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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,589
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Tokyo wrote:Let not the devil misled you. Our pastor needs respect Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,589
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Tokyo wrote:Let not the devil misled you. Our pastor needs respect From whom??? From (some of) us???  Not gonna happen! The thing is, we have brains. And (the best part) we use them!!! I have never understood how people who claim to educated get brainwashed just like that. People can't even differentiate between a human being and God. The are made to believe that challenging or questioning the pastor (man/woman of God, Baba/Mama, Apostle, Prophet, Bishop or whatever name they choose) is challenging God. Seriously? How stupid does one have to be to believe such load of crap. I listened to a sermon by Bishop J.B. Masinde of Deliverance church on church leadership and accountability and it was just lovely. Some of these brainwashed fellows should listen to it. I will try to look for the video and post it here. But for the brain washed it might be too late. They never listen. The message from J.B. was that ALL church leaders should be accountable. Church should be separated from pastors/bishops etc. Church money, property etc. should be in the church's name. And the church should be a totally INDEPENDENT entity. Not one where the signatories are the pastor/bishop and his wife, making mockery of the whole system. The pastor should be on a publicly known salary! Sio kuchukua chukua pesa ya kanisa vile kichwa yake inamwambia. Books of accounts should be available for any church member to go through. He also told his congregation the obvious. Miracles are FREE. God does not need a bribe from you to give you your miracle. The only currency needed is faith. If you need anything from God, just pray. And have faith. Offerings are to support the work the church is doing and your miracles are not dependent on you giving/not giving and/or how much you give!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Lolest! wrote:Poor Joseph, Mary and Jesus. If they had been Nairobians, they'd be residents of K-South or Zimmer or suchlike. Never would they gain acceptance in such a 'posh' church. Yet we know they were poor. This is how we know Joseph was not some rich or middo krass carpenter Leviticus 12 lays down the process of purification after birth Quote:“‘When the days of her purification for a son or daughter are over, she is to bring to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting a year-old lamb for a burnt offering and a young pigeon or a dove for a sin offering.[a] 7 He shall offer them before the Lord to make atonement for her, and then she will be ceremonially clean from her flow of blood.
“‘These are the regulations for the woman who gives birth to a boy or a girl. 8 But if she cannot afford a lamb, she is to bring two doves or two young pigeons, one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering. In this way the priest will make atonement for her, and she will be clean.’” In Luke chapter 2, after the birth of Jesus: Quote: When the time came for the purification rites required by the Law of Moses, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord 23 (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, “Every firstborn male is to be consecrated to the Lord”[b]), 24 and to offer a sacrifice in keeping with what is said in the Law of the Lord: “a pair of doves or two young pigeons.” Jehova Witnesses are despised yet they say God's Government will bring peace and prosperity in the whole earth and we can all enjoy it as the good pastor and her husband currently are. The sheeple have been trained to protect the shepherd. I say Jehova Witnesses are more than we think there are. That is good. We don't have to be one by formal application and registration, after all.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,732
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Kwani hakuna video ya hii allegations Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 1,063 Location: Kenya
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Toa ndugu, toa dada... 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 1,063 Location: Kenya
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Why do pastors tell us to give offering and tithes to bless the pass and God will bless us. Why cant they ask God to bless them directly!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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freiks wrote:Kwani hakuna video ya hii allegations @Freiks. Video is KTN 9am every Sunday.. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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Am wrote:freiks wrote:Kwani hakuna video ya hii allegations @Freiks. Video is KTN 9am every Sunday.. Kwanza hizo ni Live, sio recordings kama ya @Keter. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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Impunity wrote:Am wrote:freiks wrote:Kwani hakuna video ya hii allegations @Freiks. Video is KTN 9am every Sunday.. Kwanza hizo ni Live, sio recordings kama ya @Keter. There you nGO.. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,589
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,589
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And that's their Runda home. They have another one in Karen. One home in Nairobi is not enough when the congregation insist on giving more and more to mummy and daddy (Never mind some of them are older than the said mummy and daddy!!!). Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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kiterunner wrote:thuks wrote:She was simply motivating. I once went to one and we were told to repeat a certain verse: " I am fearfully and wonderfully made". there is always someone ready to justify anything however crass, in this case the honour is yours  lol lol lol I care!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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That hose looks like a big hotel. How do someone catch a sleep in such a big house? The gardener could be eating your wifi in some far flung spare room while you are busy entertaining the teenage mad in some underground garage without each others knowledge! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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MaichBlack wrote:And that's their Runda home.
They have another one in Karen. One home in Nairobi is not enough when the congregation insist on giving more and more to mummy and daddy (Never mind some of them are older than the said mummy and daddy!!!). Looks more like a 5 star hotel not a home. It is immoral to live such a lifestyle when some of those that 'Feed you' forego basic needs in life. Shindwe!! Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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We talk about Pharisees in the bible...and then we see them. Shiver me timbers. Quote: Luke 21:1-4New International Version (NIV)
The Widow’s Offering
21 As Jesus looked up, he saw the rich putting their gifts into the temple treasury. 2 He also saw a poor widow put in two very small copper coins. 3 “Truly I tell you,” he said, “this poor widow has put in more than all the others. 4 All these people gave their gifts out of their wealth; but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on.” Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 1,063 Location: Kenya
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MaichBlack wrote:And that's their Runda home.
They have another one in Karen. One home in Nairobi is not enough when the congregation insist on giving more and more to mummy and daddy (Never mind some of them are older than the said mummy and daddy!!!). ...went to the church compound two weeks ago to pick a Diasporan who had gone to worship there. As I was driving in I met so many poor looking souls on foot going catch matatus... So that riff-raff is not being entertained in the church anymore?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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When you choose to outsource your brain, you make a sovereign valid choice. Willing buyer willing seller. Live and let live, live and let die.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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Atalaku wrote:MaichBlack wrote:And that's their Runda home.
They have another one in Karen. One home in Nairobi is not enough when the congregation insist on giving more and more to mummy and daddy (Never mind some of them are older than the said mummy and daddy!!!). ...went to the church compound two weeks ago to pick a Diasporan who had gone to worship there. As I was driving in I met so many poor looking souls on foot going catch matatus... So that riff-raff is not being entertained in the church anymore? ..Bro be man and say you are a member who has seen light today. Those lies of going to Pick I don't Know Diasporians is lies.  Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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Am wrote:Atalaku wrote:MaichBlack wrote:And that's their Runda home.
They have another one in Karen. One home in Nairobi is not enough when the congregation insist on giving more and more to mummy and daddy (Never mind some of them are older than the said mummy and daddy!!!). ...went to the church compound two weeks ago to pick a Diasporan who had gone to worship there. As I was driving in I met so many poor looking souls on foot going catch matatus... So that riff-raff is not being entertained in the church anymore? ..Bro be man and say you are a member who has seen light today. Those lies of going to Pick I don't Know Diasporians is lies. Taking cassavas as tithe... Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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