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Smallest legal subdivision: Ruiru-Murera 40x60
Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/22/2015 Posts: 61
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Hello Wazuans, Does anyone know what the smallest legal subdivision in Ruiru-Murera is or a document I can find these zoning restrictions? I read in an old post here that with 40x60 you can not get a title deed, yet there are these guys selling claiming to have title deeds for their plots! http://shelta.co.ke/properties/ruiru-by-pass-plots/
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,455
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50 by 100 is the minimum courtesy of Governor Bogs. But if you got your title long ago, no one can stop you from selling your land because it is less than 50 by 100. You can sell and transfer your title. There are fellows who get titles for smaller parcels by greasing some hands but the title will read 50 by 100 (in ha). There is always the word approx before the size after all. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/22/2015 Posts: 61
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MaichBlack wrote:50 by 100 is the minimum courtesy of Governor Bogs.
But if you got your title long ago, no one can stop you from selling your land because it is less than 50 by 100. You can sell and transfer your title.
There are fellows who get titles for smaller parcels by greasing some hands but the title will read 50 by 100 (in ha). There is always the word approx before the size after all. Thank you for the info. These Shelta guys' titles show the size as approx 0.0213ha  . So I bet then the only logical explanation is that they got the titles 'long time ago' for the small parcels they are transferring now.. although my first impression was that its a 'relatively new' (2002) company buying land and subdividing. Any other insights? Only Fools Have No Plan B
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/22/2015 Posts: 61
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lekamu wrote:MaichBlack wrote:50 by 100 is the minimum courtesy of Governor Bogs.
But if you got your title long ago, no one can stop you from selling your land because it is less than 50 by 100. You can sell and transfer your title.
There are fellows who get titles for smaller parcels by greasing some hands but the title will read 50 by 100 (in ha). There is always the word approx before the size after all. Thank you for the info. These Shelta guys' titles show the size as approx 0.0213ha . So I bet then the only logical explanation is that they got the titles 'long time ago' for the small parcels they are transferring now.. although my first impression was that its a 'relatively new' (2002) company buying land and subdividing. Any other insights? For the benefit of other Wazuans, I contacted one of the sales persons for Shelta and 'innocently' informed them that am aware of the embargo on 40x 60 registration. She informed me they already registered the parcels before the new bylaw and already have titles (hence its just transfering as [quote=MaichBlack] mentioned earlier). Moreover, I have stumbled on this document specifying the new regulation on subdivisions in Kiambu county Only Fools Have No Plan B
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/16/2006 Posts: 3 Location: NAIROBI
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MaichBlack wrote:50 by 100 is the minimum courtesy of Governor Bogs.
But if you got your title long ago, no one can stop you from selling your land because it is less than 50 by 100. You can sell and transfer your title.
There are fellows who get titles for smaller parcels by greasing some hands but the title will read 50 by 100 (in ha). There is always the word approx before the size after all. In such case, will the title be valid, out of ignorance
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/22/2011 Posts: 561 Location: House
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Its possible they got the titles before the new directive by Ka-buffalo. I got mine slightly bigger .031Ha ruiru/ruiru east/ block 2/..... about 2km from Ha-kairu. i could sell it to you 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,455
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so wrote:MaichBlack wrote:50 by 100 is the minimum courtesy of Governor Bogs.
But if you got your title long ago, no one can stop you from selling your land because it is less than 50 by 100. You can sell and transfer your title.
There are fellows who get titles for smaller parcels by greasing some hands but the title will read 50 by 100 (in ha). There is always the word approx before the size after all. In such case, will the title be valid, out of ignorance Yes!!! 100% valid. If someone bought a plot when 40 by 60 was a 'legal' size, you don't expect him to get 10 by 40 extra from outer space. Neither do you expect him/her never to sell or transfer the land. After all, you cannot recall the title. Those who grease hands make sure the plot is larger than 40 by 80 but smaller than 50 by 100. It is next to impossible to get away with 40 by 60!! Last year there was a time they were too strict that ANYTHING less than 50 by 100 was not being cleared. I know of companies that had to re - subdivide their land again, have the buyers add more money and look for alternative for the guys who missed. Unless these 40 by 60 fellows got their titles (early) 2013 or earlier, there is something very fishy!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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MaichBlack wrote:so wrote:MaichBlack wrote:50 by 100 is the minimum courtesy of Governor Bogs.
