor when emulating

These are some of the caveats we should consider. There are many more that I can see, and in the end I see Mr. Yew as a leader who has something to emulate like resolution, understanding of balance of power, and a visionary who believed in the power of reason and innovation.



MaichBlack
#8 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 12:29:57 PM
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tycho wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
@tycho - I can see you took post #35 on this thread seriously.

Now if you can only get @Sparkly to read it...


I heard and read of Mr. Yew sometime back, and I remember adopting the view points expressed by many of us here.

But then I have grown to change my mind about how to evaluate and judge leadership.

It's no easy matter to lead a body politic, and even to ensure stability and wealth. And for this Mr. Yew deserves respect.

Somehow, I have found myself in several leadership situations for as long as I can remember and, one thing I have learnt is one should be careful when emulating and borrowing ideas from other leaders and their contexts.

In this case I state simply that;

1. There's no guarantee that borrowed ideas will work in any context
2. It's easy to flatter a leader for selfish interests
3. How a nation begins and grows, economically and politically is a key factor when emulating

These are some of the caveats we should consider. There are many more that I can see, and in the end I see Mr. Yew as a leader who has something to emulate like resolution, understanding of balance of power, and a visionary who believed in the power of reason and innovation.

And do you have or don't you have a problem with Paul Kagame?
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tycho
#9 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 12:43:05 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
tycho wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
@tycho - I can see you took post #35 on this thread seriously.

Now if you can only get @Sparkly to read it...


I heard and read of Mr. Yew sometime back, and I remember adopting the view points expressed by many of us here.

But then I have grown to change my mind about how to evaluate and judge leadership.

It's no easy matter to lead a body politic, and even to ensure stability and wealth. And for this Mr. Yew deserves respect.

Somehow, I have found myself in several leadership situations for as long as I can remember and, one thing I have learnt is one should be careful when emulating and borrowing ideas from other leaders and their contexts.

In this case I state simply that;

1. There's no guarantee that borrowed ideas will work in any context
2. It's easy to flatter a leader for selfish interests
3. How a nation begins and grows, economically and politically is a key factor when emulating

These are some of the caveats we should consider. There are many more that I can see, and in the end I see Mr. Yew as a leader who has something to emulate like resolution, understanding of balance of power, and a visionary who believed in the power of reason and innovation.

And do you have or don't you have a problem with Paul Kagame?


Maich, even on the other thread you'll realize that I have nothing against Kagame. Because I know it's not about being for, or against a person. It's about learning and making choices in our own areas of leadership and being.
tycho
#10 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 2:16:00 PM
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The demographics and economic trends in Singapore, leave a lot to be desired. The trend is like the state favors foreign interests more than the native interests.

http://thehearttruths.co...-in-2002-to-28-in-2013/

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26349689

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore
muganda
#11 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2015 5:55:08 PM
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Quote:
"If nobody is afraid of me, I'm meaningless."

“Here we make the model multiracial society. This is not a country that belongs to any single community - it belongs to all of us. This was a mudflat, a swamp. Today, it is a modern city. And 10 years from now, it will be a metropolis – never fear!”

“I want to make sure every button works, and if it doesn’t when I happen to be around, then somebody is going to be in for a rough time, because I do not want sloppiness.”

“In other words, growth is meaningless unless it is shared by the workers, shared not directly in wage increases, but indirectly in better homes, better schools, better hospitals, better playing fields, a healthier environment for their families, and for their children to grow up.”

“You begin your journey not knowing where it will take you. You have plans, you have dreams, but every now and again you have to take uncharted roads, face impassable mountains, cross treacherous rivers, be blocked by landslides and earthquakes. That’s the way my life has been.”
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