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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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streetwise wrote:People heal all the time and i believe this is God’s work...the issue here is a human being who decides he knows the will of God and goes ahead to make money on it.
Imagine this..supposing someone woke up one day long before human beings could go to the moon and told you that he had powers to take you there and then the scientist come along and they invited you on a test flight...Would that guy be God himself or who.. That is a logical fallacy. You have framed and set up your imagination to try to link 2 unrelated scenarios hoping to lead to pre-determined 'logical' conclusion. Street logic.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Lolest! wrote:Ceinz wrote:Lolest! wrote: ... 2. Owuor is the last prophet that God is sending to the World. This was most shocking to me. You mean Owuor has become like that other false prophet, Muhammad?
What evidence do you have of Muhammad being a false prophet, write of what you know, not just for writing sake. We have discussed this at length here in wazua. Just search that false prophet's name and you'll see what we have against him My apologies if you are a follower Happy 2015 @lonest! when comparing just compare the teachings not what you watch on TV. Just read what you wrote minus media & your hate mentality! As like @muriel just said, your know about prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is street knowledge.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:washiku wrote:Ceinz wrote:washiku wrote: 2. When someone who have been deaf since birth gets healed, how are they able to communicate in whichever language immediately? How did they learn the languages?
Somebody born deaf can actually speak/ be taught how to speak. You should read the story of Helen Keller who was deaf and blind from childhood and was able to learn to speak by reading peoples lips with her hands. She not only learnt how to speak but spent much of her life giving speeches and lecture. You have put it rightly: Somebody born deaf can BE TAUGHT how to talk. Helen was able to LEARN...Takes some time. Its not immediate...right? It's possible for one to speak immediately after 'recovery' from congenital deafness when you consider what happened on the day of Pentecost as true. So the question isn't about what Owuor does or doesn't do. An understanding of what exactly happened on the pentecost day is vital. If the speech was as charismatics and evangelicals suppose - incomprehensible - then Owuor's is possible & genuine. But if every man who witnessed the event heard his own language - comprehensible - then Owuor's is impossible & fake. Indeed, the question isn't about what or not Owuor does. It may be about who he's representing.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:Ceinz wrote:Lolest! wrote: ... 2. Owuor is the last prophet that God is sending to the World. This was most shocking to me. You mean Owuor has become like that other false prophet, Muhammad?
What evidence do you have of Muhammad being a false prophet, write of what you know, not just for writing sake. We have discussed this at length here in wazua. Just search that false prophet's name and you'll see what we have against him My apologies if you are a follower Happy 2015 @lonest! when comparing just compare the teachings not what you watch on TV. Just read what you wrote minus media & your hate mentality! As like @muriel just said, your know about prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is street knowledge. Mohammed himself (PBUH) is a street preacher. Charlatan.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:Ceinz wrote:Lolest! wrote: ... 2. Owuor is the last prophet that God is sending to the World. This was most shocking to me. You mean Owuor has become like that other false prophet, Muhammad?
What evidence do you have of Muhammad being a false prophet, write of what you know, not just for writing sake. We have discussed this at length here in wazua. Just search that false prophet's name and you'll see what we have against him My apologies if you are a follower Happy 2015 @lonest! when comparing just compare the teachings not what you watch on TV. Just read what you wrote minus media & your hate mentality! As like @muriel just said, your know about prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is street knowledge. Mohammed himself (PBUH) is a street preacher. Charlatan. @muriel, stop misleading people with your little knowledge. You just accused @streetwise of "street logic", yet you are taking yourself same direction.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:Ceinz wrote:Lolest! wrote: ... 2. Owuor is the last prophet that God is sending to the World. This was most shocking to me. You mean Owuor has become like that other false prophet, Muhammad?
What evidence do you have of Muhammad being a false prophet, write of what you know, not just for writing sake. We have discussed this at length here in wazua. Just search that false prophet's name and you'll see what we have against him My apologies if you are a follower Happy 2015 @lonest! when comparing just compare the teachings not what you watch on TV. Just read what you wrote minus media & your hate mentality! As like @muriel just said, your know about prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is street knowledge. Mohammed himself (PBUH) is a street preacher. Charlatan. @muriel, stop misleading people with your little knowledge. You just accused @streetwise of "street logic", yet you are taking yourself same direction. Which Muhammad, which Jesus, Buddha, do I know? Alas, all I know are of the Street. And am not surprised that many have called them charlatans.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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tycho wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:Ceinz wrote:Lolest! wrote: ... 2. Owuor is the last prophet that God is sending to the World. This was most shocking to me. You mean Owuor has become like that other false prophet, Muhammad?
