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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Swenani wrote:nakujua wrote:Swenani wrote:nakujua wrote:UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:As opposed to all that, i think most Kenyans are unhealthy. They should therefore be made to walk. All PSV vehicles shouldnt enter town, and people should walk to get them. For instance, all Thika Road pedestrians to be dropped at Ngara, all Waiyaki Way, Kangemi and Kikuyu passengers to be dropped hizo sides za Chiromo, Ngong Road waachwe hapo community, eastlanders waachwe Nyayo!! CBD itakuwa much better ... and the upcomingpaperchaser should be allowed to zoom into the cbd in his pajero io.  Lakini mimi iko support your recommendation, but in a more broader way - ban all cars (apart from the president's, deputy president, leader of opposition and may be the governor) from the cbd - then turn all those parking areas into markets and allow hawkers to come in and trade their wares (and charge each hawker 200 bob per day). Have you not seen pedestrians cross the road when its clearly green for cars and red for pedestrians thus forcing motorists to slow down and cause jam at the intersection/roundabout? Hapo sawa, but then we would need a slight change to the curriculum to include timers on the traffic lights, I think most of us pedestrians are ignorant. That's better,we need punitive measures in place.Kenya is not a logical functioning society Punitive measures will not instill logic in the society, especially if the reasons seem contrary to the the majority individuals 'haki yetu' way of commuting.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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nakujua wrote:Swenani wrote:nakujua wrote:Swenani wrote:nakujua wrote:UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:As opposed to all that, i think most Kenyans are unhealthy. They should therefore be made to walk. All PSV vehicles shouldnt enter town, and people should walk to get them. For instance, all Thika Road pedestrians to be dropped at Ngara, all Waiyaki Way, Kangemi and Kikuyu passengers to be dropped hizo sides za Chiromo, Ngong Road waachwe hapo community, eastlanders waachwe Nyayo!! CBD itakuwa much better ... and the upcomingpaperchaser should be allowed to zoom into the cbd in his pajero io. Lakini mimi iko support your recommendation, but in a more broader way - ban all cars (apart from the president's, deputy president, leader of opposition and may be the governor) from the cbd - then turn all those parking areas into markets and allow hawkers to come in and trade their wares (and charge each hawker 200 bob per day). Have you not seen pedestrians cross the road when its clearly green for cars and red for pedestrians thus forcing motorists to slow down and cause jam at the intersection/roundabout? Hapo sawa, but then we would need a slight change to the curriculum to include timers on the traffic lights, I think most of us pedestrians are ignorant. That's better,we need punitive measures in place.Kenya is not a logical functioning society Punitive measures will not instill logic in the society, especially if the reasons seem contrary to the the majority individuals 'haki yetu' way of commuting. I'm not asking for Kenyans to have logic thus why I'm proposing punitive measures If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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The first and main step in managing this traffic mess is acceptance by traffic cops that their role is to assist on the roads, rather than solicit bribes for any and every situation. If that change of mindset can come, we have won the battle! Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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KulaRaha wrote:The first and main step in managing this traffic mess is acceptance by traffic cops that their role is to assist on the roads, rather than solicit bribes for any and every situation.
If that change of mindset can come, we have won the battle! Why do we need traffic cops in the first place?I think because we are unable to think. I do not think we will win the battle if the cops accept that their work is to assist the road users but rather it will be when we as road users acknowledge that the road is meant for all of us(handcart pushers,pedestrians, ngombe,punda,vehicles etc),other people have right of way.Most kenyans think the road was meant for them and they have the right of way If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/3/2015 Posts: 86 Location: Bomet
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Swenani wrote:
Why do we need traffic cops in the first place?I think because we are unable to think.
I do not think we will the battle if the cops accept that their work is to assist the road users but rather it will be when we as road users acknowledge that the road is meant for all of us(handcart pushers,pedestrians, ngombe,punda,vehicles etc),other people have right of way.Most kenyans think the road was meant for them and they have the right of way
Rightly said. If road users respected the rules and applied courtesy then there would be less need for the traffic officers. These are simple things like keeping junctions clear for others and clearing the road when involved in minor accidents.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Until the day we as a society put to shame our "aggressive competitive" ways and attitudes we'll just have to accept and move on with the peculiar Kenya driving habits.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/23/2012 Posts: 32
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UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:As opposed to all that, i think most Kenyans are unhealthy. They should therefore be made to walk. All PSV vehicles shouldnt enter town, and people should walk to get them. For instance, all Thika Road pedestrians to be dropped at Ngara, all Waiyaki Way, Kangemi and Kikuyu passengers to be dropped hizo sides za Chiromo, Ngong Road waachwe hapo community, eastlanders waachwe Nyayo!! CBD itakuwa much better This was tried before when all matatus from eastlands were to drop and pick passenegers at Muthurwa, all it achieved was once massive traffic jam from Donholm to Muthurwa.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/3/2015 Posts: 86 Location: Bomet
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taka jua wrote:
This was tried before when all matatus from eastlands were to drop and pick passenegers at Muthurwa, all it achieved was once massive traffic jam from Donholm to Muthurwa.
