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Future of Safaricom - break up due to dominance!
jerry
#21 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2015 7:37:11 PM
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KondooEconomist wrote:
I'm confused, are they rolling out a network infrastructure à la Bamba, ADN?

What's Bamba and what's it's coverage?
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Rankaz13
#22 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2015 8:12:47 PM
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GGK wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:
Na hii EPL inasumbua watu sana eh? For the longest time I've always told those who want a cheaper alternative to the dstvs of this world to get themselves beIN sports subscription. Just two months dstv sub is sufficient to pay for a full year of beIN subs. Nini ingine mnataka?


Hii beIN napatikana wapi?
If they get pay-per-view (PPV) or video-on-demand for LIVE events, we are good to go.
Am seeing Kenya going places in TV broadcast

The original question on dominance.... being dominant is no crime. Issues arise when the dominant player uses his dominance to annihilate the competition


http://www.en.beinsports.net/
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iris
#23 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2015 8:45:30 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
bkismat wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
bird_man wrote:
Little birdie says THE BOX to be launched next week.
Android setup box,can record,can broadcast wifi,net from sim card,can receive kawaida FTA channels...friendly prices.


I cant wait. this shafting by DSTV and Internet companies has gone on long enough. Fingers crossed it has EPL

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly EPL??


Na hii EPL inasumbua watu sana eh? For the longest time I've always told those who want a cheaper alternative to the dstvs of this world to get themselves beIN sports subscription. Just two months dstv sub is sufficient to pay for a full year of beIN subs. Nini ingine mnataka?

Yes for only 1,250 per month you will watch all the sports you want EPL f1 moto gp cricket ..... The only downside is some of the commentary is in Arabic

Whats the value proposition of a safcom settop box to me? I already have Zuku triple play with a wifi router and I get 10mb.
I however hope the safcom TV reception will not be subject to the weather like dstv-what happened to their project of running cables to homes instead of satellite?
But I honestly think safcom diversification/dominance needs to be checked. Otherwise their CEO will be more powerful than pork.


I would really like to understand why we Kenyans are so uncomfortable with success. Safaricom comes in at only 26th largest company in Africa and yet Matiang'i, @Gordon Gekko, etc, are busy raising an outcry for growth to be checked. We must only be one of a very few nations that want to pull their stars down to mediocrity, instead of cheering them to greater success. We should challenge those complaining to become more innovative and also grow so that we have many large companies instead. I recall feeling somewhat unhappy when Africa Online got sold and since then, we have many ISPs here but none of the dominant ones are Kenyan. We also complain a lot when SA companies mistreat us but we are content to let them dominate while at the same time attempting to keep ours down.
People, let's encourage our big companies to grow bigger.

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Gordon Gekko
#24 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2015 10:30:31 PM
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@iris, I have no grudge against success. I have a major problem with monopolistic control over critical sectors, worse, control over several critical sectors. If safcom, which today can shut down Kenya's financial sector takes control of the security sector (which it will at the conclusion of the cops project), we will have sold ourselves to vodacom.
There's a reason why we have a competition authority in Kenya, there's a reason why Bell Telephones in the US was broken up, there's a reason why there are active plans to breakup Google. There's also a reason why any political leader ensures that he fully controls the financial, information and security arms of government.
1masha
#25 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2015 4:46:52 PM
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Rankaz13 wrote:
GGK wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:
Na hii EPL inasumbua watu sana eh? For the longest time I've always told those who want a cheaper alternative to the dstvs of this world to get themselves beIN sports subscription. Just two months dstv sub is sufficient to pay for a full year of beIN subs. Nini ingine mnataka?


Hii beIN napatikana wapi?
If they get pay-per-view (PPV) or video-on-demand for LIVE events, we are good to go.
Am seeing Kenya going places in TV broadcast

The original question on dominance.... being dominant is no crime. Issues arise when the dominant player uses his dominance to annihilate the competition


http://www.en.beinsports.net/


BeIN inapatikana hapa na imeelezewa hapa pengine
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GGK
#26 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2015 7:16:06 PM
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Sawa, wacha I get a few coins and I will be beINed
Thanks for info
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mazingira
#27 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 10:41:45 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
@iris, I have no grudge against success. I have a major problem with monopolistic control over critical sectors, worse, control over several critical sectors. If safcom, which today can shut down Kenya's financial sector takes control of the security sector (which it will at the conclusion of the cops project), we will have sold ourselves to vodacom.
There's a reason why we have a competition authority in Kenya, there's a reason why Bell Telephones in the US was broken up, there's a reason why there are active plans to breakup Google. There's also a reason why any political leader ensures that he fully controls the financial, information and security arms of government.


What about government monoploies like KPLC fleecing the public at least safcom is run well KPLC service sucks and we pay silly money to kplc
murchr
#28 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2015 6:58:52 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
@iris, I have no grudge against success. I have a major problem with monopolistic control over critical sectors, worse, control over several critical sectors. If safcom, which today can shut down Kenya's financial sector takes control of the security sector (which it will at the conclusion of the cops project), we will have sold ourselves to vodacom.
There's a reason why we have a competition authority in Kenya, there's a reason why Bell Telephones in the US was broken up, there's a reason why there are active plans to breakup Google. There's also a reason why any political leader ensures that he fully controls the financial, information and security arms of government.