What evidence do you have of Muhammad being a false prophet, write of what you know, not just for writing sake. We have discussed this at length here in wazua. Just search that false prophet's name and you'll see what we have against him My apologies if you are a follower Happy 2015 @lonest! when comparing just compare the teachings not what you watch on TV. Just read what you wrote minus media & your hate mentality! As like @muriel just said, your know about prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is street knowledge. Mohammed himself (PBUH) is a street preacher. Charlatan. @muriel, stop misleading people with your little knowledge. You just accused @streetwise of "street logic", yet you are taking yourself same direction. Which Muhammad, which Jesus, Buddha, do I know? Alas, all I know are of the Street. And am not surprised that many have called them charlatans. @tycho, You should know people! 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/27/2010 Posts: 951 Location: Nyumbani
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Rahatupu wrote:Kanyari part II modelled in finer software is what I see. And some fellas even after watching Kanyari still line up surely why can't this prophet knock the door @KNH ???
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:Ceinz wrote:Lolest! wrote: ... 2. Owuor is the last prophet that God is sending to the World. This was most shocking to me. You mean Owuor has become like that other false prophet, Muhammad?
What evidence do you have of Muhammad being a false prophet, write of what you know, not just for writing sake. We have discussed this at length here in wazua. Just search that false prophet's name and you'll see what we have against him My apologies if you are a follower Happy 2015 @lonest! when comparing just compare the teachings not what you watch on TV. Just read what you wrote minus media & your hate mentality! As like @muriel just said, your know about prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is street knowledge. Mohammed himself (PBUH) is a street preacher. Charlatan. @muriel, stop misleading people with your little knowledge. You just accused @streetwise of "street logic", yet you are taking yourself same direction. Sorry for my mistake. I correct it thus: Mohammed himself (PBUH) was a street preacher. Charlatan. Thank you for the correction, Alphdoti.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:Ceinz wrote:Lolest! wrote: ... 2. Owuor is the last prophet that God is sending to the World. This was most shocking to me. You mean Owuor has become like that other false prophet, Muhammad?
What evidence do you have of Muhammad being a false prophet, write of what you know, not just for writing sake. We have discussed this at length here in wazua. Just search that false prophet's name and you'll see what we have against him My apologies if you are a follower Happy 2015 @lonest! when comparing just compare the teachings not what you watch on TV. Just read what you wrote minus media & your hate mentality! As like @muriel just said, your know about prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is street knowledge. Mohammed himself (PBUH) is a street preacher. Charlatan. @muriel, stop misleading people with your little knowledge. You just accused @streetwise of "street logic", yet you are taking yourself same direction. Sorry for my mistake. I correct it thus: Mohammed himself (PBUH) was a street preacher. Charlatan. Thank you for the correction, Alphdoti. @muriel, when you claim to know whom you are talking about, then you should argue based on his principles. But you have the right to hold opinions as long you express them intelligently. My opinion is, you don't know whom you are talking about.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:Ceinz wrote:Lolest! wrote: ... 2. Owuor is the last prophet that God is sending to the World. This was most shocking to me. You mean Owuor has become like that other false prophet, Muhammad?
What evidence do you have of Muhammad being a false prophet, write of what you know, not just for writing sake. We have discussed this at length here in wazua. Just search that false prophet's name and you'll see what we have against him My apologies if you are a follower Happy 2015 @lonest! when comparing just compare the teachings not what you watch on TV. Just read what you wrote minus media & your hate mentality! As like @muriel just said, your know about prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is street knowledge. my hate mentality? Your knowledge about yourself is near zero. Your hatred against mountaineers is clear! Mimi nachukia nani? The charlatan?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:Ceinz wrote:Lolest! wrote: ... 2. Owuor is the last prophet that God is sending to the World. This was most shocking to me. You mean Owuor has become like that other false prophet, Muhammad?
