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Until our attitudes and displine remain the same, traffic jams will get worse regardless of what work to prosper
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Impunity wrote:Swenani wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:Impunity wrote:Another thing they should urgently do is to create sufficient and wide bus stops so that ma3 and other psvs will not stop right in the middle of the road to pick passengers thus causing traffic snarl up.
Then they can arrest and charge those vehicles stopping right in the middle of the road to pick pax,also those pax who boards psv at non designated stops must be arrested and charged.
Ditto!! Anybody used Juja road recently? The intended bus stops on this rate are so woefully insufficient that most can hardly accomodate three 14-seater matatus, forget the large minibuses. This is incorrect. There is a MASSIVE bus/ma3 park in Westlands with ample space to accommodate upto 50 matatus. However, they all stop on the road, causing a massive bottleneck at the entry to Waiyaki Way. The only time that part of the road is clear and moving normally is when cops are at the bus park, and matatus enter the park to pick/drop passengers. Matatus cause 50% of Nairobi's traffic, that cannot be denied. Passengers cause 100% of Nairobi's traffic jam,I have seen themwaiting for Matatus just outside cooperative house instead of going to the Bus station or railwasy bus station,Matatus stop on the road because that's where the passengers are. If ma3 stop only at bus stations/stops then pax will have no option but to follow suit. If passengers went to the bus stops, the Ma3 won't have anyone to pick on the roads and will have no option but to go to the bus stops If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Swenani wrote:Impunity wrote:Swenani wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:Impunity wrote:Another thing they should urgently do is to create sufficient and wide bus stops so that ma3 and other psvs will not stop right in the middle of the road to pick passengers thus causing traffic snarl up.
Then they can arrest and charge those vehicles stopping right in the middle of the road to pick pax,also those pax who boards psv at non designated stops must be arrested and charged.
Ditto!! Anybody used Juja road recently? The intended bus stops on this rate are so woefully insufficient that most can hardly accomodate three 14-seater matatus, forget the large minibuses. This is incorrect. There is a MASSIVE bus/ma3 park in Westlands with ample space to accommodate upto 50 matatus. However, they all stop on the road, causing a massive bottleneck at the entry to Waiyaki Way. The only time that part of the road is clear and moving normally is when cops are at the bus park, and matatus enter the park to pick/drop passengers. Matatus cause 50% of Nairobi's traffic, that cannot be denied. Passengers cause 100% of Nairobi's traffic jam,I have seen themwaiting for Matatus just outside cooperative house instead of going to the Bus station or railwasy bus station,Matatus stop on the road because that's where the passengers are. If ma3 stop only at bus stations/stops then pax will have no option but to follow suit. If passengers went to the bus stops, the Ma3 won't have anyone to pick on the roads and will have no option but to go to the bus stops Same thing, different brains. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Impunity wrote:Swenani wrote:Impunity wrote:Swenani wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:Impunity wrote:Another thing they should urgently do is to create sufficient and wide bus stops so that ma3 and other psvs will not stop right in the middle of the road to pick passengers thus causing traffic snarl up.
Then they can arrest and charge those vehicles stopping right in the middle of the road to pick pax,also those pax who boards psv at non designated stops must be arrested and charged.
Ditto!! Anybody used Juja road recently? The intended bus stops on this rate are so woefully insufficient that most can hardly accomodate three 14-seater matatus, forget the large minibuses. This is incorrect. There is a MASSIVE bus/ma3 park in Westlands with ample space to accommodate upto 50 matatus. However, they all stop on the road, causing a massive bottleneck at the entry to Waiyaki Way. The only time that part of the road is clear and moving normally is when cops are at the bus park, and matatus enter the park to pick/drop passengers. Matatus cause 50% of Nairobi's traffic, that cannot be denied. Passengers cause 100% of Nairobi's traffic jam,I have seen themwaiting for Matatus just outside cooperative house instead of going to the Bus station or railwasy bus station,Matatus stop on the road because that's where the passengers are. If ma3 stop only at bus stations/stops then pax will have no option but to follow suit. If passengers went to the bus stops, the Ma3 won't have anyone to pick on the roads and will have no option but to go to the bus stops Same thing, different brains. Who is easier to police, matatus or passengers? Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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KulaRaha wrote:Impunity wrote:Swenani wrote:Impunity wrote:Swenani wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:Impunity wrote:Another thing they should urgently do is to create sufficient and wide bus stops so that ma3 and other psvs will not stop right in the middle of the road to pick passengers thus causing traffic snarl up.
Then they can arrest and charge those vehicles stopping right in the middle of the road to pick pax,also those pax who boards psv at non designated stops must be arrested and charged.
