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Form One Selection 2015
streetwise
#131 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:30:16 PM
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Here people are talking about statics instead of talking about individual kids. What if Obama, Uh, etc were denied admission because they were ABC. Would they be the leaders you now admire

No one should be denied an opportunity...lets create more space.
chiaroscuro
#132 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:35:27 PM
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streetwise wrote:
Here people are talking about statics instead of talking about individual kids. What if Obama, Uh, etc were denied admission because they were ABC. Would they be the leaders you now admire

No one should be denied an opportunity...lets create more space.


Gov policy is based on overall statistics, not individual pupils.

Parents policy is based on individual pupils - their children.
chiaroscuro
#133 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:38:22 PM
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Wazuans are business-minded people. Why hasn't anyone seen the business opportunity in secondary education?

We have many private primary schools, and many private universities & colleges. There is a miss-match in the middle!

Are there strategic barriers?

There appears to be a large untapped market....
chiaroscuro
#134 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:55:07 PM
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From the MoE website.....there IS a system....

Form One Intake Process
The Form One Intake entails the admission into either National, County or District Day Schools depending on the Candidate's School Choices captured during the year the candidate sat for KCPE. National Schools distribute both based on candidature and affirmative action thus enabling the each district to get a candidate selected to a National School. The National School Quota is used to select candidates per Gender and Merit List per District. Cut-Off to each National School is automatically determined based on the last Candidate to be Selected to a given National Schools from a Given District in a County. Couty Schools are Selected on a 40% (National): 40% (to Districts within County and Inclusive Home District of the School): 20% (for Home/Host District of the School). Not all County Schools Can attract National Quota and may be allocated quotas to only Districts within host County. Plans for District Selection are under-way expected to be pilotted in 2014 In-take.

Selection Procedure
The Computerised selection follows the following steps: 1) Selection of Top 1 and 2, for both Gender (boys and girls) to their national school choices if an allocation has been provided for their District. In absence, the computer assign such performing candidates schools of equivalent stature to their choices; 2) Selection of Other National Schools Quota based on Candidates ratio from Public and Private; 3) System gives advantage to Counties inclusive of host County in filling vacancies which may arrise during the selection (such as in ability of certail Districts to produce candidates with more or equal to 280 marks); 4) Selection of Extra-County Schools which have same features as National Schools with variance being the number of candidates to be picked being more within the host Counties of the schools; 5) County Schools purely selects students within a County, all boarding schools fall under this category; 6) District Selection: still done manually due to challenges of mapping primary schools or communities to promixity of secondary day schools.

Outcome of Selection
It is expected that the selection results shall be accessed Online on this portal by the public and the successful candidates. For unsuccessful cases, they can also get feedback on their application based on the Quotas already computed soon to be shared and shown on this portal.
Muriel
#135 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:06:44 PM
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nakujua wrote:
Muriel wrote:


I am wondering; the curriculum is the same and all the teachers are from KU ,,,,, (OK, I know from local universities).

I would look at other things e.g. co-curricular activities, spirituality etc. Some, a few, private secondary schools are good.

smile
its weird that co-curricular activities are not factored in the final results, I think it would be fair if there was a way to factor that in.

but all the fiasco is happening because of our continual acceptance and encouraging the clear discrimination of kids based on a single exam, and our insistence on segregating them, and for a long time it has been satisfactory for most of us who have a voice in the society, since our kids did not have much competition from the others and the plates at the table were fitting in well.

but we are growing and we have failed to ensure that the resources (prestigious national schools) grow at the same rate and we now have a scenario where our plates can not fit at the main table and our attempt at increasing the tables has been pathetic at best, since the other are worn out, broken and the serving available is not as palatable as that on the high table.

demand has outstripped supply and now we are fighting it out and the war is brutal.



chiaroscuro wrote:
Wazuans are business-minded people. Why hasn't anyone seen the business opportunity in secondary education?

We have many private primary schools, and many private universities & colleges. There is a miss-match in the middle!

Are there strategic barriers?

There appears to be a large untapped market....


Yes.

This is an untapped market. If private secondary schools up their game they might turn tables on public secondary schools.

For example, if they could ensure that their graduands actually do something with their lives.

Getting teenagers of that age to stop bumming around in the estate is difficult, I agree, but if a proprietor can make, and show that his graduands actually can 'do' something besides applying and waiting to go to university, word will surely get around by mouth about that school and that will be the beginning of another story.
nakujua
#136 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:09:31 PM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Here people are talking about statics instead of talking about individual kids. What if Obama, Uh, etc were denied admission because they were ABC. Would they be the leaders you now admire

No one should be denied an opportunity...lets create more space.


Gov policy is based on overall statistics, not individual pupils.

Parents policy is based on individual pupils - their children.

Twitter has created a lazy media, they do not care to do leg work this days.
limanika
#137 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:19:43 PM
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If the ministry is turning a deaf ear, why can't some MP or senator draft a bill to create some policy guidelines on this matter and that of ranking? Why were they elected? Even committee on education is still mum?
Angelica _ann
#138 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:33:48 PM
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limanika wrote:
If the ministry is turning a deaf ear, why can't some MP or senator draft a bill to create some policy guidelines on this matter and that of ranking? Why were they elected? Even committee on education is still mum?

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MaichBlack
#139 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:51:34 PM
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limanika wrote:
If the ministry is turning a deaf ear, why can't some MP or senator draft a bill to create some policy guidelines on this matter and that of ranking? Why were they elected? Even committee on education is still mum?

There is an MP who has said he will draft one. I did not get his name though.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Angelica _ann
#140 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2015 9:10:01 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
limanika wrote:
If the ministry is turning a deaf ear, why can't some MP or senator draft a bill to create some policy guidelines on this matter and that of ranking? Why were they elected? Even committee on education is still mum?

There is an MP who has said he will draft one. I did not get his name though.

Keep watching & waiting. Let us compare notes next year. Nothing would have changed. This is Kenya .
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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