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First human head transplant expected in two years
KIKItheKING
#21 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 1:18:23 PM
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Impunity wrote:
tycho wrote:
digitek1 wrote:
tycho wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
Who will be the legal/moral owner of the "whole"? will it be the owner of the head or the body? Whose soul will posses the body?


The person will be a new legal entity with a new soul.

@quicksand, everything is possible; time, techniques, and conditions are changing fast to remove all obstacles.

where is the soul domiciled in the head or body


Neither. The soul is in the experience and relations.


The soul is not domiciled in any physical body.
You can see nor touch soul, you can only experience it.

Take those who have kidney transplants or cornea transplants, do they have two souls? Theirs aand donors?

These is very scary. What happens with age? You decide you wont die and you find a new body for your old head? If you are impared you find a new perfect body? They wont have an identity or even a soul. They will just be Zobbies!!
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AlphDoti
#22 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 5:18:09 PM
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KIKItheKING wrote:
Impunity wrote:
tycho wrote:
digitek1 wrote:
tycho wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
Who will be the legal/moral owner of the "whole"? will it be the owner of the head or the body? Whose soul will posses the body?

The person will be a new legal entity with a new soul.

@quicksand, everything is possible; time, techniques, and conditions are changing fast to remove all obstacles.

where is the soul domiciled in the head or body

Neither. The soul is in the experience and relations.

The soul is not domiciled in any physical body.
You can see nor touch soul, you can only experience it.

Take those who have kidney transplants or cornea transplants, do they have two souls? Theirs aand donors?

These is very scary. What happens with age? You decide you wont die and you find a new body for your old head? If you are impared you find a new perfect body? They wont have an identity or even a soul. They will just be Zobbies!!

To know for sure where the soul resides, they can pick perfectly healthy individuals (WHO ARE TOTAL STRANGERS), exchange the heads. And when they wake up, each is asked separately, who they think they are? Their names etc Pray
kenmac
#23 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 6:29:07 PM
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suppose that you do a transplant of a 90 year old head on a 20year old body. Assuming memory and brains are not interfered with, the 90 year old would technically live over 150 years. like doing a transplant of Steve jobs would have ensured we retained the brains on a healthy body,.......imagining things
......Ecclesiastes
harrydre
#24 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 7:39:33 PM
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Very weird even just thinking about it.
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T-Bag
#25 Posted : Sunday, March 08, 2015 9:34:10 PM
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@tycho , if the soul is "in the experience and relations." Do identical twins share one soul? Case in point are some two form four twins from Ziwa Uasin Gishu , Kenya. They seem to think, act and feel the same, too many coincidences, even class 8 and form 4 marks are identical, could this be separation by birth
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tycho
#26 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2015 8:18:30 AM
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T-Bag wrote:
@tycho , if the soul is "in the experience and relations." Do identical twins share one soul? Case in point are some two form four twins from Ziwa Uasin Gishu , Kenya. They seem to think, act and feel the same, too many coincidences, even class 8 and form 4 marks are identical, could this be separation by birth


If the soul is in the experience and relations then even identical twins have seperate souls.

But your question goes deeper because it takes us back into the womb, and questions regarding how the developing child gets all this information that he/she's born with. In the case of these twins, monozygotic twins, I suppose, we can infer that they were impinged with homogeneous conditions and information before birth, and more or less homogenous conditions after birth hence the convergence in behavior.

Birth didn't seperate them. They haven't been seperated. Each is on his own.
Impunity
#27 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2015 9:23:11 AM
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kenmac wrote:
suppose that you do a transplant of a 90 year old head on a 20year old body. Assuming memory and brains are not interfered with, the 90 year old would technically live over 150 years. like doing a transplant of Steve jobs would have ensured we retained the brains on a healthy body,.......imagining things


Or the head will just die at 100 yrs, it may not hold any longer!
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kenmac
#28 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2015 8:31:44 PM
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Impunity wrote:
kenmac wrote:
suppose that you do a transplant of a 90 year old head on a 20year old body. Assuming memory and brains are not interfered with, the 90 year old would technically live over 150 years. like doing a transplant of Steve jobs would have ensured we retained the brains on a healthy body,.......imagining things


Or the head will just die at 100 yrs, it may not hold any longer!



the head becomes a CPU, with neck down being for output (monitor) like walking, doing stuff with hands, digestion...etc.

If it becomes successful, some rich guys will form kidnapping squads. They get stomach cancer or whatever, they kidnap some guy and they do a head transplant. With memory and everything else in the head intact, they pretty much function as before.

Think of people who get replacement artificial appendages like that south african Pistorious guy
......Ecclesiastes
Impunity
#29 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2016 10:23:45 PM
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Due before end on 2017!

Success in Rat and Chimp realized already.

Imagine a @Tycho head on a @Swenani torso!?

Pray Pray Pray Pray
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harrydre
#30 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2016 11:19:40 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Due before end on 2017!

Success in Rat and Chimp realized already.

Imagine a @Tycho head on a @Swenani torso!?

Pray Pray Pray Pray


They should have used you for a trial run...and I mean not the head.
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kayhara
#31 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2016 11:53:35 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Due before end on 2017!

Success in Rat and Chimp realized already.

Imagine a @Tycho head on a @Swenani torso!?

Pray Pray Pray Pray

Curious is there a head donor or will some broke be killed or is it a head exchange.
To Each His Own
Impunity
#32 Posted : Monday, February 01, 2016 1:31:20 AM
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kayhara wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Due before end on 2017!

Success in Rat and Chimp realized already.

Imagine a @Tycho head on a @Swenani torso!?

Pray Pray Pray Pray

Curious is there a head donor or will some broke be killed or is it a head exchange.


The head is the key, they will get torso from some morgue.
Interesting time ahead.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

harrydre
#33 Posted : Friday, April 08, 2016 7:53:18 PM
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Impunity wrote:
kayhara wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Due before end on 2017!

Success in Rat and Chimp realized already.

Imagine a @Tycho head on a @Swenani torso!?

Pray Pray Pray Pray

Curious is there a head donor or will some broke be killed or is it a head exchange.


The head is the key, they will get torso from some morgue.
Interesting time ahead.


Does the soul exist and where does it reside? in the body (heart/moyo) or in the head (brain)?

I got myself in a conversation with a dude who had undergone a heart transplant. it was funny he too thought it was weird that the only reason he was alive was due to someone else's heart in him. So I just had to ask him if he felt any different after the surgery like lost identity or something......lol
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tycho
#34 Posted : Friday, April 08, 2016 8:02:23 PM
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harrydre wrote:
Impunity wrote:
kayhara wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Due before end on 2017!

Success in Rat and Chimp realized already.

Imagine a @Tycho head on a @Swenani torso!?

Pray Pray Pray Pray

Curious is there a head donor or will some broke be killed or is it a head exchange.


The head is the key, they will get torso from some morgue.
Interesting time ahead.


Does the soul exist and where does it reside? in the body (heart/moyo) or in the head (brain)?

I got myself in a conversation with a dude who had undergone a heart transplant. it was funny he too thought it was weird that the only reason he was alive was due to someone else's heart in him. So I just had to ask him if he felt any different after the surgery like lost identity or something......lol


Maybe we should start by saying what a soul is before finding about its existence ....
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