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JCC's Pastor Kathy Kiuna
MaichBlack
#41 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:20:59 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
Let not the devil misled you. Our pastor needs respect

Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#42 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:22:45 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,911
Tokyo wrote:
Let not the devil misled you. Our pastor needs respect

From whom??? From (some of) us???

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Not gonna happen! The thing is, we have brains. And (the best part) we use them!!!

I have never understood how people who claim to educated get brainwashed just like that. People can't even differentiate between a human being and God. The are made to believe that challenging or questioning the pastor (man/woman of God, Baba/Mama, Apostle, Prophet, Bishop or whatever name they choose) is challenging God. Seriously? How stupid does one have to be to believe such load of crap.

I listened to a sermon by Bishop J.B. Masinde of Deliverance church on church leadership and accountability and it was just lovely. Some of these brainwashed fellows should listen to it. I will try to look for the video and post it here. But for the brain washed it might be too late. They never listen.

The message from J.B. was that ALL church leaders should be accountable. Church should be separated from pastors/bishops etc. Church money, property etc. should be in the church's name. And the church should be a totally INDEPENDENT entity. Not one where the signatories are the pastor/bishop and his wife, making mockery of the whole system. The pastor should be on a publicly known salary! Sio kuchukua chukua pesa ya kanisa vile kichwa yake inamwambia. Books of accounts should be available for any church member to go through.

He also told his congregation the obvious. Miracles are FREE. God does not need a bribe from you to give you your miracle. The only currency needed is faith. If you need anything from God, just pray. And have faith. Offerings are to support the work the church is doing and your miracles are not dependent on you giving/not giving and/or how much you give!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Muriel
#43 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:31:56 AM
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Joined: 11/19/2009
Posts: 3,142
Lolest! wrote:
Poor Joseph, Mary and Jesus.

If they had been Nairobians, they'd be residents of K-South or Zimmer or suchlike.

Never would they gain acceptance in such a 'posh' church.

Yet we know they were poor. This is how we know Joseph was not some rich or middo krass carpenter

Leviticus 12 lays down the process of purification after birth
Quote:
“‘When the days of her purification for a son or daughter are over, she is to bring to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting a year-old lamb for a burnt offering and a young pigeon or a dove for a sin offering.[a] 7 He shall offer them before the Lord to make atonement for her, and then she will be ceremonially clean from her flow of blood.

“‘These are the regulations for the woman who gives birth to a boy or a girl. 8 But if she cannot afford a lamb, she is to bring two doves or two young pigeons, one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering. In this way the priest will make atonement for her, and she will be clean.’”


In Luke chapter 2, after the birth of Jesus:
Quote:
When the time came for the purification rites required by the Law of Moses, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord 23 (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, “Every firstborn male is to be consecrated to the Lord”[b]), 24 and to offer a sacrifice in keeping with what is said in the Law of the Lord: “a pair of doves or two young pigeons.”


Jehova Witnesses are despised yet they say God's Government will bring peace and prosperity in the whole earth and we can all enjoy it as the good pastor and her husband currently are.

The sheeple have been trained to protect the shepherd.

I say Jehova Witnesses are more than we think there are. That is good. We don't have to be one by formal application and registration, after all.

freiks
#44 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:37:38 AM
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Kwani hakuna video ya hii allegations
Life is an endless adventure
Siringi
#45 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:22:47 AM
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"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
Atalaku
#46 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:25:44 AM
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Location: Kenya
Toa ndugu, toa dada...

Atalaku
#47 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:27:20 AM
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Location: Kenya
Why do pastors tell us to give offering and tithes to bless the pass and God will bless us. Why cant they ask God to bless them directly!!!
Am
#48 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:32:14 AM
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freiks wrote:
Kwani hakuna video ya hii allegations


@Freiks. Video is KTN 9am every Sunday..
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
Impunity
#49 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:50:16 AM
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Location: Masada
Am wrote:
freiks wrote:
Kwani hakuna video ya hii allegations


@Freiks. Video is KTN 9am every Sunday..


Kwanza hizo ni Live, sio recordings kama ya @Keter.
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Am
#50 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:55:21 AM
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Impunity wrote:
Am wrote:
freiks wrote:
Kwani hakuna video ya hii allegations


@Freiks. Video is KTN 9am every Sunday..


Kwanza hizo ni Live, sio recordings kama ya @Keter.



There you nGO..
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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