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What is the psychology behind your post?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:@AlphDoti - Unless you are questioning the authenticity of the information provided in the links,I believe I have provided you with the information you have requested.
Where is the proof of your claims? What have I claimed @symbol, I'm not discussing authenticity of Internet sites, let leave that to experts in that area. I didn't ask you for Internet links. Everybody can give links, and wazua would be site of links. So back your issue no.5: you said Yahweh appears thousands in the Bible. Enlighten me, where the Bible says the name of God is YAHWEH. Where is the proof of your claims? Post 64 AlphDoti wrote: Also, God never revealed the name Yahweh as his name! It is the same human beings who concocted the name!!
Exodus 6:3 wrote:And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. from KingJamesBibleOnline Now you're talking. But, the reference you've given Exodus 6:3 in my KJV 1952, YAHWEH does not appear. See the following picture I took of the page, it says "...but by my name the LORD..." 1 John 2:22 wrote:Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. What does yours say? What does mine say? You want to digress? Umeshindwa na Exodus 6:3? Umeshindwa na Gen 2:4? The question is: is Jehova a name that God revealed for Himself to man or is it a name given by man to God? Or is yahwe or yhwh a name revealed by God or is it a name given by man to God? This is what I'm asking you. For example: I can ask you: what is your name? And you say: Symbols. So I say we will just call you babu, for example. Whether you like this name or not we just call you babu. So why did i ask you your name in the first place if it did not matter to me what your name was. I was going to " baptize" you anyway. My conclusion: neither JEHOVAH nor YAHWE nor YHWH was a name revealed by God to man. These were names given by man to God.In the Qur'an, God tells us he had revealed His Name to Musa: ALLAH. And this name was known since the time of Adam and always through all other prophets. Out of complete arrogance and indifference, the writers of the Bible changed this name to LORD, YHWH, YAHWE and then JEHOVAH
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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YHWH is the name of the Lord that He revealed. The explanations for Yahweh,Jehovah,Lord God e.t.c are here. The Quran can claim anything it wants just like you can claim anything you want. Provide the evidence for your claims like I have.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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symbols wrote:YHWH is the name of the Lord that He revealed. The explanations for Yahweh,Jehovah,Lord God e.t.c are here. The Quran can claim anything it wants just like you can claim anything you want. Provide the evidence for your claims like I have. Since non of the references you've provided does not say God said his name is YAHWEH, let me give you evidence why this name was given by man to God. Did you know that Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD? Jehova comes from GREEK. And surely Musa and the Israelis did not speak Greek. You are swallowing a biblical lie hook line and sinker. I wish you would just open your eyes and reflect on these issues.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:YHWH is the name of the Lord that He revealed. The explanations for Yahweh,Jehovah,Lord God e.t.c are here. The Quran can claim anything it wants just like you can claim anything you want. Provide the evidence for your claims like I have. Since non of the references you've provided does not say God said his name is YAHWEH, let me give you evidence why this name was given by man to God. Did you know that Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD? Jehova comes from GREEK. And surely Musa and the Israelis did not speak Greek. You are swallowing a biblical lie hook line and sinker. I wish you would just open your eyes and reflect on these issues. Why are we having this discussion in English? Stop digressing and grasping at straws. Provide the evidence for your claims.Allah is not Yahweh.Islam is not the religion of Yahweh!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:YHWH is the name of the Lord that He revealed. The explanations for Yahweh,Jehovah,Lord God e.t.c are here. The Quran can claim anything it wants just like you can claim anything you want. Provide the evidence for your claims like I have. Since non of the references you've provided does not say God said his name is YAHWEH, let me give you evidence why this name was given by man to God. Did you know that Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD? Jehova comes from GREEK. And surely Musa and the Israelis did not speak Greek. You are swallowing a biblical lie hook line and sinker. I wish you would just open your eyes and reflect on these issues. Why are we having this discussion in English? Stop digressing and grasping at straws. Provide the evidence for your claims.Allah is not Yahweh.Islam is not the religion of Yahweh! What language do you want to have this discussion in? Don't you understand English? These are the facts, you cannot dispute these: 1. Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD 2. Jehova comes from GREEK 3. Musa, Jesus and all the Israelis did not speak Greek The truth is the Name was and is ALLAH. Whether in Hebrew, Arabic, English or Greek the name remains the same: ALLAH. It is the Bible writers, who introduced descriptions instead of the name: ALLAH so that their followers may not know the truth.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:YHWH is the name of the Lord that He revealed. The explanations for Yahweh,Jehovah,Lord God e.t.c are here. The Quran can claim anything it wants just like you can claim anything you want. Provide the evidence for your claims like I have. Since non of the references you've provided does not say God said his name is YAHWEH, let me give you evidence why this name was given by man to God. Did you know that Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD? Jehova comes from GREEK. And surely Musa and the Israelis did not speak Greek. You are swallowing a biblical lie hook line and sinker. I wish you would just open your eyes and reflect on these issues. Why are we having this discussion in English? Stop digressing and grasping at straws. Provide the evidence for your claims.Allah is not Yahweh.Islam is not the religion of Yahweh! What language do you want to have this discussion in? Don't you understand English? These are the facts, you cannot dispute these: 1. Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD 2. Jehova comes from GREEK 3. Musa, Jesus and all the Israelis did not speak Greek The truth is the Name was and is ALLAH. Whether in Hebrew, Arabic, English or Greek the name remains the same: ALLAH. It is the Bible writers, who introduced descriptions instead of the name: ALLAH so that their followers may not know the truth. Am I disputing those facts? 1.Allah is not a HEBREW WORD. 2.Jesus is not a HEBREW WORD. What truth? Allah is an Arabic word just like YHWH is a Hebrew word. More baseless claims.Prove Allah is Yahweh!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:YHWH is the name of the Lord that He revealed. The explanations for Yahweh,Jehovah,Lord God e.t.c are here. The Quran can claim anything it wants just like you can claim anything you want. Provide the evidence for your claims like I have. Since non of the references you've provided does not say God said his name is YAHWEH, let me give you evidence why this name was given by man to God. Did you know that Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD? Jehova comes from GREEK. And surely Musa and the Israelis did not speak Greek. You are swallowing a biblical lie hook line and sinker. I wish you would just open your eyes and reflect on these issues. Why are we having this discussion in English? Stop digressing and grasping at straws. Provide the evidence for your claims.Allah is not Yahweh.Islam is not the religion of Yahweh! What language do you want to have this discussion in? Don't you understand English? These are the facts, you cannot dispute these: 1. Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD 2. Jehova comes from GREEK 3. Musa, Jesus and all the Israelis did not speak Greek The truth is the Name was and is ALLAH. Whether in Hebrew, Arabic, English or Greek the name remains the same: ALLAH. It is the Bible writers, who introduced descriptions instead of the name: ALLAH so that their followers may not know the truth. Am I disputing those facts? 1.Allah is not a HEBREW WORD. 2.Jesus is not a HEBREW WORD. What truth? Allah is an Arabic word just like YHWH is a Hebrew word. More baseless claims.Prove Allah is Yahweh! Thank you for not disputing the facts. The people reading in Wazua are not foolish. They understand and can see. Now, as far as Bible is concerned, the writer, the compilers are not known. So how can we be sure where the info contained therein came from? There is no gospel of Jesus. There is no gospel of his disciples of Jesus. There is just a group of unidentified people who put words together and the readers like you claim these are the words of God. Have you noticed that none of the books says it is revelation or inspiration from God? None of the books begins with "In the Name of God"? So who wrote the books? Or who put them together? Who chose which gospel should be included and which should be rejected???? Endless questions whose reply can only be: may be or may be not!! The Quran on the other hand identifies itself in the beginning. It says: " This is the Book in which there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are humble and who seek the truth, who believe in the unseen and perform prayer and spend out of that We have given them."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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@AlphDoti - You are either incapable or unwilling to provide any evidence as you continue churning out more baseless claims!
Do you think the people reading Wazua are foolish enough to not notice that?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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symbols wrote:@AlphDoti - You are either incapable or unwilling to provide any evidence as you continue churning out more baseless claims!
Do you think the people reading Wazua are foolish enough to not notice that? What baseless thing have i churned? Isn't you who churned out about 6 items? I'm only handling one of of them: your claim that YAHWEH is name of God. And I've humbly asked you to show us where God said my name is YahWeh. All you could do is churn out a link. I'm telling you, the name YAHWEH was coined by men. Musa, Jesus and all other prophets never used that name to refer to God. Even you yourself accepted just now that YAHWEH/Jehovah came from Greek, and none of the prophets of God spoke Greek!! Now show me how that is baseless claim!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:What is the psychology behind your post? The psychology of an investigator seeking to understand and optimize his soul.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Why aren't Socrates or Plato or Aristotle prophets of God? And they spoke Greek!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:@AlphDoti - You are either incapable or unwilling to provide any evidence as you continue churning out more baseless claims!
Do you think the people reading Wazua are foolish enough to not notice that? What baseless thing have i churned? Isn't you who churned out about 6 items? I'm only handling one of of them: your claim that YAHWEH is name of God. And I've humbly asked you to show us where God said my name is YahWeh. All you could do is churn out a link. I'm telling you, the name YAHWEH was coined by men. Musa, Jesus and all other prophets never used that name to refer to God. Even you yourself accepted just now that YAHWEH/Jehovah came from Greek, and none of the prophets of God spoke Greek!! Now show me how that is baseless claim! Quote me and my claims.Don't put words in my 'mouth'. The same way you are utilizing the names Musa and Jesus is the same way I'm proving your claims wrong.If that is the base of your argument,then you have also proved Allah is not Yahweh because Allah is an Arabic word and not a Hebrew word. Post 64AlphDoti wrote:Also, God never revealed the name Yahweh as his name! It is the same human beings who concocted the name!! Exodus 6:3 wrote:And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. from KingJamesBibleOnline 1. Question: "What do LORD, GOD, Lord, God, etc., stand for in the Bible? Why are they used in place of God's name?"2. In the Old Testament Yahweh occurs 6,519 times. This name is used more than any other name of God. Yahweh is first used in Gen 2:4. It is not a concocted name. The word you used to describe what you are doing is coward.Where is the evidence for the numerous claims you are making in your posts?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:@AlphDoti - You are either incapable or unwilling to provide any evidence as you continue churning out more baseless claims!
