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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
maru101
#1341 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2015 8:12:18 AM
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777s maybe but pilots....no, in fact there are more in training
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Jitahidi
#1342 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2015 8:51:41 AM
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maru101 wrote:
777s maybe but pilots....no, in fact there are more in training

Why train more pilots when you are getting rid of the fleet?
maka
#1343 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:36:18 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this?


There is somewhere on this thread I talked about this...yes it's true.
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Kastone
#1344 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:41:41 AM
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Jitahidi wrote:
maru101 wrote:
777s maybe but pilots....no, in fact there are more in training

Why train more pilots when you are getting rid of the fleet?


They're replacing old fleets with the new one's thus the need as they need more captains.
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Kastone
#1345 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:46:23 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this?

Rumor was there and dismissed but you can't rule it out either.
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maka
#1346 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2015 7:06:05 PM
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Kastone wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this?

Rumor was there and dismissed but you can't rule it out either.


It's not a rumour it's totally true there is even an impending go slow from the pilots as 11 have been told they will be retired 2 years early...as for the planes they are being leased out.
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Gordon Gekko
#1347 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:52:36 PM
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maka wrote:
Kastone wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this?

Rumor was there and dismissed but you can't rule it out either.


It's not a rumour it's totally true there is even an impending go slow from the pilots as 11 have been told they will be retired 2 years early...as for the planes they are being leased out.

There are no routes in the forseable future to sustain the -300 which had been ordered. There may be space for the existing -200, but its crew is quite expensive to maintain. Take a 777 which does nbo-dubai-hongkong. You need a set of crew to take it to Dubai, a second set to take it to Hong Kong, another set to return it to Dubai and the set in Dubai to bring it back to nbo. You also need a fourth set as relief. That's four sets to run a single plane. At its basic level you need four sets, but with clever crew management one can get away with three. A 777 captain takes home1.5 metres before allowances. Because of type approval issues, 777 crew can't be deployed say to 787 or 737 or even embraers (haha)
obiero
#1348 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:21:02 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
maka wrote:
Kastone wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this?

Rumor was there and dismissed but you can't rule it out either.


It's not a rumour it's totally true there is even an impending go slow from the pilots as 11 have been told they will be retired 2 years early...as for the planes they are being leased out.

There are no routes in the forseable future to sustain the -300 which had been ordered. There may be space for the existing -200, but its crew is quite expensive to maintain. Take a 777 which does nbo-dubai-hongkong. You need a set of crew to take it to Dubai, a second set to take it to Hong Kong, another set to return it to Dubai and the set in Dubai to bring it back to nbo. You also need a fourth set as relief. That's four sets to run a single plane. At its basic level you need four sets, but with clever crew management one can get away with three. A 777 captain takes home1.5 metres before allowances. Because of type approval issues, 777 crew can't be deployed say to 787 or 737 or even embraers (haha)

Please remove the haha at the end. It seems intent to injure my spirits.. :) www.businessdailyafrica....20/-/mfcti7/-/index.html
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maka
#1349 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 7:09:36 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
maka wrote:
Kastone wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this?

Rumor was there and dismissed but you can't rule it out either.


It's not a rumour it's totally true there is even an impending go slow from the pilots as 11 have been told they will be retired 2 years early...as for the planes they are being leased out.

There are no routes in the forseable future to sustain the -300 which had been ordered. There may be space for the existing -200, but its crew is quite expensive to maintain. Take a 777 which does nbo-dubai-hongkong. You need a set of crew to take it to Dubai, a second set to take it to Hong Kong, another set to return it to Dubai and the set in Dubai to bring it back to nbo. You also need a fourth set as relief. That's four sets to run a single plane. At its basic level you need four sets, but with clever crew management one can get away with three. A 777 captain takes home1.5 metres before allowances. Because of type approval issues, 777 crew can't be deployed say to 787 or 737 or even embraers (haha)


On route matters,Tanzanian Civil Aviation has written to its Kenyan counterpart asking them to tell KQ to halve (Sp) their flights to Tz.
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VituVingiSana
#1350 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 9:08:27 AM
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maka wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
maka wrote:
Kastone wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this?

Rumor was there and dismissed but you can't rule it out either.


It's not a rumour it's totally true there is even an impending go slow from the pilots as 11 have been told they will be retired 2 years early...as for the planes they are being leased out.

There are no routes in the forseable future to sustain the -300 which had been ordered. There may be space for the existing -200, but its crew is quite expensive to maintain. Take a 777 which does nbo-dubai-hongkong. You need a set of crew to take it to Dubai, a second set to take it to Hong Kong, another set to return it to Dubai and the set in Dubai to bring it back to nbo. You also need a fourth set as relief. That's four sets to run a single plane. At its basic level you need four sets, but with clever crew management one can get away with three. A 777 captain takes home1.5 metres before allowances. Because of type approval issues, 777 crew can't be deployed say to 787 or 737 or even embraers (haha)


On route matters,Tanzanian Civil Aviation has written to its Kenyan counterpart asking them to tell KQ to halve (Sp) their flights to Tz.

Why? And KCAA should ignore the TCAA. After all, let KQ make a private/economic decision. Of course, this is Tanzania we are talking about. They are all about the double-speak. They were against the Northern Corridor (Coalition of the Willing) but now they attend the meetings though I remain suspicious. I think they plan to sabotage the Northern Corridor.
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