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Swenani
#11 Posted : Thursday, January 08, 2015 8:12:20 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
Othelo wrote:
You need to read Luo kitgi kod timbegi to understand some of these shinnanigans (sp).

Chasing away death is there in majority of ATH&C! The luo version is Tero Buru which can be done before or after burial depending on age and status of the deceased!


Good points

It might also help to point out that such 'robust' confrontation of death is not a uniquely Luo phenomenon. It is something shared widely across Africa (Achebe, Amadi etc) wrote about this quite a bit.

Some communities were quite extreme in this, where for instance, the homestead where death has visited is destroyed, or - rare - animals or even young men and women are sacrificed to 'escort' a Chief who has died.


I propose we sacrifice Lady admin to escort Fidel!
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McReggae
#12 Posted : Thursday, January 08, 2015 11:18:52 AM
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Swenani wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Othelo wrote:
You need to read Luo kitgi kod timbegi to understand some of these shinnanigans (sp).

Chasing away death is there in majority of ATH&C! The luo version is Tero Buru which can be done before or after burial depending on age and status of the deceased!


Good points

It might also help to point out that such 'robust' confrontation of death is not a uniquely Luo phenomenon. It is something shared widely across Africa (Achebe, Amadi etc) wrote about this quite a bit.

Some communities were quite extreme in this, where for instance, the homestead where death has visited is destroyed, or - rare - animals or even young men and women are sacrificed to 'escort' a Chief who has died.


I propose we sacrifice Lady admin to escort Fidel!


Asi!

As has been explain up there, a prominent person gets 'tero buru before and after burial.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Wakanyugi
#13 Posted : Thursday, January 08, 2015 11:22:28 AM
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Swenani wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Othelo wrote:
You need to read Luo kitgi kod timbegi to understand some of these shinnanigans (sp).

Chasing away death is there in majority of ATH&C! The luo version is Tero Buru which can be done before or after burial depending on age and status of the deceased!


Good points

It might also help to point out that such 'robust' confrontation of death is not a uniquely Luo phenomenon. It is something shared widely across Africa (Achebe, Amadi etc) wrote about this quite a bit.

Some communities were quite extreme in this, where for instance, the homestead where death has visited is destroyed, or - rare - animals or even young men and women are sacrificed to 'escort' a Chief who has died.


I propose we sacrifice Lady admin to escort Fidel!


I think the normal practice was to sacrifice a maiden. Could we offer Kysse?

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Othelo
#14 Posted : Thursday, January 08, 2015 12:26:48 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Othelo wrote:
You need to read Luo kitgi kod timbegi to understand some of these shinnanigans (sp).

Chasing away death is there in majority of ATH&C! The luo version is Tero Buru which can be done before or after burial depending on age and status of the deceased!


Good points

It might also help to point out that such 'robust' confrontation of death is not a uniquely Luo phenomenon. It is something shared widely across Africa (Achebe, Amadi etc) wrote about this quite a bit.

Some communities were quite extreme in this, where for instance, the homestead where death has visited is destroyed, or - rare - animals or even young men and women are sacrificed to 'escort' a Chief who has died.


I propose we sacrifice Lady admin to escort Fidel!


I think the normal practice was to sacrifice a maiden. Could we offer Kysse?


I hear (gossip world) that he enjoyed ......... so could we sacrifice @swenani for the good of wazua to be blessed!!!!
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Wakanyugi
#15 Posted : Thursday, January 08, 2015 2:19:50 PM
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Othelo wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Othelo wrote:
You need to read Luo kitgi kod timbegi to understand some of these shinnanigans (sp).

Chasing away death is there in majority of ATH&C! The luo version is Tero Buru which can be done before or after burial depending on age and status of the deceased!


Good points

It might also help to point out that such 'robust' confrontation of death is not a uniquely Luo phenomenon. It is something shared widely across Africa (Achebe, Amadi etc) wrote about this quite a bit.

Some communities were quite extreme in this, where for instance, the homestead where death has visited is destroyed, or - rare - animals or even young men and women are sacrificed to 'escort' a Chief who has died.


I propose we sacrifice Lady admin to escort Fidel!


I think the normal practice was to sacrifice a maiden. Could we offer Kysse?


I hear (gossip world) that he enjoyed ......... so could we sacrifice @swenani for the good of wazua to be blesse
d!!!!


smile

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Vallerrie
#16 Posted : Friday, January 09, 2015 2:04:57 PM
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Try being in Kisumu CBD on a Friday afternoon.
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Ms Mkenya
#17 Posted : Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:22:44 AM
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DN2 in todays Daily Nation has also helped me understand a little more.
....above all, to stand.
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Ms Mkenya
#18 Posted : Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:42:00 AM
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Vallerrie wrote:
Try being in Kisumu CBD on a Friday afternoon.


My colleague told me the same thing.. he offered to take me there lol.smile
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PeterReborn
#19 Posted : Tuesday, January 13, 2015 2:39:45 PM
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I don't known much about the luo culture but something has been bothering me since I lost a very close friend of mine and went to his burial in Rongo.
I understand that people must celebrate your life when you are gone but why should you leave the family more miserable?
My friend came from a humble background was the bread winner in the family and he was taking care of his parents and siblings.
When the mourners came to condole the family,they ate all the 'assets' the family had-goats,cows,maize in the name of celebrating his life.The parents couldn't afford to pay the school fees and we had to have a fundraiser as friends to see them through school.
A culture should be done away with if it doesn't add value to society.
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McReggae
#20 Posted : Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:01:05 PM
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PeterReborn wrote:
I don't known much about the luo culture but something has been bothering me since I lost a very close friend of mine and went to his burial in Rongo.
I understand that people must celebrate your life when you are gone but why should you leave the family more miserable?
My friend came from a humble background was the bread winner in the family and he was taking care of his parents and siblings.
When the mourners came to condole the family,they ate all the 'assets' the family had-goats,cows,maize in the name of celebrating his life.The parents couldn't afford to pay the school fees and we had to have a fundraiser as friends to see them through school.
A culture should be done away with if it doesn't add value to society.


Okay.....they ate all of them? Numbers?
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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