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Luo mourning - I seek to understand.
Ms Mkenya
#1 Posted : Wednesday, January 07, 2015 1:05:42 PM
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I have been asking about this from my Luo friends and relatives but no one seems to give me a conclusive answer.

When a prominent person dies in Luo land, there is a lot of people moving to the streets with twigs and a lot of loud mourning and also rushing to the deceased home. Anyone can go. Often very fast!

I ask this because when police move in to 'quell the chaos' social media goes a-buzz about how the rest of us should learn how Luos mourn.
More recently I also saw something new during Kajwang's funeral. The chasing away death run.

Were all these done traditionally or it is a current phenomenon?

What is the significance? Can ANYONE go into the home of the deceased?

Most of the Luos I have talked to say it is hyped, happens more if you were a person of means. The funerals I have attended there did not have that kind of display (they were not prominent people though.

How can we be more empathetic?
....above all, to stand.
sparkly
#2 Posted : Wednesday, January 07, 2015 1:10:34 PM
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Ms Mkenya wrote:

I have been asking about this from my Luo friends and relatives but no one seems to give me a conclusive answer.

When a prominent person dies in Luo land, there is a lot of people moving to the streets with twigs and a lot of loud mourning and also rushing to the deceased home. Anyone can go. Often very fast!

I ask this because when police move in to 'quell the chaos' social media goes a-buzz about how the rest of us should learn how Luos mourn.
More recently I also saw something new during Kajwang's funeral. The chasing away death run.

Were all these done traditionally or it is a current phenomenon?

What is the significance? Can ANYONE go into the home of the deceased?

Most of the Luos I have talked to say it is hyped, happens more if you were a person of means. The funerals I have attended there did not have that kind of display (they were not prominent people though.

How can we be more empathetic?


Luos do everything with pomp, be it mourning, graduations, weddings, Gor winning or just having a good time at Carnivore smile smile smile
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Ms Mkenya
#3 Posted : Wednesday, January 07, 2015 1:17:55 PM
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@Sparkly, I understand the celebration bit of the 'Happy moments'. Funerals is what's a little intriguing to me.
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Othelo
#4 Posted : Wednesday, January 07, 2015 1:20:41 PM
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You need to read Luo kitgi kod timbegi to understand some of these shinnanigans (sp).

Chasing away death is there in majority of ATH&C! The luo version is Tero Buru which can be done before or after burial depending on age and status of the deceased!
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Ms Mkenya
#5 Posted : Wednesday, January 07, 2015 1:36:08 PM
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Othelo wrote:
You need to read Luo kitgi kod timbegi to understand some of these shinnanigans (sp).

Chasing away death is there in majority of ATH&C! The luo version is Tero Buru which can be done before or after burial depending on age and status of the deceased!


Hmm... I am getting more lost, the highlights may help. What I know of Tero Buru is mainly in relation to wife inheritance.

Please shed some light?
....above all, to stand.
radio
#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 07, 2015 1:54:54 PM
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Ms Mkenya wrote:
Othelo wrote:
You need to read Luo kitgi kod timbegi to understand some of these shinnanigans (sp).

Chasing away death is there in majority of ATH&C! The luo version is Tero Buru which can be done before or after burial depending on age and status of the deceased!


Hmm... I am getting more lost, the highlights may help. What I know of Tero Buru is mainly in relation to wife inheritance.

Please shed some light?


Ai, I thought Tero Buru is for airports that haven't never been landed.
Ms Mkenya
#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 07, 2015 2:10:08 PM
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radio wrote:
Ms Mkenya wrote:
Othelo wrote:
You need to read Luo kitgi kod timbegi to understand some of these shinnanigans (sp).

Chasing away death is there in majority of ATH&C! The luo version is Tero Buru which can be done before or after burial depending on age and status of the deceased!


Hmm... I am getting more lost, the highlights may help. What I know of Tero Buru is mainly in relation to wife inheritance.

Please shed some light?


Ai, I thought Tero Buru is for airports that haven't never been landed.


@Radio you are worse than me.. at least I know more than you do smile. Have a seat __/ we learn together smile...
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jaggernaut
#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 07, 2015 2:15:35 PM
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Ms Mkenya wrote:

I have been asking about this from my Luo friends and relatives but no one seems to give me a conclusive answer.

When a prominent person dies in Luo land, there is a lot of people moving to the streets with twigs and a lot of loud mourning and also rushing to the deceased home. Anyone can go. Often very fast!

I ask this because when police move in to 'quell the chaos' social media goes a-buzz about how the rest of us should learn how Luos mourn.
More recently I also saw something new during Kajwang's funeral. The chasing away death run.

Were all these done traditionally or it is a current phenomenon?

What is the significance? Can ANYONE go into the home of the deceased?

Most of the Luos I have talked to say it is hyped, happens more if you were a person of means. The funerals I have attended there did not have that kind of display (they were not prominent people though.

How can we be more empathetic?


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Am
#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 07, 2015 2:40:51 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Ms Mkenya wrote:

I have been asking about this from my Luo friends and relatives but no one seems to give me a conclusive answer.

When a prominent person dies in Luo land, there is a lot of people moving to the streets with twigs and a lot of loud mourning and also rushing to the deceased home. Anyone can go. Often very fast!

I ask this because when police move in to 'quell the chaos' social media goes a-buzz about how the rest of us should learn how Luos mourn.
More recently I also saw something new during Kajwang's funeral. The chasing away death run.

Were all these done traditionally or it is a current phenomenon?

What is the significance? Can ANYONE go into the home of the deceased?

Most of the Luos I have talked to say it is hyped, happens more if you were a person of means. The funerals I have attended there did not have that kind of display (they were not prominent people though.

How can we be more empathetic?


Luos do everything with pomp, be it mourning, graduations, weddings, Gor winning or just having a good time at Carnivore smile smile smile


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Wakanyugi
#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 07, 2015 3:19:41 PM
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Othelo wrote:
You need to read Luo kitgi kod timbegi to understand some of these shinnanigans (sp).

Chasing away death is there in majority of ATH&C! The luo version is Tero Buru which can be done before or after burial depending on age and status of the deceased!


Good points

It might also help to point out that such 'robust' confrontation of death is not a uniquely Luo phenomenon. It is something shared widely across Africa (Achebe, Amadi etc) wrote about this quite a bit.

Some communities were quite extreme in this, where for instance, the homestead where death has visited is destroyed, or - rare - animals or even young men and women are sacrificed to 'escort' a Chief who has died.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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