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Safaricom data bundles (SK edition!!!)
MaichBlack
#51 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 2:06:10 PM
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Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,895
Swenani wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Rawsinvestor wrote:
If I can buy for the whole village what is the problem? That makes it easier for KPLC as they are not going to have lots of bills to send.
There is not justification for what Safaricom is doing unless there is something else that we do not know and we should never know.

But you can't buy for the whole village Laughing out loudly

This is similar to those guys who subscribe DSTV and illegally distribute to his neighbours for money!

This is similar to those Kibera fellows illegally distributing electricity...

Many examples... This is not acceptable Shame on you

Wrong comparisons!!!

Dstv re distributors pay for a single subscription and distribute it to multiple individuals losing the company revenue. Instead of 30 people paying 210,000/= 'they' pay 7,000/=. That's a HUGE problem for the company!! @Rawsinvestor will actually pay KPLC more if he allows the villagers to use power.

Kibera fellows (and other informal settlements) are pure thugs!!! The don't pay for any of the electricity. They simply STEAL it by tapping into KPLC lines.


KPLC will lose,If Rawsinvestor distributes to 100 villagers, KPLC will lose 14000 in fixed charges(I'm not sure whether the fixed charge is still 140 per bill)

On the contrary1

They will actually make more money!!!

If the villagers have their own meters/connections, they will each consume less than 50 units per month. Now down to the maths.

The first 50 units are charged 2.50/= per kwh.

51 - 500 units 13.68/= per kwh

Above 500 units 21.57/= per kwh

For the sake of this calculation, lets assume @Rawsinvestor and each of the 100 villagers consumes 50 units per month (A fair approximation in the village)

Scenario 1: @Rawsinvestor distributing the power

Total usage: 101 * 50 units = 5,050 units.
Bill:
Fixed Charge = 140/=
First 50 units = 2.50/= * 50 = 125/=
51 - 500 units = 13.68 * 450 = 6,156/=
501 - 5050 units = 21.57 * 4550 = 98,143.5/=
Bill (consumption + Fixed Charge) = 140 + 125 + 6,156 + 98,143.5 = 104,564.5/=

Scenario 2: Every villager with own connection

Bill per villager:
Fixed Charge: 140/=
Consumption: 2.50/= * 50 = 125/=
Total = 140 + 125 = 265/=

Total for the 101 villagers = 265/= * 101 = 26,765/=

Kenya Power will actually make 4 times more for the same power supplied if @Rawsinvestor distributes the power to his fellow villagers!

Note:
1) I have ignored taxes and fuel charge because they are ratios and would therefore not affect the comparison.

2) You don't have to work with 50 units. Choose any realistic value and Kenya Power still makes more from "distributed" power. If the villagers consume more than 50 units per home, they make more than 4 times because all the extra units will be pushed to the 21.57/= band. If they consume less than 50 units, Kenya Power still makes more from "distributed" but the ratio reduces the lower you go.

Even if the villagers did their best and consumed 10 units each per month, Kenya Power still makes more! Try repeating the calculations with 10 units per home (which is ridiculously low) and see!!!

Habari ndiyo hiyo.
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MaichBlack
#52 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 2:08:09 PM
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#FeelingMathematicalToday.

Probably went too far explaining the point.

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Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
AlphDoti
#53 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 4:57:21 PM
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Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
MaichBlack wrote:
#FeelingMathematicalToday.

Probably went too far explaining the point.

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@maich, I can see you're quite something! Surely your parents didn't waste their money educating you Applause
Swenani
#54 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 7:50:56 PM
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Posts: 13,237
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MaichBlack wrote:
#FeelingMathematicalToday.

Probably went too far explaining the point.

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umekunywa faxe? but I get you point
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Sober
#55 Posted : Sunday, March 08, 2015 12:33:10 AM
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Joined: 11/27/2007
Posts: 3,604
Rawsinvestor wrote:
If I can buy for the whole village what is the problem? That makes it easier for KPLC as they are not going to have lots of bills to send.
There is not justification for what Safaricom is doing unless there is something else that we do not know and we should never know.


safcom realised that they are losing from the smaller customers who buy many 'small' bundles.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
Sober
#56 Posted : Sunday, March 08, 2015 12:38:24 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 11/27/2007
Posts: 3,604
MaichBlack wrote:
Swenani wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Rawsinvestor wrote:
If I can buy for the whole village what is the problem? That makes it easier for KPLC as they are not going to have lots of bills to send.
There is not justification for what Safaricom is doing unless there is something else that we do not know and we should never know.

