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Asset Bubble of Epic Propotions
kebaya
#1 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:50:40 PM
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China’s currency reserves grew by more than the gross domestic product of Norway in 2009. Its $2.4 trillion of reserves is a bubble all its own, one growing before our eyes with nary a peep out of those searching for the next big one.

The reserve bubble is actually an Asia-wide phenomenon. And we should stop viewing this monetary arms race as a source of strength. Here are three reasons why it’s fast becoming a bigger liability than policy makers say publicly.

One, it’s a massive and growing pyramid scheme. The issue has reached new levels of absurdity with traders buzzing about crisis-plagued Greece seeking a Chinese bailout. After all, if economies were for sale, China could use the $453 billion of reserves it amassed last year to buy Greece and Vietnam and have enough left over for Mongolia.

Countries such as the U.S. used to woo the Bill Grosses of the world to buy their debt. Now they are wooing governments. Gross, who runs the world’s biggest mutual fund at Pacific Investment Management Co., is still plenty important to officials in Washington. He’s just not as vital as the continued patronage of state asset managers in places like Beijing.

Next Step

You have to wonder what folks at the International Monetary Fund are thinking these days. Their aid packages tend to come with messy requirements, such as “get your economy in order.” China’s are merely about scoring resources or geopolitical points. We have already seen China throw lifelines to Wall Street giants, including Morgan Stanley. Entire countries seem like the natural next step.

China’s huge arsenal of reserves is increasing its global influence. The trouble is, China is trapped in an arrangement of its own making. As China and other Asian nations buy more and more U.S. Treasuries, it becomes harder to unload them without causing huge capital losses. And so they keep adding to them.

“This is a titanically large foreign-exchange trade,” says David Simmonds, London-based analyst at Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc. “It’s the biggest one history has ever seen and there’s nowhere for these reserves to go.”

China aims to diversify out of U.S. Treasuries into other assets and commodities. The question that governments are grappling with is which markets are deep enough to absorb China’s riches? Gold? Oil? Euro-area debt? The Madoff family’s next Ponzi scheme?

Ending Badly

The challenge for China alone is like trying to park an Airbus A-380 super-jumbo in a Volkswagen. Like all pyramid schemes, there’s no easy end in sight and things could end badly. If the dollar collapses, panicked selling by central banks looking to limit losses would shake global markets more than the U.S. credit crisis has.

Two, reserves are dead money. The wisdom of currency stockpiling came from the chaos of 1997. Speculators sensed authorities in Thailand were sitting on few reserves, and they were right. Their attack on the Thai baht set the stage for an Asian meltdown. Governments spent the 2000s determined not to repeat the mistake.

Asian economies have too much of a good thing on their hands. In July 2007, on the 10th anniversary of Thailand’s devaluation, Asian Development Bank President Haruhiko Kuroda said the accelerating accumulation of reserves was a major concern for the region. Too bad nobody listened to him.

Vast Sums

These huge sums of money could be used to improve infrastructure, education, health care and reducing carbon emissions. Never before have we seen such a misallocation of such vast resources. Asia can do better with its money.

Three, reserves add to overheating risks. When policy makers buy dollars, they need to sell local currency, increasing its availability and boosting the money supply. Next they sell bonds to mop up excess money in economies. It’s an imprecise science that often leads to accelerating inflation. The strategy works out to be an expensive one.

The stakes are rising fast. The risks in Asia are skewed firmly in the direction of inflation. The focus is now on central banks to see if they will pull liquidity out of economies with higher interest rates. More attention should be on how reserve management is working at odds with that goal.

Central banks face a difficult task. They must withdraw excess liquidity without devastating their economies and running afoul of politicians. Only now is Asia finding out how some of its economic-protection tactics are amplifying the challenge.

Asia has been holding down currencies to support exports for more than a decade. It’s silly to ignore the side effects of that strategy for the region’s economies.

Think about how Dubai shook the global economy, or how the mere hint that Chinese growth may dip below 8 percent inspires panic. These disappointments pale in comparison with the turbulence that may come from Asia’s biggest bubble popping

http://www.bloomberg.com...039&sid=a4mPCXeGTl4Y
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VituVingiSana
#2 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:29:25 PM
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If China dumps US$... we will see a huge rise in value of the Yuan & drop in US$ value.

