I didn't know that peaceful and respectful conversation is futile.

Hurting from what? Lol. Put down the bong and say no to drugs.

No offence meant, muriel. But would Hamburglar have any other reason for his style?

Then ask yourself this question, if logic and respect for others is the key, why is it that now when Man is scientific and logical atheism is at its height, amidst the confusion around.

Because logic alone is an ocean of words. Explanation and definition running without end, till there's nothing to be said.

Just because we do some work in the slums every now and then does not mean that the slums will now become sparkling you nitwit. You religious people are so exhausting. We buy food, take it to slums, participate jn clean up and other activities, not becuase we are miracle workers, but because every little help makes some sort of difference in somebody's life in the slums. We have never said that we are there to transform Kibera into Beverly Hills, it's not a competition, it's just doing whatever you can do to help that next person. That to me is better than going to church to,listen to the performing artist also known as the pastor talking about a lot of nonsense and worshiping a nonexistent god. Honestly, religion is very much like madness.

Listen, when i go to the slums, i know that at least i was able to feed one kid even if it was just for one day. Am not doing it for accolades, am doing it because there is a need. Every little bit helps. Haba na haba hujaza kibaba. If one day we leave the slums "sparkling", then that will be a good day, a great day actually, but until then, we will try our level best to play the hands that we have been dealt. Try to reason sometime, it doesn't hurt.

Instead of pouring scorn on our efforts to help the slums one day "sparkle", why don't you join in, buy some food this coming Sunday and just drive by one the many slums in Kenya and hand it over to a few kids? That is what would qualify as a "sparkling" thing to do, you dumbass. Or you could just bury your head in the sand and go to church to hear about how some mythical guy walked on water and then drive by the slims later and act like it's none of your business seeing starving kids beg for some change. Your choice.

If logic is key, and indeed I see it's importance, there must be another key. For there's another door. The 'psychological'.

Am I fighting a foreign or unwanted idea in my mind, as ufanisi is saying? Why do I respond to atheism the way I do? If am defending then everything is unclear. When everything is clear, then defense is unnecessary. If you consider how the human mind develops, then it's apt to be very defensive. There are always more questions than answers. And the few answers we have are emotionally laden.

So, it would be only reasonable to say that any true and valid philosophy, or world view, should be beyond the hold of pain and pleasure. The quality of logical statements is conditional. Associations go beyond logic.