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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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I think we sometimes miss the point - if Turkana was so bad - how come people live there? Sio ati walihamia huko juzi... they have been living there for centuries, if a place is really bad no one stays there - you migrate sindio? no one lives in the middle of the sahara without an oasis - sindio? ...so ask yourself... what changed? I have a theory the people there were once self sufficient (they are the 3rd largest Nilotic tribe in Kenya) but after one bad drought people out of their own goodwill came with Aid and now the people there are dependent on Aid and cannot think for themselves - it really has not thing to do with people outside Turkana. We will come with solutions to do agrarian type agriculture - they are culturally not planters (in some places those who plant are considered weak). So, instead of us coming up with solution that make sense to us in the 'greener' part of the Kenya we need to empower them so that they can find solutions for themselves that make sense in their context. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Jamani wrote:otienosmall wrote:…oooh! tunaomba serkal!...oooh! we are marginalised! ….ooh! blablabla…. This song is weird and goes to show how stupid a people can get. I go to a certain village and marvel at the access of plenty fresh piped water. How it came about; community starts a project contribute to a kitty, buy pipes, dig many kilometres of furrow for the pipes and there they go. Same with electricity; starts a village project, takes as more as 10 years to achieve but finally is done.
So what prevents that village from North Eastern, Ukambani and other places from doing a similar thing? If the Eastern fellows probably sell ten cows or a few camels per homestead and pool to a kitty, they can sink themselves a community borehole…that’s no rocket science! Otherwise let’s keep ombaring serkal because we are merginalized
Its all in the head.... poverty is in the head. easy to say that when you had available to you a good education, security and a roof over your head. did you have to organize your community to dig boreholes ama you had tapped water. all the places that are developed had a big intervention from the government to kick start the developments, even in the developed world
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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eco wrote:Blue Gold. Wars of the future will be fought over water as they are over oil today. The US is setting strategic military bases in East Africa (UG) and Latin America (Paraguay). Why? More here... then they will be shipping the water in ships over the ocean in heavy rain storms to their homes in the west.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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Can the community really afford to have boreholes sunk buy selling a few cows?
....And that water can be used for livestock farming too if that's what they can do best, after all agriculture is not just about planting crops.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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nakujua wrote:Jamani wrote:otienosmall wrote:…oooh! tunaomba serkal!...oooh! we are marginalised! ….ooh! blablabla…. This song is weird and goes to show how stupid a people can get. I go to a certain village and marvel at the access of plenty fresh piped water. How it came about; community starts a project contribute to a kitty, buy pipes, dig many kilometres of furrow for the pipes and there they go. Same with electricity; starts a village project, takes as more as 10 years to achieve but finally is done.
So what prevents that village from North Eastern, Ukambani and other places from doing a similar thing? If the Eastern fellows probably sell ten cows or a few camels per homestead and pool to a kitty, they can sink themselves a community borehole…that’s no rocket science! Otherwise let’s keep ombaring serkal because we are merginalized
Its all in the head.... poverty is in the head. easy to say that when you had available to you a good education, security and a roof over your head. did you have to organize your community to dig boreholes ama you had tapped water. all the places that are developed had a big intervention from the government to kick start the developments, even in the developed world First of all Otienosmall, it is the duty of the govt to provide its citizens with the basic needs of survival so these residents/people have everyright to complain of being marginalized. Secondly, boreholes cannot be sunk everywhere, we may have water underground but a simple borehole cannot get there, so a community sometimes cannot be blamed for that. So the villagers of N.Eastern and Ukambani also love to live but what prevents them from getting these basic amenities is lack of support...i believe they would provide cheap labor. Have you ever imagined if there was a 2nd KMC in Turkana what that would do to that community? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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josiah33 wrote:Can the community really afford to have boreholes sunk buy selling a few cows?
....And that water can be used for livestock farming too if that's what they can do best, after all agriculture is not just about planting crops. culture culture my friend. I watched a documentary about their culture and realised that unless they do away with primitive cultural beliefs,no amount of intervention will help. How for instance do u make them believe that owning many cows alone is not the only sign of wealth? How if cows are used for so many cultural functions? What about raiding neighbouring communities as proof one's manhood or masculinity? They keep accumulating cows for such. Golden cows they are. The best way to get rid of silly traditions is through education.Now that, is the goverment's work. The sooner they invest in building classes ,books,teachers etc the better it will be for the marginalised communities. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/6/2010 Posts: 289
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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essyk wrote:josiah33 wrote:Can the community really afford to have boreholes sunk buy selling a few cows?
....And that water can be used for livestock farming too if that's what they can do best, after all agriculture is not just about planting crops. culture culture my friend. I watched a documentary about their culture and realised that unless they do away with primitive cultural beliefs,no amount of intervention will help. How for instance do u make them believe that owning many cows alone is not the only sign of wealth? How if cows are used for so many cultural functions? What about raiding neighbouring communities as proof one's manhood or masculinity? They keep accumulating cows for such. Golden cows they are. The best way to get rid of silly traditions is through education.Now that, is the goverment's work. The sooner they invest in building classes ,books,teachers etc the better it will be for the marginalised communities. Yeah! i do believe those fellows need some real attitude change too.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Wacha kucheka. You should have been saddened by the news. 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/10/2010 Posts: 1,001 Location: River Road
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With oil, wind and solar energy abundant in turkana it should be easy to run a desalination plant. Israel survives on sea water. But our leaders and intellectuals, bure kabisa
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,468
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That's one well. More to be drilled (and the water tested). And desalinization will not always be as expensive as it is now. New technologies come up every day. And in any case there are countries that use desalinated water currently. But before then, let's wait for the results from the other Wells to be drilled. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,468
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??????? What's funny?? Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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laugh of tears-Part of an Africa proverb from Bangui. The 2013 discovery was hailed as a chance for the arid northern region to finally feed its people. Tests on a vast aquifer found in Kenya's drought-wracked Turkana region show the water is too salty to drink, a government official said on Friday. -2015is desalination an option? smh
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