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Contradiction Premises
KIKItheKING
#1 Posted : Thursday, March 05, 2015 9:35:27 PM
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God can do ANYTHING.. Can He make a stone too heavy for Him to lift?

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tycho
#2 Posted : Thursday, March 05, 2015 9:44:10 PM
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Of course. (If there's such an entity with such power).
AlphDoti
#3 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 11:03:11 AM
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tycho wrote:
Of course. (If there's such an entity with such power).

@tycho I thought with your broad knowledge,I thought you have studied "The law of non-contradiction" Laughing out loudly

The definition of God (true God) is not God of contradiction. If you know of a god who is a creator and he creates contradictory things, then he is not God.
tycho
#4 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 11:07:24 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
Of course. (If there's such an entity with such power).

@tycho I thought with your broad knowledge,I thought you have studied "The law of non-contradiction" Laughing out loudly

The definition of God (true God) is not God of contradiction. If you know of a god who is a creator and he creates contradictory things, then he is not God.


Unfortunately in this case, there's no contradiction.
Swenani
#5 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 11:07:56 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
Of course. (If there's such an entity with such power).

@tycho I thought with your broad knowledge,I thought you have studied "The law of non-contradiction" Laughing out loudly

The definition of God (true God) is not God of contradiction. If you know of a god who is a creator and he creates contradictory things, then he is not God.


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tycho
#6 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 12:32:43 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
Of course. (If there's such an entity with such power).

@tycho I thought with your broad knowledge,I thought you have studied "The law of non-contradiction" Laughing out loudly

The definition of God (true God) is not God of contradiction. If you know of a god who is a creator and he creates contradictory things, then he is not God.


Isn't it amazing that this all powerful 'God' is limited to Boolean logic?

Your sentiments @AlphDoti, are probably an indicator of how humans create God and hide the fact from themselves. Someone called it 'the mystification of experience'.

AlphDoti
#7 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 1:06:27 PM
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tycho wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
Of course. (If there's such an entity with such power).

@tycho I thought with your broad knowledge,I thought you have studied "The law of non-contradiction" Laughing out loudly

The definition of God (true God) is not God of contradiction. If you know of a god who is a creator and he creates contradictory things, then he is not God.

Isn't it amazing that this all powerful 'God' is limited to Boolean logic?

Your sentiments @AlphDoti, are probably an indicator of how humans create God and hide the fact from themselves. Someone called it 'the mystification of experience'.

It's true God can do all things. But asking "can God create a rock so big He cannot lift", is contradictions, is nonesense. The answer is no, that scenario is nonsense. No sensible being can bring up such situation. Not even an All-Powerful one.

So, don't get carried away, we are not saying you apply logic to God, even though yes a true God is logical, true God cannot be illogical. The fact that God cannot create contradiction, is not reason to say He has limited power. Example, the fact that a CEO does not steal from his own company is not an indication to his inability to steal.

Simply put: it is not in the nature of God to create contradictions.
AlphDoti
#8 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 1:08:45 PM
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tycho wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
Of course. (If there's such an entity with such power).

@tycho I thought with your broad knowledge,I thought you have studied "The law of non-contradiction" Laughing out loudly

The definition of God (true God) is not God of contradiction. If you know of a god who is a creator and he creates contradictory things, then he is not God.

Isn't it amazing that this all powerful 'God' is limited to Boolean logic?

Your sentiments @AlphDoti, are probably an indicator of how humans create God and hide the fact from themselves. Someone called it 'the mystification of experience'.

It is true some people have "created" gods, and that is why you end up with things which are contradictory. That's why a said up there in my post "If you know of a god who is a creator and he creates contradictory things, then he is not God."
tycho
#9 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 1:38:34 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
Of course. (If there's such an entity with such power).

@tycho I thought with your broad knowledge,I thought you have studied "The law of non-contradiction" Laughing out loudly

The definition of God (true God) is not God of contradiction. If you know of a god who is a creator and he creates contradictory things, then he is not God.

Isn't it amazing that this all powerful 'God' is limited to Boolean logic?

Your sentiments @AlphDoti, are probably an indicator of how humans create God and hide the fact from themselves. Someone called it 'the mystification of experience'.

It's true God can do all things. But asking "can God create a rock so big He cannot lift", is contradictions, is nonesense. The answer is no, that scenario is nonsense. No sensible being can bring up such situation. Not even an All-Powerful one.

So, don't get carried away, we are not saying you apply logic to God, even though yes a true God is logical, true God cannot be illogical. The fact that God cannot create contradiction, is not reason to say He has limited power. Example, the fact that a CEO does not steal from his own company is not an indication to his inability to steal.

Simply put: it is not in the nature of God to create contradictions.


Your response conforms to logic, but only one kind of logic. And I'd quickly agree if at least the question would only make sense for that kind of logic.

But I realize the question is vague enough to include ALL kinds of logic! So there must at least an answer that is true to all kinds of logic available and even possible.
tycho
#10 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 1:41:58 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
Of course. (If there's such an entity with such power).

@tycho I thought with your broad knowledge,I thought you have studied "The law of non-contradiction" Laughing out loudly

The definition of God (true God) is not God of contradiction. If you know of a god who is a creator and he creates contradictory things, then he is not God.

Isn't it amazing that this all powerful 'God' is limited to Boolean logic?

Your sentiments @AlphDoti, are probably an indicator of how humans create God and hide the fact from themselves. Someone called it 'the mystification of experience'.

It is true some people have "created" gods, and that is why you end up with things which are contradictory. That's why a said up there in my post "If you know of a god who is a creator and he creates contradictory things, then he is not God."


Hahaha!

So the God who created 'matter' isn't the one who created 'anti-matter'? Or is it me who's seeing contradiction everywhere?
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