But if you got your title long ago, no one can stop you from selling your land because it is less than 50 by 100. You can sell and transfer your title.
There are fellows who get titles for smaller parcels by greasing some hands but the title will read 50 by 100 (in ha). There is always the word approx before the size after all. In such case, will the title be valid, out of ignorance Yes!!! 100% valid. If someone bought a plot when 40 by 60 was a 'legal' size, you don't expect him to 10 by 40 extra from outer space. Neither do you expect him/her never to sell or transfer the land. After all, you cannot recall the title. Those who grease hands make sure the plot is larger than 40 by 80 but smaller than 50 by 100. It is next to impossible to get away with 40 by 60!! Last year there was a time they were too strict that ANYTHING less than 50 by 100 was not being cleared. I know of companies that had to re - subdivide their land again, have the buyers add more money and look for alternative for the guys who missed. Unless these 40 by 60 fellows got their titles (early) 2013 or earlier, there is something very fishy!!! Very true. If they go it earlier then there is no option, because i've not heard of land amalgamation African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2011 Posts: 391 Location: Nairobi
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What is the going rate for a 40*60 at murera? and how are people getting their plans approved for house construction on this pieces? "You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" - Stephen Wright
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/22/2015 Posts: 61
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Ngogoyo wrote:Its possible they got the titles before the new directive by Ka-buffalo. I got mine slightly bigger .031Ha ruiru/ruiru east/ block 2/..... about 2km from Ha-kairu. i could sell it to you [quote=Ngogoyo] for how much is yours going? Only Fools Have No Plan B
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/20/2015 Posts: 489 Location: Nairobi
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Scientifically; 0.125 acres = 1/8th = 55 feet X 105 feet (or thereabouts) Therefore; 0.0625 acres = 1/2 of 1/8 = 27 feet X 53 feet (or thereabouts) Subject property (based on the copy of title above)= 0.0213 Ha = 0.0526 acres (measures smaller than 1/16th as shown above) Summary: in short am trying to say that if the subject property has the Title shown above, then the plot measures smaller than 40 feet X 60 feet. How such titles were issued should be a concern!! Enjoy every moment of your life, you never know when your time will come.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/22/2011 Posts: 561 Location: House
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Speculz wrote:What is the going rate for a 40*60 at murera? and how are people getting their plans approved for house construction on this pieces? next to a certain secondary school 'st something' about 2km from Thika road. I can sell mine at 1.8m 0.031h 
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/22/2015 Posts: 61
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UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:Scientifically; 0.125 acres = 1/8th = 55 feet X 105 feet (or thereabouts)
Therefore; 0.0625 acres = 1/2 of 1/8 = 27 feet X 53 feet (or thereabouts)
Subject property (based on the copy of title above)= 0.0213 Ha = 0.0526 acres (measures smaller than 1/16th as shown above)
Summary: in short am trying to say that if the subject property has the Title shown above, then the plot measures smaller than 40 feet X 60 feet. How such titles were issued should be a concern!! That's quite some interesting info [quote=UpcomingPaperChaser]. Only Fools Have No Plan B
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:Scientifically; 0.125 acres = 1/8th = 55 feet X 105 feet (or thereabouts)
Therefore; 0.0625 acres = 1/2 of 1/8 = 27 feet X 53 feet (or thereabouts)
Subject property (based on the copy of title above)= 0.0213 Ha = 0.0526 acres (measures smaller than 1/16th as shown above)
Summary: in short am trying to say that if the subject property has the Title shown above, then the plot measures smaller than 40 feet X 60 feet. How such titles were issued should be a concern!! From your calculations, 1/2 of 1/8 should be 27x105, or 55x53, not what you've written.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 830