What evidence do you have of Muhammad being a false prophet, write of what you know, not just for writing sake. We have discussed this at length here in wazua. Just search that false prophet's name and you'll see what we have against him My apologies if you are a follower Happy 2015 @lonest! when comparing just compare the teachings not what you watch on TV. Just read what you wrote minus media & your hate mentality! As like @muriel just said, your know about prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is street knowledge. Mohammed himself (PBUH) is a street preacher. Charlatan. @muriel, stop misleading people with your little knowledge. You just accused @streetwise of "street logic", yet you are taking yourself same direction. Sorry for my mistake. I correct it thus: Mohammed himself (PBUH) was a street preacher. Charlatan. Thank you for the correction, Alphdoti. @muriel, when you claim to know whom you are talking about, then you should argue based on his principles. But you have the right to hold opinions as long you express them intelligently. My opinion is, you don't know whom you are talking about. Oh! Alright. You mean to say he was not mistreated in the streets of Mecca that he fled to Medina? There is a hadithi that following his mistreatments in the streets, he took shelter under a tree in Taif and complained to Allah "O Allah, I complain to you for my inability. I pray to you to lead these people to the right path." Hence not only was he a street preacher, but a nag as well.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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kiash wrote:Rahatupu wrote:Kanyari part II modelled in finer software is what I see. And some fellas even after watching Kanyari still line up surely why can't this prophet knock the door @KNH ??? Some atheists challenged him thus. I wonder how it was settled. In broad strokes, Owuors work is for the atheists' benefit - that atheism is a hoax. After that, when it comes to detailing, particularization, his work is Satan's.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:Ceinz wrote:Lolest! wrote: ... 2. Owuor is the last prophet that God is sending to the World. This was most shocking to me. You mean Owuor has become like that other false prophet, Muhammad?
What evidence do you have of Muhammad being a false prophet, write of what you know, not just for writing sake. We have discussed this at length here in wazua. Just search that false prophet's name and you'll see what we have against him My apologies if you are a follower Happy 2015 @lonest! when comparing just compare the teachings not what you watch on TV. Just read what you wrote minus media & your hate mentality! As like @muriel just said, your know about prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is street knowledge. Mohammed himself (PBUH) is a street preacher. Charlatan. @muriel, stop misleading people with your little knowledge. You just accused @streetwise of "street logic", yet you are taking yourself same direction. Sorry for my mistake. I correct it thus: Mohammed himself (PBUH) was a street preacher. Charlatan. Thank you for the correction, Alphdoti. @muriel, when you claim to know whom you are talking about, then you should argue based on his principles. But you have the right to hold opinions as long you express them intelligently. My opinion is, you don't know whom you are talking about. Oh! Alright. You mean to say he was not mistreated in the streets of Mecca that he fled to Medina? There is a hadithi that following his mistreatments in the streets, he took shelter under a tree in Taif and complained to Allah " O Allah, I complain to you for my inability. I pray to you to lead these people to the right path." Hence not only was he a street preacher, but a nag as well. You see that mistreatment you are talking about? Let me show a confirmation by your Christian Scholar! We can see that earlier on when Muhammad (pbuh) was 12 years old the Christian Monk Georges Bahirah confirmed that Muhammad was indeed a prophet and he would be sent with a MESSAGE. That MESSAGE was the QURAAN which was now being revealed at the age of 40. Bahirah had predicted the REVELATION 28 years before it happened. And now Waraqah is predicting that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) will be expelled from his home place Makkah. This is called the HIJRAH (taking refuge away from your hometown) which took place 13 years after Waraqah's meeting with the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). How did these two Christian Scholars accurately prophecy events that were to take place in the Prophet Muhammad's life?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote: You see that mistreatment you are talking about? Let me show a confirmation by your Christian Scholar!
We can see that earlier on when Muhammad (pbuh) was 12 years old the Christian Monk Georges Bahirah confirmed that Muhammad was indeed a prophet and he would be sent with a MESSAGE. That MESSAGE was the QURAAN which was now being revealed at the age of 40. Bahirah had predicted the REVELATION 28 years before it happened.
And now Waraqah is predicting that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) will be expelled from his home place Makkah. This is called the HIJRAH (taking refuge away from your hometown) which took place 13 years after Waraqah's meeting with the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). How did these two Christian Scholars accurately prophecy events that were to take place in the Prophet Muhammad's life?
Alphdoti, do you know what I think of Owuor? What makes you think I will think differently of this phantom prophet Bahirah? If Owuor is doing Satan's work, then Bahirah - if he did indeed exist - also did Satan's work. Are you saying Bahirah prophesied satanic prophecies? Is Mohammed (PBUH) a satanic product?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote: Oh! Alright.
You mean to say he was not mistreated in the streets of Mecca that he fled to Medina?
There is a hadithi that following his mistreatments in the streets, he took shelter under a tree in Taif and complained to Allah "O Allah, I complain to you for my inability. I pray to you to lead these people to the right path."
Hence not only was he a street preacher, but a nag as well.
