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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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I think I am looking at the current scenario from a biased point of view, yes it's good to secure your router - lakini the alarm created is needless, for a typical installation supporting pcs and mobile devices - there is nothing to be worried about even if by chance someone managed to log into your router, a logger can not be installed on your pc via the router nor can your files be stolen via the same.
But I am not an IT expert, so not in a position of authority to discuss access via the router, through the ftp server on the router to your pictures folder on your pc.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 8/26/2014 Posts: 63
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@nakuja I would be very concerned if someone unauthorized gained access to my router. That gives them entire access to my network, be it at home or in the office. And yes, your files can be stolen in this manner. Imagine an intruder having access to your main door at home; what wouldn't they be unable to do in your house? Be careful.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2011 Posts: 391 Location: Nairobi
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nakujua wrote:I think I am looking at the current scenario from a biased point of view, yes it's good to secure your router - lakini the alarm created is needless, for a typical installation supporting pcs and mobile devices - there is nothing to be worried about even if by chance someone managed to log into your router, a logger can not be installed on your pc via the router nor can your files be stolen via the same.
But I am not an IT expert, so not in a position of authority to discuss access via the router, through the ftp server on the router to your pictures folder on your pc. Actually you should be very concerned ... once someone has access to your router especially one which has vpn capability, port forwarding etc they can create havoc on your network, open back doors and all manner of horrors on your network . Intruder is able to see all connected devices, thus can check for all running services , if a vulnerability is found they can easily push a script on your devices and that's it , next time you double click on what you think is Microsoft word .... Lets all be responsible and just be sure to ask your installer for all your credentials and change them. Be sure to change 1. Wifi SSID ( wireless network name ) and password ...most likely they use the same all over 2. router management credentials ( most devices come with a friendly explanation on the right that explains what each setting does ) "You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" - Stephen Wright
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/10/2010 Posts: 281 Location: Nairobi
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Security is usually tiered. It takes more than an insecure router to access files on any device. Just because someone can see how many computers are on the network and the wifi ssid and password does not grant access to files.
Infact the most you can do with that is attempt a phishing hack which most antiviruses will catch.
Just because you enter the bank, doesn't mean that you have access to the vault.
Secure your vault. if it bothers you, put your important data offline.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/3/2015 Posts: 86 Location: Bomet
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The fear mongering on this thread is getting ridiculous. Will you apply these measures when you visit a friend? Or how about public wifi?
In the domain of IT, security should not limit usability.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/27/2014 Posts: 454 Location: Republic of Enchantment.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2011 Posts: 391 Location: Nairobi
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madhaquer wrote:Security is usually tiered. It takes more than an insecure router to access files on any device. Just because someone can see how many computers are on the network and the wifi ssid and password does not grant access to files.
Infact the most you can do with that is attempt a phishing hack which most antiviruses will catch.
Just because you enter the bank, doesn't mean that you have access to the vault.
Secure your vault. if it bothers you, put your important data offline. hah hah hah ..you cannot be serious! Go ahead and reset your enterprise routers to default then post back. The simple fact that someone can actually see your network is doom. "You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" - Stephen Wright
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Speculz wrote:nakujua wrote:I think I am looking at the current scenario from a biased point of view, yes it's good to secure your router - lakini the alarm created is needless, for a typical installation supporting pcs and mobile devices - there is nothing to be worried about even if by chance someone managed to log into your router, a logger can not be installed on your pc via the router nor can your files be stolen via the same.
But I am not an IT expert, so not in a position of authority to discuss access via the router, through the ftp server on the router to your pictures folder on your pc. Actually you should be very concerned ... once someone has access to your router especially one which has vpn capability, port forwarding etc they can create havoc on your network, open back doors and all manner of horrors on your network . Intruder is able to see all connected devices, thus can check for all running services , if a vulnerability is found they can easily push a script on your devices and that's it , next time you double click on what you think is Microsoft word .... Lets all be responsible and just be sure to ask your installer for all your credentials and change them. Be sure to change 1. Wifi SSID ( wireless network name ) and password ...most likely they use the same all over 2. router management credentials ( most devices come with a friendly explanation on the right that explains what each setting does ) as I said I think I am biased,  but honestly, how on earth will the intruder place a script on your pc via the router that looks like ms word and how will vpn and port forwarding enable them to cause havoc on your android, ios windows 8 home network. the alarm is uncalled for, if you can secure your router go ahead it advisable - but its nothing I would loose sleep over if someone managed to log into my home router
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Uhondo wrote:@nakuja I would be very concerned if someone unauthorized gained access to my router. That gives them entire access to my network, be it at home or in the office. And yes, your files can be stolen in this manner. Imagine an intruder having access to your main door at home; what wouldn't they be unable to do in your house? Be careful. now how will they steal my pictures on my android phone connected to my home router, as I said there is no need for alarm, for a kawaida home setup,actually my worry would be more on the online actions of the users - the router is the first line of defense in the network, don't undermine that small box - in its default settings it provides decent security for the kawaida home setup.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2011 Posts: 391 Location: Nairobi
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nakujua wrote:Speculz wrote:nakujua wrote:I think I am looking at the current scenario from a biased point of view, yes it's good to secure your router - lakini the alarm created is needless, for a typical installation supporting pcs and mobile devices - there is nothing to be worried about even if by chance someone managed to log into your router, a logger can not be installed on your pc via the router nor can your files be stolen via the same.
But I am not an IT expert, so not in a position of authority to discuss access via the router, through the ftp server on the router to your pictures folder on your pc. Actually you should be very concerned ... once someone has access to your router especially one which has vpn capability, port forwarding etc they can create havoc on your network, open back doors and all manner of horrors on your network . Intruder is able to see all connected devices, thus can check for all running services , if a vulnerability is found they can easily push a script on your devices and that's it , next time you double click on what you think is Microsoft word .... Lets all be responsible and just be sure to ask your installer for all your credentials and change them. Be sure to change 1. Wifi SSID ( wireless network name ) and password ...most likely they use the same all over 2. router management credentials ( most devices come with a friendly explanation on the right that explains what each setting does ) as I said I think I am biased, but honestly, how on earth will the intruder place a script on your pc via the router that looks like ms word and how will vpn and port forwarding enable them to cause havoc on your android, ios windows 8 home network. the alarm is uncalled for, if you can secure your router go ahead it advisable - but its nothing I would loose sleep over if someone managed to log into my home router :) Nakujua im not an expert either but, simple scenario , The person will create a vpn network on your router , join your network with his machine, scan your network for vulnerabilities or known exploits, use the same , most of us do not have important data BUT , he could also sniff your network and initiate a man in the middle attack , as you connect to your internet banking .... :) as I said mimi si expert so maybe no cause for alarm :) "You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" - Stephen Wright
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