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What is the average cost of s 50by 100 at Murera...is Ksh 400,000 a rip off? Considering buying there or here http://ruiru.olx.co.ke/g...kshs-only-iid-782716334 which I guess is near murera considering its in ruiru block 4. Is this deal good or bad? I read here http://www.a4architect.c...d-nairobi-2000-to-2013/ that the average return on land around Nairobi is 25% p.a compounded. A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/18/2014 Posts: 1,127
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Ruiru block 4 is not murera it is sandwiched between juja farm and mwalimu farm. The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/21/2006 Posts: 608 Location: Ruiru
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Just a thought...... How comes land in Kenya is officially measured in hectares but when selling and buying area is given in acres and dimensions in feet. Aren't we supposed to be using the SI UNITS? An eith of an acre (0.125 acres) should ideally be approximately 52ft x 104ft (or 15.9m x31.8m) or 0.0506 hectres "..I am because we are. "― Ubuntu, Umtu,
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/21/2006 Posts: 608 Location: Ruiru
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UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:Scientifically; 0.125 acres = 1/8th = 55 feet X 105 feet (or thereabouts)
Therefore; 0.0625 acres = 1/2 of 1/8 = 27 feet X 53 feet (or thereabouts)
Subject property (based on the copy of title above)= 0.0213 Ha = 0.0526 acres (measures smaller than 1/16th as shown above)
Summary: in short am trying to say that if the subject property has the Title shown above, then the plot measures smaller than 40 feet X 60 feet. How such titles were issued should be a concern!! Hesabu haindagi hivio, if you take a rectangle and divide each side by 2 the you'll effectivly end with 4 equal parts. Your conclusion Therefore; 0.0625 acres = 1/2 of 1/8 = 27 feet X 53 feet (or thereabouts) is faulty, you only needed to divide one side by 2. "..I am because we are. "― Ubuntu, Umtu,
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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GGK wrote:UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:Scientifically; 0.125 acres = 1/8th = 55 feet X 105 feet (or thereabouts)
Therefore; 0.0625 acres = 1/2 of 1/8 = 27 feet X 53 feet (or thereabouts)
Subject property (based on the copy of title above)= 0.0213 Ha = 0.0526 acres (measures smaller than 1/16th as shown above)
Summary: in short am trying to say that if the subject property has the Title shown above, then the plot measures smaller than 40 feet X 60 feet. How such titles were issued should be a concern!! Hesabu haindagi hivio, if you take a rectangle and divide each side by 2 the you'll effectivly end with 4 equal parts. Your conclusion Therefore; 0.0625 acres = 1/2 of 1/8 = 27 feet X 53 feet (or thereabouts) is faulty, you only needed to divide one side by 2. True. 50 by 100 is taken to be half of 100 by 100. Paperchaser, too bad they dont teach all these at ADD But even to a layman, imagine you had a paper measuring 100x100cm. Divide it into 2 equal sheets, what are the new dimensions?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Lolest! wrote:GGK wrote:UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:Scientifically; 0.125 acres = 1/8th = 55 feet X 105 feet (or thereabouts)
Therefore; 0.0625 acres = 1/2 of 1/8 = 27 feet X 53 feet (or thereabouts)
Subject property (based on the copy of title above)= 0.0213 Ha = 0.0526 acres (measures smaller than 1/16th as shown above)
Summary: in short am trying to say that if the subject property has the Title shown above, then the plot measures smaller than 40 feet X 60 feet. How such titles were issued should be a concern!! Hesabu haindagi hivio, if you take a rectangle and divide each side by 2 the you'll effectivly end with 4 equal parts. Your conclusion Therefore; 0.0625 acres = 1/2 of 1/8 = 27 feet X 53 feet (or thereabouts) is faulty, you only needed to divide one side by 2. True. 50 by 100 is taken to be half of 100 by 100. Paperchaser, too bad they dont teach all these at ADD But even to a layman, imagine you had a paper measuring 100x100cm. Divide it into 2 equal sheets, what are the new dimensions? I still get a 100x100 triangle Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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