You see that mistreatment you are talking about? Let me show a confirmation by your Christian Scholar! We can see that earlier on when Muhammad (pbuh) was 12 years old the Christian Monk Georges Bahirah confirmed that Muhammad was indeed a prophet and he would be sent with a MESSAGE. That MESSAGE was the QURAAN which was now being revealed at the age of 40. Bahirah had predicted the REVELATION 28 years before it happened. And now Waraqah is predicting that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) will be expelled from his home place Makkah. This is called the HIJRAH (taking refuge away from your hometown) which took place 13 years after Waraqah's meeting with the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). How did these two Christian Scholars accurately prophecy events that were to take place in the Prophet Muhammad's life? Alphdoti, do you know what I think of Owuor? What makes you think I will think differently of this phantom prophet Bahirah? If Owuor is doing Satan's work, then Bahirah - if he did indeed exist - also did Satan's work. Are you saying Bahirah prophesied satanic prophecies? Is Mohammed (PBUH) a satanic product? @Muriel, I am not trying to make you think differently, mine is to just show you that mocking is not something new. People of the past mocked prophets of God just like the way you are doing now. Thanks to the government of that day who managed to spread propaganda about those preaching God's word. Let me show you examples: Noah was mocked for building the ark in middle of desert! Abraham was mocked and exiled for refusing to worship idols! Moses was mocked and exiled by Pharaoh for refusing to recognize him as "god"! Jonah was mocked:"And Jonah indeed, ...ran away that he might not be ridiculed.." by Saint John Chrysostom, Homily Joel was mocked:"Give not up Thine heritage to the mockery of heathens over them" Joel 2:17 John the Baptist was mocked by Many people, calling him a nut case, a religious fanatic! Jesus was mocked:"...But I (Jesus), knowing that I am both to be crucified and mocked" by Saint John Chrysostom, Homily Jesus was mocked:"And kneeling before him they mocked him, saying, "Hail, King of the Jews!" Matthew 27:29 More mocking:"Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine" Acts 2:13
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Quote:Isaiah 18;1-3....1 Woe to the land of whirring wings along the rivers of Cush, 2 which sends envoys by sea in papyrus boats over the water. Go, swift messengers, to a people tall and smooth-skinned, to a people feared far and wide, an aggressive nation of strange speech, whose land is divided by rivers. 3 All you people of the world, you who live on the earth, when a banner is raised on the mountains, you will see it, and when a trumpet sounds, you will hear it. Very very strange: ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote: @Muriel, I am not trying to make you think differently, mine is to just show you that mocking is not something new. People of the past mocked prophets of God just like the way you are doing now. Thanks to the government of that day who managed to spread propaganda about those preaching God's word.
Let me show you examples: Noah was mocked for building the ark in middle of desert!
Abraham was mocked and exiled for refusing to worship idols!
Moses was mocked and exiled by Pharaoh for refusing to recognize him as "god"!
Jonah was mocked: "And Jonah indeed, ...ran away that he might not be ridiculed.." by Saint John Chrysostom, Homily
Joel was mocked: "Give not up Thine heritage to the mockery of heathens over them" Joel 2:17
John the Baptist was mocked by Many people, calling him a nut case, a religious fanatic!
Jesus was mocked: "...But I (Jesus), knowing that I am both to be crucified and mocked" by Saint John Chrysostom, Homily
Jesus was mocked: "And kneeling before him they mocked him, saying, "Hail, King of the Jews!" Matthew 27:29
More mocking: "Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine" Acts 2:13
Drawing up a special-one-sided list of some previously mocked individuals then implying that so and so - because he is currently being mocked - consequently also belongs to that list is street logic. Bush logic, even. Perhaps you can add yourself to that list too? Thomas Paine too was mocked. So was Lenin and Caesar. So were Margaret, Kate and Leah the Fox Sisters. Who has not been mocked? Add them all to the list. Crown the list with Mohammed. A list which proves nothing. Mockery is not the test by which we know anyone's standing.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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@muriel, Allah says in Quran 2:146 "those to whom WE gave the Scriptures - the Jews n the Christians - recognize Muhammad as they recognize their own sons. But some of them conceal the truth while they know it."
How True! Both Christian Scholars recognized the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) instantly at their first meeting with him as if they had known him for years and both predicted events in his life which would take place in the future.
This means that they were basing their predictions on prophecies in their books. What were these prophecies?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:@muriel, Allah says in Quran 2:146 "those to whom WE gave the Scriptures - the Jews n the Christians - recognize Muhammad as they recognize their own sons. But some of them conceal the truth while they know it."
How True! Both Christian Scholars recognized the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) instantly at their first meeting with him as if they had known him for years and both predicted events in his life which would take place in the future.
This means that they were basing their predictions on prophecies in their books. What were these prophecies? Yes, stick to the Qur'an, you might fare better. Humour me. When Islam was spreading in the initial centuries, some environmentist muslim told his fighters to hurt not the trees or cattle (I forget the exact words) and to kill only what was to be eaten. Do you remember?
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