Do you think the people reading Wazua are foolish enough to not notice that? What baseless thing have i churned? Isn't you who churned out about 6 items? I'm only handling one of of them: your claim that YAHWEH is name of God. And I've humbly asked you to show us where God said my name is YahWeh. All you could do is churn out a link. I'm telling you, the name YAHWEH was coined by men. Musa, Jesus and all other prophets never used that name to refer to God. Even you yourself accepted just now that YAHWEH/Jehovah came from Greek, and none of the prophets of God spoke Greek!! Now show me how that is baseless claim! Quote me and my claims.Don't put words in my 'mouth'. The same way you are utilizing the names Musa and Jesus is the same way I'm proving your claims wrong.If that is the base of your argument,then you have also proved Allah is not Yahweh because Allah is an Arabic word and not a Hebrew word. Post 64AlphDoti wrote:Also, God never revealed the name Yahweh as his name! It is the same human beings who concocted the name!! Exodus 6:3 wrote:And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. from KingJamesBibleOnline 1. Question: "What do LORD, GOD, Lord, God, etc., stand for in the Bible? Why are they used in place of God's name?"2. In the Old Testament Yahweh occurs 6,519 times. This name is used more than any other name of God. Yahweh is first used in Gen 2:4. It is not a concocted name. The word you used to describe what you are doing is coward.Where is the evidence for the numerous claims you are making in your posts? @symbol, in your post #87, you said you're NOT disputing the facts below: 1. Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD 2. Jehova comes from GREEK 3. Musa, Jesus and all the Israelis did not speak Greek So I told you whether in Hebrew, Arabic, English or Greek the name remains the same. Then I told you it is the Bible writers, who introduced descriptions YAHWEH instead of the true name so that their followers may not know the truth. So as you can see there was no such name as YAHWEH or JEHOVAH in HEBREW, or ARAMAIC the language of Jesus, you realize that the Bible scholars have put their own things in the Bible. In fact, Jeremiah 8:8 Says bible has become " lies from the pen of the scribes has made it into falsehood". Also I just told you that no chapter, no book in the bible starts with: in the name of God. How then would you expect us to believe that YAHWEH is name of God? Just think about this. Moses is the name of Moses when he was alive. Jesus is the name of Messiah which is his original title in Hebrew/Aramaic/Arabic. But with the same sickness of translating names, they translated to Christos in Greek, then later to Christ in English. But YHWH was coined in Greek. It is not a name revealed by God to man. It is a name man gave to God.
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@AlphDoti - I've shown you the name God revealed.It is a Hebrew word.For example,Yeshua is a Hebrew name.In English it is Joshua and if it is translated from Greek to English it is Jesus.How is it you can accept one and deny the other?
You are selectively quoting Jeremiah to prove your point.Going by your logic,then Jeremiah is also false and your argument is built on falsehoods.
Prove the name that I have provided isn't the name God revealed as you attempt to prove that Allah is the name God revealed.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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symbols wrote:@AlphDoti - I've shown you the name God revealed.It is a Hebrew word.For example,Yeshua is a Hebrew name.In English it is Joshua and if it is translated from Greek to English it is Jesus.How is it you can accept one and deny the other?
You are selectively quoting Jeremiah to prove your point.Going by your logic,then Jeremiah is also false and your argument is built on falsehoods.
Prove the name that I have provided isn't the name God revealed as you attempt to prove that Allah is the name God revealed. As regards changes of names from one language to another. Does your name change from one language to another? So why should the name of ALLAH or even Jesus for that matter change? Names do not change from one language to another. Only descriptions do. Like Lord into Bwana and so on. But names do not change. When you travel to China, you will be called Symbols, and you will access Wazua not "Yazua". "Toyota" is the NAME of a car in Japanese. Can you give me the swahili or english version of "TOYOTA"? If the name of a simple man made creation does not change from one language to another, why should the name of the ULTIMATE CREATOR change from one language to another? So what would Kamau be in swahili? Or in english? It is completely uncommon for names to change from one language to another except where Bible is concerned. Bible is the only exception!! Does that ring a bell? It simply means that they have sinister motives in doing so. Another example, Mr smith. What would you call him in swahili? Smithi?
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Give us the name of God in Hebrew preferably from the Islamic approved scriptures you mentioned. Allah is Arabic.Muhammad and the Quran have sinister motives.
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Interesting stuffs. Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs. Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuffs. Where did God/ Yahweh/Lord /Allah etc come from. ?? Who created him ?? If God created creation,how can God be created? When and how did humankind first realize or recognize God?
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