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Politically exposed NSE shares
Mainat
#1 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:43:09 AM
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If you hold such, buy a new pillow...
These are the times when things will only happen and you realise too late umedanganywa.
Uchumi, KPLC, KenGen, Coop, KenRe, even KCB. None will be immune.
Sehemu ndio nyumba
obiero
#2 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:50:07 AM
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Mainat wrote:
If you hold such, buy a new pillow...
These are the times when things will only happen and you realise too late umedanganywa.
Uchumi, KPLC, KenGen, Coop, KenRe, even KCB. None will be immune.

Explain how Coop & KCB are politically exposed

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
whiteowl
#3 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:50:09 AM
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What's your definition of "politically exposed" ? Is there a certain threshold govt ownership has to cross, say 50%? which doesn't apply to KCB ,Uchumi
Ericsson
#4 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:00:20 AM
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@Mainat;
Substantiate your statement.
Does that also apply to safaricom where gava has 35% stake
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Aguytrying
#5 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:00:29 AM
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@mainat. even on a normal day I wouldn't touch those shares. could we add EAPC and KQ?
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Mainat
#6 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:57:26 AM
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Significant influence is the word.
At Safcom, Vodafone has full say.
At KCB, only GoK has full say, but under Baba Jimmy, he avoided such bs. Not so under private developer (rotich is a proxxy).

Yes, EAPC is notorious. NBK also on the list.
Sehemu ndio nyumba
yosie14
#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:09:00 AM
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Mainat wrote:
Significant influence is the word.
At Safcom, Vodafone has full say.
At KCB, only GoK has full say, but under Baba Jimmy, he avoided such bs. Not so under private developer (rotich is a proxxy).

Yes, EAPC is notorious. NBK also on the list.


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Boris Boyka
#8 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:23:28 AM
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Mainat wrote:
Significant influence is the word.
At Safcom, Vodafone has full say.
At KCB, only GoK has full say, but under Baba Jimmy, he avoided such bs. Not so under private developer (rotich is a proxxy).

Yes, EAPC is notorious. NBK also on the list.

coop??
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Bachuma Gate
#9 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:31:41 AM
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Coop ....CEO has 102% influence. But to his advantage first n foremost.
DOH
edwinmukiri
#10 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:55:18 AM
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Most of this shares are doing good so i do not see a reason to be worried.
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ike
#11 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 10:18:46 AM
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Mainat wrote:
Significant influence is the word.
At Safcom, Vodafone has full say.
At KCB, only GoK has full say, but under Baba Jimmy, he avoided such bs. Not so under private developer (rotich is a proxxy).

Yes, EAPC is notorious. NBK also on the list.

You have deliberately ignored kq
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Sober
#12 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 10:23:27 AM
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Bachuma Gate wrote:
Coop ....CEO has 102% influence. But to his advantage first n foremost.

African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
Mainat
#13 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 10:36:45 AM
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Look at co-op's role in the economy. Also past history. KQ is obvious.
Not necessarily to do with how they did at the end of 2014. The next few years
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Boris Boyka
#14 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:38:25 PM
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Mainat wrote:
Look at co-op's role in the economy. Also past history. KQ is obvious.
Not necessarily to do with how they did at the end of 2014. The next few years

You are a poor teacher,informer! wazua is a place you give sustative information for all to enjoy and learn. hizi zako nusunusu unaulizwa unasema; just look....politically exposed....ooh sijui nini. How do you put kcb coop in that bin with other trash and do not mention a satisfactory point? Going through MSC kplc kengen kq threads wazuans point out issues in connection with gvt role..hi yako looks hearsay or funny thought. what is political exposure? How has it affected kcb and coop?
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Boris Boyka
#15 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:44:49 PM
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Bachuma Gate wrote:
Coop ....CEO has 102% influence. But to his advantage first n foremost.

How? put it forward! Why can't you say the manner. Either wazuans are hidding information of late or wanapiga gumzo mitaani. Are you saying what Muriuki is doing is comparable to Naikuni Kidero Ciano e.t.c??? Show me ANY CEO who has NOT influenced & benefited from the company he/she is in charge.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Akenyan2014
#16 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 3:11:38 PM
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Looks like this is a political post. Who doesn't know the sworn haters of govt-backed stocks?
murchr
#17 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:13:27 PM
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Mainat wrote:
Significant influence is the word.
At Safcom, Vodafone has full say.
At KCB, only GoK has full say, but under Baba Jimmy, he avoided such bs. Not so under private developer (rotich is a proxxy).

Yes, EAPC is notorious. NBK also on the list.


Conspiracy theories.
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mlennyma
#18 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:49:19 PM
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Its a bad thing to find the gvt in a successful bank like kcb,moi and cronies attempted to bring it down but who knows about future leaders policies??
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Aguytrying
#19 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:23:03 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Its a bad thing to find the gvt in a successful bank like kcb,moi and cronies attempted to bring it down but who knows about future leaders policies??


kwanza this current crop. watu wajichunge sana. baba jimmy was ok ish, I smell ongoing mega scandals unearthed down the road
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
target1360
#20 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:31:16 PM
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why would any sober investor wish to form a partnership with politicians who have control over an organisation?
I find satisfaction in owning great business,not trading them
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