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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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kiagio maji iko ni vile haija tumiwa vizuri, but i know the hyrogen2oxide in kenya would surpus our demand by 1:2. we have a virgin 250bn M3 acquifer! how about that for a start, hauja ongeza mvua, visima, mito na chemichemi LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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Kaigangio wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Kaigangio wrote:Could you also observe how the per capita water usage was arrived at!!
I just hope this time around the question of the 7000litres per day per capita will be laid to rest... Is it possible to publicize a hype to push for a certain agenda? Yes it is possible depending on the intention and to whom it is meant for...for those who cannot carry out a simple arithmetic... Take for example before the year 2009 Kibera slums was the biggest in the world with a population of close to 2,500,000 million people...the was a total of about 4000 registered NGOs that were operating in the slams mostly funded by external donors and wellwishers... Come the juicy part...after 2009 census Kibera slums became one of the smallest slum in the world with a total population of about 170,000...Most of the NGOs varnished overnight after this census... Tuko pamoja ndugu yangu> is it possible that 7000 per day is a hype? LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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kyt wrote:Kaigangio wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Kaigangio wrote:Could you also observe how the per capita water usage was arrived at!!
I just hope this time around the question of the 7000litres per day per capita will be laid to rest... Is it possible to publicize a hype to push for a certain agenda? Yes it is possible depending on the intention and to whom it is meant for...for those who cannot carry out a simple arithmetic... Take for example before the year 2009 Kibera slums was the biggest in the world with a population of close to 2,500,000 million people...the was a total of about 4000 registered NGOs that were operating in the slams mostly funded by external donors and wellwishers... Come the juicy part...after 2009 census Kibera slums became one of the smallest slum in the world with a total population of about 170,000...Most of the NGOs varnished overnight after this census... Tuko pamoja ndugu yangu> is it possible that 7000 per day is a hype? No it is not!!You know why? here are the figures that you are deliberately refusing to read and understand.... Quote:....In US from the latest available water drawn data, the following is a schedule of how Americans live large on this water resource in litres per day:
1. Public Supply = 239,927.0 million litres per day
2. Domestic = 19,892.3 million litres per day
3. Irrigation = 759,121.1 million litres per day
4. Livestock = 9,752.2 million litres per day
5. Aquaculture = 20,501.8 million litres per day
6. Industrial = 109,158.3 million litres per day
7. Mining = 19,338.2 million litres per day
8. Thermoelectric = 1,080,501.0 million litres per day
Total Volume = 2,258,191.9 Million litres per day
Next, current population of United States of America = 316 million
Water usage per day per capita = 2,258,191.9m l/d / 316m
= 7146.2 litres/day/capita.... and Quote:...From the available data on water availability in Kenya, the country is sub divided into five zones known as drainage basins which have the following established water output capacities per year.
1. Lake Victoria basin = 11,672,000 million litres per year
2. Rift Valley Basin = 2,784,000 million litres per year
3. Athi River Basin = 1,152,000 million litres per year
4. tana River Basin = 3,744,000 million litres per year
5. Ewaso Ng'iro Basin = 339,000 million litres per year
6. Ground Water = 600,000 million litres per year
Total amount of water 20,292,000 million litres per year
In short the maximum amount of water that Kenya can produce in any given year is on average 20,292,000 million litres per year!!!!... andQuote:...The maximum amount of water at Kenya's disposal per year is only 20,291,000 million litres per year which is equivalent to 20,291 million cubic metres per year which is equivalent to 20.29 Billion cubic metres per year...
You (Kenyans) are able to abstract an amount equal to 5.4% or 1096 million cubic metres per year...
The per capita availability based on the abstraction value is therefore 1,096,000 million litres per year/40 million people = 27,400 litres/year per capita = 75.1 litres/day/capita!!!!!!!
With that per capita availability it makes you one of the most water poor people on earth!!!!.... ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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kyt wrote:kiagio maji iko ni vile haija tumiwa vizuri, but i know the hyrogen2oxide in kenya would surpus our demand by 1:2. we have a virgin 250bn M3 acquifer! how about that for a start, hauja ongeza mvua, visima, mito na chemichemi You still have not answered my questions...I suggest you use numbers as much as you could... nd i repeat the questions again... If you have enough 1. water why then are you always having perennial water crisis??? 2. Why is Kenya categorised as one of the most water poor nation on earth?? If you cannot answers those two questions then you surely understand nothing about water resources!!! ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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kiagio mbona huoni tuko na acquifer iko na 250bn m3, untapped? why are you choosing to "deliberately refusing to read and understand...." LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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Kaigangio wrote:kyt wrote:kiagio maji iko ni vile haija tumiwa vizuri, but i know the hyrogen2oxide in kenya would surpus our demand by 1:2. we have a virgin 250bn M3 acquifer! how about that for a start, hauja ongeza mvua, visima, mito na chemichemi You still have not answered my questions...I suggest you use numbers as much as you could... nd i repeat the questions again... If you have enough 1. water why then are you always having perennial water crisis??? 2. Why is Kenya categorised as one of the most water poor nation on earth?? If you cannot answers those two questions then you surely understand nothing about water resources!!! beacuse its untapped, that's all! hakuna kingine cha kuongeza LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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kyt wrote:kiagio mbona huoni tuko na acquifer iko na 250bn m3, untapped? why are you choosing to "deliberately refusing to read and understand...." I know we have 200billion cubic metres of water resting some almost 330metres below the earths surface waiting to be harnessed...sure it will be... Like I told you I love numbers because they dont lie... to start with here is your Lotikipi aquifer that holds your 200billion cu. metres of water:  It would not make any economic sense to sink boreholes, pump out water, treat it and pump it again across the desert to large population centres more than 200km away (when I say large population centre, I mean areas around Kitale) So hiyo tusahau kabisa for it cannot benefit anybody further than 50km maximum from the aquifer itself. If I am correct, we have less than 2,000,000 people within this vicinity... ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Who takes up thos kenyan measurements? For example when akinyi goes to draw water in the morning and evening is that measurement taken? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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Kaigangio wrote:kyt wrote:kiagio mbona huoni tuko na acquifer iko na 250bn m3, untapped? why are you choosing to "deliberately refusing to read and understand...." I know we have 200billion cubic metres of water resting some almost 330metres below the earths surface waiting to be harnessed...sure it will be... Like I told you I love numbers because they dont lie... to start with here is your Lotikipi aquifer that holds your 200billion cu. metres of water: It would not make any economic sense to sink boreholes, pump out water, treat it and pump it again across the desert to large population centres more than 200km away (when I say large population centre, I mean areas around Kitale) So hiyo tusahau kabisa for it cannot benefit anybody further than 50km maximum from the aquifer itself. If I am correct, we have less than 2,000,000 people within this vicinity... kiagio why should we forget about it, oil is drilled onshore with a production cost of 2 dollars, and pumped through pipeline kilometres away, our nairobi water comes from ndakaini 87km away, mombasa water comes from mzima springs 250km away, why does it not make sense? again the rainwater, for one season, that goes away, if harnessed would, cover the water need for a year LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Who takes up thos kenyan measurements? For example when akinyi goes to draw water in the morning and evening is that measurement taken? When doing census i would guess. In all honesty, we are water deficient. A lot of it goes to waste meaning, we don't "have it".
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