But you can't buy for the whole village Laughing out loudly

This is similar to those guys who subscribe DSTV and illegally distribute to his neighbours for money!

This is similar to those Kibera fellows illegally distributing electricity...

Many examples... This is not acceptable Shame on you

Wrong comparisons!!!

Dstv re distributors pay for a single subscription and distribute it to multiple individuals losing the company revenue. Instead of 30 people paying 210,000/= 'they' pay 7,000/=. That's a HUGE problem for the company!! @Rawsinvestor will actually pay KPLC more if he allows the villagers to use power.

Kibera fellows (and other informal settlements) are pure thugs!!! The don't pay for any of the electricity. They simply STEAL it by tapping into KPLC lines.


KPLC will lose,If Rawsinvestor distributes to 100 villagers, KPLC will lose 14000 in fixed charges(I'm not sure whether the fixed charge is still 140 per bill)

On the contrary1

They will actually make more money!!!

If the villagers have their own meters/connections, they will each consume less than 50 units per month. Now down to the maths.

The first 50 units are charged 2.50/= per kwh.

51 - 500 units 13.68/= per kwh

Above 500 units 21.57/= per kwh

For the sake of this calculation, lets assume @Rawsinvestor and each of the 100 villagers consumes 50 units per month (A fair approximation in the village)

Scenario 1: @Rawsinvestor distributing the power

Total usage: 101 * 50 units = 5,050 units.
Bill:
Fixed Charge = 140/=
First 50 units = 2.50/= * 50 = 125/=
51 - 500 units = 13.68 * 450 = 6,156/=
501 - 5050 units = 21.57 * 4550 = 98,143.5/=
Bill (consumption + Fixed Charge) = 140 + 125 + 6,156 + 98,143.5 = 104,564.5/=

Scenario 2: Every villager with own connection

Bill per villager:
Fixed Charge: 140/=
Consumption: 2.50/= * 50 = 125/=
Total = 140 + 125 = 265/=

Total for the 101 villagers = 265/= * 101 = 26,765/=

Kenya Power will actually make 4 times more for the same power supplied if @Rawsinvestor distributes the power to his fellow villagers!

Note:
1) I have ignored taxes and fuel charge because they are ratios and would therefore not affect the comparison.

2) You don't have to work with 50 units. Choose any realistic value and Kenya Power still makes more from "distributed" power. If the villagers consume more than 50 units per home, they make more than 4 times because all the extra units will be pushed to the 21.57/= band. If they consume less than 50 units, Kenya Power still makes more from "distributed" but the ratio reduces the lower you go.

Even if the villagers did their best and consumed 10 units each per month, Kenya Power still makes more! Try repeating the calculations with 10 units per home (which is ridiculously low) and see!!!

Habari ndiyo hiyo.


looking looking at this; I can confidently say this guy is the guy is the one who goes round with the Kenya Power Honda disconnecting people whose bills are in arrears.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
ike
#57 Posted : Sunday, March 08, 2015 2:16:37 PM
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Posts: 123
They know your habits and what you need. Kenyans will complain and after some time find means to adapt. if the bundles intake reduces they launch a mega promotion and even your wife/mum will consistently ask if you've subscribed so you can bring the mirrions home.
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Atalaku
#58 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:58:38 AM
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Joined: 9/7/2010
Posts: 1,063
Location: Kenya
http://www.businessdaily...6/-/ksd2wo/-/index.html

The Safaricom director for corporate affairs Nzioka Waita said in an interview the review was effected to address complaints from customers who wanted longer expiry period for their data bundles.
KulaRaha
#59 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2015 8:02:56 AM
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Joined: 7/26/2007
Posts: 6,514
While stupid Airtel expires in 30 days.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
Jus Blazin
#60 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:05:23 AM
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Joined: 10/23/2008
Posts: 3,966
MaichBlack wrote:
#FeelingMathematicalToday.

Probably went too far explaining the point.

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Which was actually a wrong point, considering that with power, the more units you consume, the higher you pay per unit. With bundles, the more data you buy per bundle, the less you pay per unit. Now, hoping that you still feel mathematical today, can you work out the same scenario with large data bundles, and reselling?
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