This would have worked if they had enforced the original bus routes too. Buses have no business being in the city center waiting to fill up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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taka jua wrote:UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:As opposed to all that, i think most Kenyans are unhealthy. They should therefore be made to walk. All PSV vehicles shouldnt enter town, and people should walk to get them. For instance, all Thika Road pedestrians to be dropped at Ngara, all Waiyaki Way, Kangemi and Kikuyu passengers to be dropped hizo sides za Chiromo, Ngong Road waachwe hapo community, eastlanders waachwe Nyayo!! CBD itakuwa much better This was tried before when all matatus from eastlands were to drop and pick passenegers at Muthurwa, all it achieved was once massive traffic jam from Donholm to Muthurwa. This city is too dirty for walks. You are making wrong comparisons. No footpaths,sewage,garbage strewn all over,thugs. Its disgusting and dangerous to walk . I d rather keep my obesity than walk some of our roads. I dont know who are behind our city planning cz we dont have footpaths,working sewarage or drainage systems,the existing are overworked and have broken down. Nbo is not a city. In addition we walk like wildebeasts - In all directions,rough,shoving and pushing and spitting. ok I am done.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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All matatu owners believe the traffic mess is caused by private cars. All private car owners including kidraw believe matatus are the culprit. Now why is it so hard for kidraw to stand out of the box and realize that other than the issue of roads and confusion created by traffic cops, the other main contributor to traffic chaos is large no.of private cars? Any solution that does not seek to make public transport the natural choice is just a partial one
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/27/2010 Posts: 951 Location: Nyumbani
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kysse wrote:taka jua wrote:UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:As opposed to all that, i think most Kenyans are unhealthy. They should therefore be made to walk. All PSV vehicles shouldnt enter town, and people should walk to get them. For instance, all Thika Road pedestrians to be dropped at Ngara, all Waiyaki Way, Kangemi and Kikuyu passengers to be dropped hizo sides za Chiromo, Ngong Road waachwe hapo community, eastlanders waachwe Nyayo!! CBD itakuwa much better This was tried before when all matatus from eastlands were to drop and pick passenegers at Muthurwa, all it achieved was once massive traffic jam from Donholm to Muthurwa. This city is too dirty for walks. You are making wrong comparisons. No footpaths,sewage,garbage strewn all over,thugs. Its disgusting and dangerous to walk . I d rather keep my obesity than walk some of our roads. I dont know who are behind our city planning cz we dont have footpaths,working sewarage or drainage systems,the existing are overworked and have broken down. Nbo is not a city. In addition we walk like wildebeasts - In all directions,rough,shoving and pushing and spitting. ok I am done.  
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/27/2009 Posts: 1,437
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kiash wrote:kysse wrote:taka jua wrote:UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:As opposed to all that, i think most Kenyans are unhealthy. They should therefore be made to walk. All PSV vehicles shouldnt enter town, and people should walk to get them. For instance, all Thika Road pedestrians to be dropped at Ngara, all Waiyaki Way, Kangemi and Kikuyu passengers to be dropped hizo sides za Chiromo, Ngong Road waachwe hapo community, eastlanders waachwe Nyayo!! CBD itakuwa much better This was tried before when all matatus from eastlands were to drop and pick passenegers at Muthurwa, all it achieved was once massive traffic jam from Donholm to Muthurwa. This city is too dirty for walks. You are making wrong comparisons. No footpaths,sewage,garbage strewn all over,thugs. Its disgusting and dangerous to walk . I d rather keep my obesity than walk some of our roads. I dont know who are behind our city planning cz we dont have footpaths,working sewarage or drainage systems,the existing are overworked and have broken down. Nbo is not a city. In addition we walk like wildebeasts - In all directions,rough,shoving and pushing and spitting. ok I am done. Worse in this weather. What with so many sweaty Kenyans who walk without respecting personal space?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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In addition to that, eliminate stage parking. Every bus should drop and pick passengers and go. Esp at GPO, and KENCOM "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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murchr wrote:In addition to that, eliminate stage parking. Every bus should drop and pick passengers and go. Esp at GPO, and KENCOM Affordable public MASS transport is the key. If you still have thousands of 33 seater ma3 ferrying people around they will still congest the stages even if they were to park for 2 minutes to pick pax and leave. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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What about working hours? Do we all have to report at 8am and leave at 5pm.Suppose some sectors tweak this so that their employees report earlier or later? Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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kaka2za wrote:What about working hours? Do we all have to report at 8am and leave at 5pm.Suppose some sectors tweak this so that their employees report earlier or later? I dont know of any Kenya who will enjoy waking up at 2am in order to report to work at 4am so that they can return home at say midday!  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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This is madness.... possunt quia posse videntur
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