Ditto!! Anybody used Juja road recently? The intended bus stops on this rate are so woefully insufficient that most can hardly accomodate three 14-seater matatus, forget the large minibuses. This is incorrect. There is a MASSIVE bus/ma3 park in Westlands with ample space to accommodate upto 50 matatus. However, they all stop on the road, causing a massive bottleneck at the entry to Waiyaki Way. The only time that part of the road is clear and moving normally is when cops are at the bus park, and matatus enter the park to pick/drop passengers. Matatus cause 50% of Nairobi's traffic, that cannot be denied. Passengers cause 100% of Nairobi's traffic jam,I have seen themwaiting for Matatus just outside cooperative house instead of going to the Bus station or railwasy bus station,Matatus stop on the road because that's where the passengers are. If ma3 stop only at bus stations/stops then pax will have no option but to follow suit. If passengers went to the bus stops, the Ma3 won't have anyone to pick on the roads and will have no option but to go to the bus stops Same thing, different brains. Who is easier to police, matatus or passengers? Ma3. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Like I say, if the traffic cops don't reform soon there will be big trouble on the roads and it will become unsustainable. If you note, ever since the press conference about removing roundabouts etc, suddenly cops have become a little more efficient. perhaps they are realizing the gravy train will stop if they allow too much mayhem? Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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KulaRaha wrote:Impunity wrote:Swenani wrote:Impunity wrote:Swenani wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:Impunity wrote:Another thing they should urgently do is to create sufficient and wide bus stops so that ma3 and other psvs will not stop right in the middle of the road to pick passengers thus causing traffic snarl up.
Then they can arrest and charge those vehicles stopping right in the middle of the road to pick pax,also those pax who boards psv at non designated stops must be arrested and charged.
Ditto!! Anybody used Juja road recently? The intended bus stops on this rate are so woefully insufficient that most can hardly accomodate three 14-seater matatus, forget the large minibuses. This is incorrect. There is a MASSIVE bus/ma3 park in Westlands with ample space to accommodate upto 50 matatus. However, they all stop on the road, causing a massive bottleneck at the entry to Waiyaki Way. The only time that part of the road is clear and moving normally is when cops are at the bus park, and matatus enter the park to pick/drop passengers. Matatus cause 50% of Nairobi's traffic, that cannot be denied. Passengers cause 100% of Nairobi's traffic jam,I have seen themwaiting for Matatus just outside cooperative house instead of going to the Bus station or railwasy bus station,Matatus stop on the road because that's where the passengers are. If ma3 stop only at bus stations/stops then pax will have no option but to follow suit. If passengers went to the bus stops, the Ma3 won't have anyone to pick on the roads and will have no option but to go to the bus stops Same thing, different brains. Who is easier to police, matatus or passengers? All If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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KulaRaha wrote:Like I say, if the traffic cops don't reform soon there will be big trouble on the roads and it will become unsustainable.
If you note, ever since the press conference about removing roundabouts etc, suddenly cops have become a little more efficient. perhaps they are realizing the gravy train will stop if they allow too much mayhem? Cops would be needed more at intersections, if at all the round about were to be gotten rid of.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Meanwhile Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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I thought Kempinski iko Westie, did he walk all that distance? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/26/2008 Posts: 2,097
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Impunity wrote:I thought Kempinski iko Westie, did he walk all that distance? Kidero is running away from the problem he shopuld be solving. He should try walking to Ngara "Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Tebes wrote:Impunity wrote:I thought Kempinski iko Westie, did he walk all that distance? Kidero is running away from the problem he shopuld be solving. He should try walking to Ngara He is telling us to walk in traffic. Afadhali @waititu. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Impunity wrote:I thought Kempinski iko Westie, did he walk all that distance? There are no walking pathway from CBD to Kempsinski,ama he walked in the middle of the road? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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methinks he was checking out tu vacant plots  ripe for development apelekee @mamangilu reports "😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Why do we need BRT and LRT when it will never be materialised? Why not invest in high capacity buses like Addis?   These buses in Addis charge less than KES.20 for a distance of less than 5 Kms whilein Nairobi, you will be ripped not lessthan KES 50 for the same distance If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Meanwhile  If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:Why do we need BRT and LRT when it will never be materialised? Why not invest in high capacity buses like Addis? These buses in Addis charge less than KES.20 for a distance of less than 5 Kms whilein Nairobi, you will be ripped not lessthan KES 50 for the same distance Matatu cartels will NEVER allow that!!! Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Swenani wrote:Why do we need BRT and LRT when it will never be materialised? Why not invest in high capacity buses like Addis? These buses in Addis charge less than KES.20 for a distance of less than 5 Kms whilein Nairobi, you will be ripped not lessthan KES 50 for the same distance I only see these types of buses while mayuu, u mean ziko hapa Addis? Haki Kenya tuko below C-level. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Othelo wrote:Swenani wrote:Why do we need BRT and LRT when it will never be materialised? Why not invest in high capacity buses like Addis? These buses in Addis charge less than KES.20 for a distance of less than 5 Kms whilein Nairobi, you will be ripped not lessthan KES 50 for the same distance Matatu cartels will NEVER allow that!!! @Rankaz and @matatuman This thread should be usered to avoid the growth of the cartels If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/11/2013 Posts: 63
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Othelo wrote:Swenani wrote:Why do we need BRT and LRT when it will never be materialised? Why not invest in high capacity buses like Addis? These buses in Addis charge less than KES.20 for a distance of less than 5 Kms whilein Nairobi, you will be ripped not lessthan KES 50 for the same distance Matatu cartels will NEVER allow that!!! matatu cartels are now toothless. We should now fear greedy businessmen who want to make a kill in the road sector...what made kidero cancel a tender to supply buses last year? By the way, how long will it take for such a buss to fill up, assuming it is heading to Jamuhuri estate?
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