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McReggae wrote:kysse wrote:harrydre wrote:Wendz wrote:@Mcg, do we have a postmortem report yet? Ukiona McR amenyamaza hivo, iko maneno. Kalonzo wants the world to know what killed him. We want to know. The public will be told what they need to know.....more tests required blah blah blah!!! I thought that since poisoning/drugs are suspected then they would need to collect samples from the stomach, urine, blood, lungs etc and run the samples using analytical methods such as TLC, GC etc, to detect any suspicious compounds, and these processes/methods can take time. It isn't something you can do at Lee in a day 'under natural light', you need an analytical/forensic toxicology lab. Possibly also send duplicate samples to different labs to see if they reach similar conclusions.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/11/2008 Posts: 892
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I am grieving with Right Hon over the loss of his son. For me, theories , affiliations or society status don't matter at this time. The fact is, he's s parent who's lost s child and I'm grieving with him. I shed a tear when I saw the pain in his face. Was too much. Parents in the house will understand me. For in him (Jesus) we live and move and have our being-Acts 17:28
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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ali wrote:I am grieving with Right Hon over the loss of his son. For me, theories , affiliations or society status don't matter at this time.
The fact is, he's s parent who's lost s child and I'm grieving with him.
I shed a tear when I saw the pain in his face. Was too much.
Parents in the house will understand me.
 Exactly!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/13/2006 Posts: 2,589
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Bigchick wrote:Yesturday they wanted the postmortem done under natural light.Am sure they have finished as todays light was extra bright.
What am almost certain about is that the results show something the family could be ashamed of and so it shall remain a family matter.
If at all there was an ioata of foul play..Nairobi haingekalika.
But my wish would be they say to truth to clear doubts and enable us take some lessons for our children. My thoughts exactly...sadly it does not remove from the tragedy of it all. Death is so final! @McDoba hio uhondo ya Kajwang inasisimua akili...tuambie hata kama ni methali tujichambulie bwana! BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US AND WANTS US TO BE HAPPY!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2012 Posts: 1,461 Location: Ngong Forest
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Six prosecutors? are they anticipating prosecution?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Ngong wrote:Six prosecutors? are they anticipating prosecution? Of the drug dealers?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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McReggae wrote:jaggernaut wrote:McReggae wrote:masukuma wrote:McReggae wrote:harrydre wrote:Bigchick wrote:Yesturday they wanted the postmortem done under natural light.Am sure they have finished as todays light was extra bright.
What am almost certain about is that the results show something the family could be ashamed of and so it shall remain a family matter.
If at all there was an ioata of foul play..Nairobi haingekalika.
But my wish would be they say to truth to clear doubts and enable us take some lessons for our children. my thoughts exactment. someone failed in their duty to parent! but why does this only affect the boy child? I have not heard any concerns with the female Odingas.  How better than Fidel do you think you are? What the exact concerns about Fidel that would even compare with your president? sijui watu wanangojea nini... mulijua ya mutula? vitu obvious kama za kajwang ndio tunaambiwa. where i suspect kwenye some chemicals that move the body from 1 state to another are involved hamtaambiwa! Very few people know ya Kajwang' though it is starting to spread....it was murder and not by GoK or family!!!!!! Haiya, toboa. Tell us more. One can't walk and even talk in the Senate with even a single broken rib, those 7 ribs were broken that night! Ribs were broken as the Doctors tried to ressusicate him (not sure of the spelling). Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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sparkly wrote:McReggae wrote:jaggernaut wrote:McReggae wrote:masukuma wrote:McReggae wrote:harrydre wrote:Bigchick wrote:Yesturday they wanted the postmortem done under natural light.Am sure they have finished as todays light was extra bright.
What am almost certain about is that the results show something the family could be ashamed of and so it shall remain a family matter.
If at all there was an ioata of foul play..Nairobi haingekalika.