Safaricom is nowhere near what Bell systems was...eish! Google will not be broken, not in today's corporate World. More and more companies are consolidating SABMiller, the world’s second-largest brewer, is being taken over by its bigger rival, AB InBev if the merger is completed, half the profits of the worlds beer market will be held by this company.

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#29 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2015 7:04:49 PM
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Reuters wrote:
Safaricom dominates the Kenyan mobile market, sweeping up more than 90 per cent of revenues in areas such as voice calls and text messaging, according to regulator data that could further fuel a debate about competition in the industry.

Rivals like Bharti Airtel and some officials have complained that Safaricom's dominance stifles competition. France's Orange is seeking to sell its Kenya operation, becoming the second international operator to quit the country after India's Essar Telecoms sold its Yu business last year.

The data obtained by Reuters comes as the East African nation is amending the telecom sector's competition law to give the regulator more powers to penalise companies deemed to be abusing dominant positions in the industry, though what would constitute such abuse is as yet unclear.

Safaricom, in which Britain's Vodafone has a 40-per cent stake, has dismissed accusations it hampers competition, saying it does not abuse its dominance.

Safaricom's revenues from calls amounted to a 91.63 per cent market share in 2014, while its closest competitor, Airtel, had 8.33 per cent, according to the data obtained from the Communications Authority of Kenya (CAK).

In text or short messaging services, Safaricom had more than a 90-per cent share of total market revenues from that segment, the regulator said.

In mobile data, or internet services, Safaricom's revenues were 85.50 per cent of the market share in 2014, while Airtel had 14.43 per cent, Orange had 0.01 per cent and Equitel, operated by Equity Bank's subsidiary Finserve, 0.06 per cent.

The figures for Orange are for 2013 as it had not submitted audited accounts for 2014 to the regulator, CAK said.

The regulator usually issues quarterly figures for number of subscribers, which give Safaricom a 67 per cent share of Kenya's 35 million users in June. It also gives traffic volumes for areas such as calls.

Asked about the regulator's revenue breakdown, Safaricom Chief Executive Bob Collymore told Reuters: "We don't recognise that data." He said subscriber numbers and network traffic were a better gauge of how the firm was performing.

M-Pesa

The data did not detail revenue from phone financial services, where Safaricom's M-Pesa service is the most popular offering, allowing users to pay bills or send money even using the most simple mobile phone device.

Analysts say this service draws customers to use Safaricom's wider telecoms services over its rivals.

Eric Musau, analyst at Standard Investment Bank, said the dominance of a single operator was hurting competition by driving out rivals like Essar and Orange.

He said, however, that some smaller operators were failing due to inadequate capital, frequent shareholding changes and a lack of a sound strategy for the local market. "I would say one player had a better strategy than the rest," he added.

CAK said in August that it was amending the telecom sector's competition law, but said it was not targeting Safaricom or any other company. It did not aim to penalise any company just for being dominant, but only if there was abuse of its position in the market.

The regulator's head, Francis Wangusi, said at the time the new regulations would break down the telecoms sectors into segments including mobile and fixed voice, data, text messaging and mobile money transfer services.

"It is too early for us to come up to say 'Safaricom you are dominant', because Safaricom can be dominant in certain markets, but not dominant in others," he said. "In all these markets, we would not apply the same rules," he added.

Safaricom has opposed the proposed changes saying they could deter investments by targeting large firms.

Airtel Kenya CEO Adil El Youseffi said the current market situation was limiting innovation and consumer choice and driving operators out of the country. "The sector is unable to attract new or incremental investments from other international players," he told Reuters.

Orange Kenya gave no specific comment on the figures.


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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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VituVingiSana
#30 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2015 7:45:11 PM
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I don't like monopolies but Airtel is disingenuous.

While crying about Safaricom, Airtel charges incoming termination fees of 20/- per minute while Safaricom charges 10/-. This is the same Airtel that wants Safcom to lower their (local) call termination charges.

Airtel (in markets which it dominates) is pushing for laws repealing Net Neutrality so they can throttle services like WhatsApp & FaceTime.

Safaricom should not abuse its dominance to make supernormal profits [Safaricom has done just that] and needs competition but I do not think Airtel or Orange are the ones to break their dominance.

M-Pesa: Safaricom pushed Vodafone for this service/tech. And have benefitted from it. As they should. They took the risk. If Kenyans like M-Pesa over other alternatives, so be it. What I do not like is Safaricom trying to throttle competitors eg Airtel by using monopolistic & legal means eg the fights against ThinSIMs and the huge increase in bank to Safaricom charges to counter Equitel.

I want all the firms to compete on a fair footing without favor from the authorities. The beneficiaries will be Kenyans if the fight is fair. Not all firms will win but Kenyans will win.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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