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kysse
#31 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 12:51:16 AM
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kiterunner wrote:
What about the children of single mothers? Obviously no dowry was paid for the mothers....


I happened to witness one,where the mother had passed on and left the daughter.It's btwn a luhya and kyuk and more complicated than cord and jubilee mixed together.
The girl is required to 'racia'on behalf of her mum,not full dowry, but a token given back to wazees to clear the 'hurdle' before dowry for the girl can be accepted.
In short she pays for her mother.
pls correct me if I got it wrong..
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sheri
#32 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 1:13:44 AM
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kysse wrote:
kiterunner wrote:
What about the children of single mothers? Obviously no dowry was paid for the mothers....


I happened to witness one,where the mother had passed on and left the daughter.It's btwn a luhya and kyuk and more complicated than cord and jubilee mixed together.
The girl is required to 'racia'on behalf of her mum,not full dowry, but a token given back to wazees to clear the 'hurdle' before dowry for the girl can be accepted.
In short she pays for her mother.
pls correct me if I got it wrong..

You are not wrong most families donot complicate matters for the girls. Even 5k is enough to clear the 'hurdle' @kysee call them generational curses.
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kysse
#33 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 1:41:03 AM
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sheri wrote:
kysse wrote:
kiterunner wrote:
What about the children of single mothers? Obviously no dowry was paid for the mothers....


I happened to witness one,where the mother had passed on and left the daughter.It's btwn a luhya and kyuk and more complicated than cord and jubilee mixed together.
The girl is required to 'racia'on behalf of her mum,not full dowry, but a token given back to wazees to clear the 'hurdle' before dowry for the girl can be accepted.
In short she pays for her mother.
pls correct me if I got it wrong..

You are not wrong most families donot complicate matters for the girls. Even 5k is enough to clear the 'hurdle' @kysee call them generational curses.


Infact they asked for apprx 5k asijipee stress.
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kiterunner
#34 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 2:12:12 AM
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IMO opinion dowry and FGM are on the same level. Very outdated practices.

Having said that I know I dont have a choice today
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sheri
#35 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 2:40:40 AM
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kiterunner wrote:
IMO opinion dowry and FGM are on the same level. Very outdated practices.

Having said that I know I dont have a choice today

@kiterunner you have a choice not to get married
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YoungMulla
#36 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 12:48:39 PM
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Motomoto wrote:
kenmac wrote:
I have searched the internet for comprehensive information regarding kikuyu dowry rules, and the web is getting smaller because the websites have just copy pasted from each other.

I need to know; Suppose a man did not pay dowry for his wife. In this scenario, it is against the customs and traditions for the man to receive dowry when one of his daughters is getting married. What does the culture say about a son marrying. Can the son give dowry to his fiance's family, or must the dad clear with the grandparents?

I need the help from wazua kikuyu elders.

If you do not follow some of these traditional practices, they will come to haunt you later on. Culture is very important in as much as we have become westernized..


How true are these generational curses. Anyone have an example???
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Swenani
#37 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 1:00:05 PM
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YoungMulla wrote:
Motomoto wrote:
kenmac wrote:
I have searched the internet for comprehensive information regarding kikuyu dowry rules, and the web is getting smaller because the websites have just copy pasted from each other.

I need to know; Suppose a man did not pay dowry for his wife. In this scenario, it is against the customs and traditions for the man to receive dowry when one of his daughters is getting married. What does the culture say about a son marrying. Can the son give dowry to his fiance's family, or must the dad clear with the grandparents?

I need the help from wazua kikuyu elders.

If you do not follow some of these traditional practices, they will come to haunt you later on. Culture is very important in as much as we have become westernized..


How true are these generational curses. Anyone have an example???


Mawinder is a good example
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nakujua
#38 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 1:21:07 PM
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YoungMulla wrote:
Motomoto wrote:
kenmac wrote:
I have searched the internet for comprehensive information regarding kikuyu dowry rules, and the web is getting smaller because the websites have just copy pasted from each other.

I need to know; Suppose a man did not pay dowry for his wife. In this scenario, it is against the customs and traditions for the man to receive dowry when one of his daughters is getting married. What does the culture say about a son marrying. Can the son give dowry to his fiance's family, or must the dad clear with the grandparents?

I need the help from wazua kikuyu elders.

If you do not follow some of these traditional practices, they will come to haunt you later on. Culture is very important in as much as we have become westernized..


How true are these generational curses. Anyone have an example???

Sad we still believe in these - I thought these are stuff pastors use as a marketing gimmick to shika the gullible
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Tebes
#39 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 1:30:54 PM
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Will this ever happen in the a Kenyan marriage??

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A family in Lagos, Nigeria, provide a refreshing contrast. Their son-in-law, Dele, explains:

"My wife's family relieved me of many of the expenses that go with the traditional bride-price ceremony, such as buying expensive changes of clothing. Even when my family presented the bride-price to them, their spokesperson asked: 'Do you want to take this girl as a wife or as a daughter?' Together my family replied: 'We want to take her as a daughter.' After that, the bride-price was returned to us in the same envelope.
"Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
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Ms Mkenya
#40 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 3:09:33 PM
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@Guka, what happens when a guy wants to marry after divorce from the first wife? Is it different for a lady?
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