For Kenya this may hurt since we import (too much) from China but our exports are primarily in US$. Oil will also rise in price thus negating any benefits from the US$ devaluation.
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Wakanyugi
#3 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2010 7:15:11 AM
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@Vitu-mob: If China dumps US$, the equivalent of declaring economic nuclear war, Kenya and the rest of the world will have bigger things to worry about than the price of oil and imports. Think the mother of all depressions, for instance or worse, a total collapse of the global capitalist system.

The writer of this article is right on the money (no pun intended). Such obscene reserves can not end well for China, the US and, by extension, the world economy. For instance watch as China exports bubbles in the commodities and acquisitions markets as she(he?) attempts to buy access to needed raw materials and technology.

The sad thing is we have been here before - does anyone remember Japan Inc?
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the sage
#4 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:58:15 AM
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I am reading a book, "Web of Debt: The Shocking Truth About Our Money System - The Sleight of Hand That Has Trapped Us in Debt and How We Can Break Free."-Ellen Hodgson Brown. I have not yet finished it but if there is truth in it we are screwed because the ability of the US to pay back interest on debt is at its end.
The interesting thing is that some economists foresaw the meltdown very many years ago but they were shrugged of.

kebaya
#5 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:08:39 AM
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I really loved this article. This debt comes from the Derivatives Market. Warren Buffet calls them the Real Weapons of Mass Destruction.
The following numbers will prove why. Only God can save the world from all the debt.

The real debt is actually $ 14 QUADRILLION DOLLARS!!!!!!! Everyone in the world is born with a debt of $ 206 000!!

"The traditional argument has been to discount derivatives altogether: “On one side of the equation there is a loss, on the other side there is a gain. Nothing disappears. It is just one big shuffle of wealth and assets.” However, if this is the case, why has the US tax-payer had to bail out AIG repeatedly in excess of a hundred and fifty billion dollars so that AIG could settle the Credit Default Swap (CDS) and other derivatives claims of the largest trans-national financial institutions in the world?

In the ATCA briefing, "The Invisible One Quadrillion Dollar Equation" published in September 2008 we discussed the main categories of the quadrillion dollar derivatives market as quoted by the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland. Since then the quantum has grown significantly in certain crucial categories and the latest revised numbers follow:

1. Listed credit derivatives stood at USD 542 trillion, about the same as before; however

2. Over-The-Counter (OTC) derivatives stood in notional or face value at USD 863 trillion (UP +44%) and include:

a. Interest Rate Derivatives at about USD 458+ trillion (UP +16%);
b. Credit Default Swaps at about USD 57+ trillion (DOWN -1%);
c. Foreign Exchange Derivatives at about USD 62+ trillion (UP +10%);
d. Commodity Derivatives at about USD 13+ trillion (UP +44%);
e. Equity Linked Derivatives at about USD 10+ trillion (UP +17%); and
f. Unallocated Derivatives at about USD 81+ trillion (UP +14%).

The myth of the single bubble behind The Great Unwind -- manifest as the global credit crunch -- has essentially been dumped in the last few months and subprime mortgage default, a USD 1.5 trillion challenge within the USD 5 trillion mortgage based assets envelope, is seen as a component of a much larger overwhelming global crisis with unprecedented scale, speed, severity and synchronicity. The global crisis has wiped a staggering USD 50 trillion off the value of financial assets — currency, equity and bond markets worldwide — last year, according to the Asian Development Bank."

read more here

http://economicedge.blog...4-quadrillion-up-22.html
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Scubidu
#6 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:10:14 PM
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@ the sage.

I have read the book and it's a must for you to finish it-she hits every note. It's the same situation in Kenya cos we use the same system...have a closer look at the interest on our debt (and our system is only 50 yrs old compared to US & UK). Ellen Brown correctly notes that most of the banks in China are own by the government that's how they have survived the interest issue.

Everything is inter-linked from a macro-perspective, globally, so if we know what to look for we too can make our own predictions (which excites me). Like in Kenya, most Americans don't have access to info or data (like the book Web of Debt); so most aren't concerned with the core problem. But I think the book deals very well with the economics of money and all its effects on our environment.
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Scubidu
#7 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:12:16 PM
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Contrarian analyst Marc Fabor gives his ever-unique perspective on the US sovereign rating, national debt, Fed policy, real estate market and the Chinese economy.

Click on the link below to see the video:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/faber/faber46.1.html
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
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