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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/1/2014 Posts: 903 Location: sky
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Kausha wrote:Exit Cherry Holdings and energy resources. no wonder supply was not drying! who replaced them? There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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littledove wrote:h2s wrote:Where can one get the list of the current top shareholders for Kenolkobil? I have this in my note book, I would like to see if their is any change kk top shareholders wells petroleum holding 24% petroholdings 17.4% Highfield 12.46% Chery holdings 7.9% energy resources Africa 6% total 68% Going by @kaushas word; the two had 14% that is about 200m shares which explains the ever present supply....another question is who was buying in to top shareholding? are the the above 5 entities related in any other way apart from kk? Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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Kausha wrote:Exit Cherry Holdings and energy resources. is this the total guy? "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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The dead shall arise,say Amen!! "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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mlennyma wrote:The dead shall arise,say Amen!! 7.2m traded,you will always see the big volume traded,you will never see where the buy order was placed. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/1/2014 Posts: 903 Location: sky
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mlennyma wrote:mlennyma wrote:The dead shall arise,say Amen!! 7.2m traded,you will always see the big volume traded,you will never see where the buy order was placed. alot of hidden demand! There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2012 Posts: 136
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I just read fuel has internationally been rising slowly not much but soon the guys here will make it rise and since the % decrease has been unequal to the drop in international price i have a gut feel that there profits will be not obese but FAT
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 411
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Energy shares gain as falling oil price lifts consumption - http://www.businessdaily...8/-/15tn6y7/-/index.htmlYour income is directly related to your philosophy, Not the economy.-Jim Rohn
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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mazingira wrote:I just read fuel has internationally been rising slowly not much but soon the guys here will make it rise and since the % decrease has been unequal to the drop in international price i have a gut feel that there profits will be not obese but FAT And yet a far cry from the peak. Perhaps 2015 will be better if oil prices remain low(er) than 2014. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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Will kk rally like kengen because it will post about 200% profit jump??? "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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mlennyma wrote:Will kk rally like kengen because it will post about 200% profit jump??? Lets hope so. Those of us who bought at 8 can mint good money if it decides to rally.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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whiteowl wrote:mlennyma wrote:Will kk rally like kengen because it will post about 200% profit jump??? Lets hope so. Those of us who bought at 8 can mint good money if it decides to rally. if the management really wants to give back to those who stood by them when the company was dying they should give a bonus plus dividend "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:mlennyma wrote:Will kk rally like kengen because it will post about 200% profit jump??? Lets hope so. Those of us who bought at 8 can mint good money if it decides to rally. if the management really wants to give back to those who stood by them when the company was dying they should give a bonus plus dividend Well,I've only been with them for a couple of months but bonus+dividend is most welcome
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/24/2014 Posts: 14
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whiteowl wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:mlennyma wrote:Will kk rally like kengen because it will post about 200% profit jump??? Lets hope so. Those of us who bought at 8 can mint good money if it decides to rally. if the management really wants to give back to those who stood by them when the company was dying they should give a bonus plus dividend Well,I've only been with them for a couple of months but bonus+dividend is most welcome Dividends would be great news. guys have almst formed a KK cult. where >12/= (messaiah) will redeem <10/= (the lost souls).
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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One advantage of Segman over Ohana was giving hope and information. Ohana is a quiet Rat that bites and blows, but he is biting a large chunk and we are feeling pain. Apart from the HY results he went hidding or hunting, will he come with meat?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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 ...and what would happen if Sinopec Group partnered with KK? There would be a giant in the room with bags of money that would lead to Total and Vivo energy start trembling. China companies are yet to enter Africa with a bang and anything that is happening is through smaller affiliates like China road and bridges, etc. With time big Mamas may arrive.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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Realtreaty wrote:...and what would happen if Sinopec Group partnered with KK? There would be a giant in the room with bags of money that would lead to Total and Vivo energy start trembling. China companies are yet to enter Africa with a bang and anything that is happening is through smaller affiliates like China road and bridges, etc. With time big Mamas may arrive.  one is upstream and refining, the other is downstream - where's the synergy?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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Gordon Gekko wrote:Realtreaty wrote:...and what would happen if Sinopec Group partnered with KK? There would be a giant in the room with bags of money that would lead to Total and Vivo energy start trembling. China companies are yet to enter Africa with a bang and anything that is happening is through smaller affiliates like China road and bridges, etc. With time big Mamas may arrive. one is upstream and refining, the other is downstream - where's the synergy? Sinopec deals in both as Puma could have done (Upstream and downstream) Some of these Chinese companies are in Africa and may try to influence African markets both sides than export their raw materials for re-imports. China is in Agola, sudan, owns some blocks in Kenya and others.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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Realtreaty wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:Realtreaty wrote:...and what would happen if Sinopec Group partnered with KK? There would be a giant in the room with bags of money that would lead to Total and Vivo energy start trembling. China companies are yet to enter Africa with a bang and anything that is happening is through smaller affiliates like China road and bridges, etc. With time big Mamas may arrive. one is upstream and refining, the other is downstream - where's the synergy? Sinopec deals in both as Puma could have done (Upstream and downstream) Some of these Chinese companies are in Africa and may try to influence African markets both sides than export their raw materials for re-imports. China is in Agola, sudan, owns some blocks in Kenya and others. Puma was looking to buyout KK, not to partner with it. Partnering means KK would have to source from Sinopec only (not allowed because of OTS), so Sinopec would gain on the distribution network and we lose out. Bad deal if you asked me. Meanwhile JKUAT to acquire ICEA building for Sh2 billion http://bit.ly/1BsA2Js means eviction for KK.......
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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Gordon Gekko wrote:Realtreaty wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:Realtreaty wrote:...and what would happen if Sinopec Group partnered with KK? There would be a giant in the room with bags of money that would lead to Total and Vivo energy start trembling. China companies are yet to enter Africa with a bang and anything that is happening is through smaller affiliates like China road and bridges, etc. With time big Mamas may arrive. one is upstream and refining, the other is downstream - where's the synergy? Sinopec deals in both as Puma could have done (Upstream and downstream) Some of these Chinese companies are in Africa and may try to influence African markets both sides than export their raw materials for re-imports. China is in Agola, sudan, owns some blocks in Kenya and others. Puma was looking to buyout KK, not to partner with it. Partnering means KK would have to source from Sinopec only (not allowed because of OTS), so Sinopec would gain on the distribution network and we lose out. Bad deal if you asked me. Meanwhile JKUAT to acquire ICEA building for Sh2 billion http://bit.ly/1BsA2Js means eviction for KK.......  Infact KK is not fit to be in the downtown where Universities are taking up buildings...aka City of Universities" KK is headed where others have moved to Upperhill or Westlands. That is also positive, but it would take over two years to give a vacate notice and also depends on the existing contract with the leasees. Today the Universities are buying towers, tommorow they will be selling them in hurry.
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