But my wish would be they say to truth to clear doubts and enable us take some lessons for our children. my thoughts exactment. someone failed in their duty to parent! but why does this only affect the boy child? I have not heard any concerns with the female Odingas. How better than Fidel do you think you are? What the exact concerns about Fidel that would even compare with your president? sijui watu wanangojea nini... mulijua ya mutula? vitu obvious kama za kajwang ndio tunaambiwa. where i suspect kwenye some chemicals that move the body from 1 state to another are involved hamtaambiwa! Very few people know ya Kajwang' though it is starting to spread....it was murder and not by GoK or family!!!!!! Haiya, toboa. Tell us more. One can't walk and even talk in the Senate with even a single broken rib, those 7 ribs were broken that night! Ribs were broken as the Doctors tried to ressusicate him (not sure of the spelling). You could be right. Even Michael Jackson had six broken ribs which were crushed as they tried to resuscitate him. I bet also Fidel. It's better to break a patient's rib and resuscitate him (ribs can heal) than let him die. BTW where are the resident medics eg Ranzak13 etc to give us expert opinion on this issue. How can they be MIA when the country is faced with such a high profile medical mystery. Or do they fear sounding politically incorrect?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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McReggae wrote:harrydre wrote:McReggae wrote:harrydre wrote:Bigchick wrote:Yesturday they wanted the postmortem done under natural light.Am sure they have finished as todays light was extra bright.
What am almost certain about is that the results show something the family could be ashamed of and so it shall remain a family matter.
If at all there was an ioata of foul play..Nairobi haingekalika.
But my wish would be they say to truth to clear doubts and enable us take some lessons for our children. my thoughts exactment. someone failed in their duty to parent! but why does this only affect the boy child? I have not heard any concerns with the female Odingas. How better than Fidel do you think you are? What the exact concerns about Fidel that would even compare with your president? I will not even respond to this. it's out there in the media and it's unfortunite it had to end this way. What's there in the media? Nothing tangible can be pointed in Fidel's so called 'wrong' upbringing. He lived his life and loved which he enjoyed with other friends who are assumed to have brought up well. Last I checked he rain his business rather, he was philanthropic, chairman of Kisumu Rigby Club and a supporter/sponsor of youth empowerment programs. He was however not very keen on politics, hii shida ya Fidel mnaonea wapi, even in his last moment after he drinking he was still in a state to know he could not drive and thus the taxi he used. He could not be Raila but I do not see what he was expected to do that he did not. Let hos soul rest in peace!!!! Talk to some folks who knew him in the US. Baltimore to be specific...they will even tell you why he went into hiding in a small town in Tennessee and ultimately returning to Kenya. ( and this has nothing to do with Bhang)!!! Hii mambo started mapema and as I said it's unfortunite it ended this way..probably it would have been avoided but people would rather not take responsibility. .I am glad he was turning his life around going by what you state up there. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Quote:Meanwhile, Fidel’s family and friends Tuesday said before he died, he was being prepared for a political role. His mother, Ida Odinga, said Fidel had a bright future.  i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/9/2009 Posts: 2,003
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Come to think of it, if he was my family and the results of the postmortem were anything other than natural death, the public would never hear of it.
I am sure all of you would do the same.
Let us therefore not be to harsh on the family when the choose to keep it private. A son, a brother, a cousin, a father et al is dead already.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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radio wrote:Come to think of it, if he was my family and the results of the postmortem were anything other than natural death, the public would never hear of it.
I am sure all of you would do the same.
Let us therefore not be to harsh on the family when the choose to keep it private. A son, a brother, a cousin, a father et al is dead already. I guess the only reason we are interested is because Cord led by Kalonzo linked his death to foul play and categorised him in the same bracket as Mutula,Kajwang et al. Remember too this was a son of a big man and when such happens the world needs to know what happened. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/20/2012 Posts: 888
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jaggernaut wrote:McReggae wrote:kysse wrote:harrydre wrote:Wendz wrote:@Mcg, do we have a postmortem report yet? Ukiona McR amenyamaza hivo, iko maneno. Kalonzo wants the world to know what killed him. We want to know. The public will be told what they need to know.....more tests required blah blah blah!!! I thought that since poisoning/drugs are suspected then they would need to collect samples from the stomach, urine, blood, lungs etc and run the samples using analytical methods such as TLC, GC etc, to detect any suspicious compounds, and these processes/methods can take time. It isn't something you can do at Lee in a day 'under natural light', you need an analytical/forensic toxicology lab. Possibly also send duplicate samples to different labs to see if they reach similar conclusions. You don't have to undertake numerous tests when the cause is known. The cause was known as early as Sunday Evening. Right now the public will be taken round in circles. The public need to know given that foul play was fed to the public minds in the social media. The propagandist did not care to withdraw the statements and apoligise to the public for the misleading information.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Pathologists said an autopsy carried out on the body of Fidel Odinga on Tuesday was unable to determine what killed him. - See more at: http://m.the-star.co.ke/#sthash.DbaXy6Vs.dpuf
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/9/2009 Posts: 2,003
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Seeing as the father has swiftly moved on ( as shown in today's Nation's headline picture) I believe the investigation doesn't interest him much as the cause of death could be obvious to him.
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