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Co-operative Bank fate.. discuss
obiero
#41 Posted : Saturday, December 13, 2014 8:30:04 PM
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mawinder wrote:
gatoho wrote:
Kausha wrote:
It was a raw deal. 1.5x the less of number of years worked or number of years to retirement plus 40% outstanding loan balance waiver.


Damn them, a close relative fell victim and really not ideal.

We are taking them to court first thing Monday morning!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats unwise

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
murchr
#42 Posted : Saturday, December 13, 2014 9:15:48 PM
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mawinder wrote:
gatoho wrote:
Kausha wrote:
It was a raw deal. 1.5x the less of number of years worked or number of years to retirement plus 40% outstanding loan balance waiver.


Damn them, a close relative fell victim and really not ideal.

We are taking them to court first thing Monday morning!!!!!!!!!!!



Wait first i sell then you sue them
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Boris Boyka
#43 Posted : Saturday, December 13, 2014 9:20:08 PM
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obiero wrote:
mawinder wrote:
gatoho wrote:
Kausha wrote:
It was a raw deal. 1.5x the less of number of years worked or number of years to retirement plus 40% outstanding loan balance waiver.


Damn them, a close relative fell victim and really not ideal.

We are taking them to court first thing Monday morning!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats unwise

that's true @ Obiero, @mawinder acccept and move on..... look for some other place...such a battle...huwezi lazimisha shareholders kukubakisha kazi when you are redidant....given mko na notice na a package..
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Kalameni
#44 Posted : Saturday, December 13, 2014 10:14:20 PM
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wish 160 guys well.Has coop really completed the layoffs or many more are on the way cause the number is far less compared to the other banks.

















MaichBlack
#45 Posted : Sunday, December 14, 2014 7:45:41 AM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
obiero wrote:
mawinder wrote:
gatoho wrote:
Kausha wrote:
It was a raw deal. 1.5x the less of number of years worked or number of years to retirement plus 40% outstanding loan balance waiver.


Damn them, a close relative fell victim and really not ideal.

We are taking them to court first thing Monday morning!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats unwise

that's true @ Obiero, @mawinder acccept and move on..... look for some other place...such a battle...huwezi lazimisha shareholders kukubakisha kazi when you are redidant....given mko na notice na a package..

Link: See post #222 and post #223
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
obiero
#46 Posted : Sunday, December 14, 2014 7:55:11 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
obiero wrote:
mawinder wrote:
gatoho wrote:
Kausha wrote:
It was a raw deal. 1.5x the less of number of years worked or number of years to retirement plus 40% outstanding loan balance waiver.


Damn them, a close relative fell victim and really not ideal.

We are taking them to court first thing Monday morning!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats unwise

that's true @ Obiero, @mawinder acccept and move on..... look for some other place...such a battle...huwezi lazimisha shareholders kukubakisha kazi when you are redidant....given mko na notice na a package..

Link: See post #222 and post #223

Hahaha

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
maka
#47 Posted : Sunday, December 14, 2014 10:55:48 AM
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mawinder wrote:
gatoho wrote:
Kausha wrote:
It was a raw deal. 1.5x the less of number of years worked or number of years to retirement plus 40% outstanding loan balance waiver.


Damn them, a close relative fell victim and really not ideal.

We are taking them to court first thing Monday morning!!!!!!!!!!!


Let them go to Court.
It's their right.
Though going by the terms they got they may not get much...
As per Section 40 of the Employment Act redundancy is payable at the rate of 15 days for each year of service
possunt quia posse videntur
Boris Boyka
#48 Posted : Sunday, December 14, 2014 11:29:09 AM
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obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
obiero wrote:
mawinder wrote:
gatoho wrote:
Kausha wrote:
It was a raw deal. 1.5x the less of number of years worked or number of years to retirement plus 40% outstanding loan balance waiver.


Damn them, a close relative fell victim and really not ideal.

We are taking them to court first thing Monday morning!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats unwise

that's true @ Obiero, @mawinder acccept and move on..... look for some other place...such a battle...huwezi lazimisha shareholders kukubakisha kazi when you are redidant....given mko na notice na a package..

Link: See post #222 and post #223

Hahaha

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Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
mawinder
#49 Posted : Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:14:26 PM
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maka wrote:
mawinder wrote:
gatoho wrote:
Kausha wrote:
It was a raw deal. 1.5x the less of number of years worked or number of years to retirement plus 40% outstanding loan balance waiver.


Damn them, a close relative fell victim and really not ideal.

We are taking them to court first thing Monday morning!!!!!!!!!!!


Let them go to Court.
It's their right.
Though going by the terms they got they may not get much...
As per Section 40 of the Employment Act redundancy is payable at the rate of 15 days for each year of service

@maka,your fellow lawyers Titus Koceyo and matthew Oseko have began looking for the retrenchees.It is a big industry, they have done it in the past and that is how they make their money.A link on their pas pursuits is here
http://www.standardmedia...-pensioners&pageNo=1
lochaz-index
#50 Posted : Sunday, December 14, 2014 7:31:35 PM
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Rankaz13 wrote:
obiero wrote:
@rankaz share the inside scoop. ama ni porojo tu unauza


I wouldn't delve into too much detail without jeopardizing my sources. But the key word is procurement. Serious 'chicken' being shared out amongst the senior fellows. And I mean procurement of everything literally, from the core-banking system software, security guards services, leasing of buildings in which some of their branches are located, etc etc.


@rankaz I second you on the part of leasing of not some but most of their respective branch buildings.... serious 'chicken ' I tell you.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
Swenani
#51 Posted : Monday, December 15, 2014 8:51:55 AM
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murchr wrote:
mawinder wrote:
gatoho wrote:
Kausha wrote:
It was a raw deal. 1.5x the less of number of years worked or number of years to retirement plus 40% outstanding loan balance waiver.


Damn them, a close relative fell victim and really not ideal.

We are taking them to court first thing Monday morning!!!!!!!!!!!



Wait first i sell then you sue them

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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Realtreaty
#52 Posted : Monday, December 15, 2014 10:02:58 AM
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lochaz-index wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:
obiero wrote:
@rankaz share the inside scoop. ama ni porojo tu unauza


I wouldn't delve into too much detail without jeopardizing my sources. But the key word is procurement. Serious 'chicken' being shared out amongst the senior fellows. And I mean procurement of everything literally, from the core-banking system software, security guards services, leasing of buildings in which some of their branches are located, etc etc.


@rankaz I second you on the part of leasing of not some but most of their respective branch buildings.... serious 'chicken ' I tell you.

Did all these 160 Managers have loansd'oh! ?
What was the initial staff Company agreement on mode of payment?
The best thing is management staff enjoy good package and no union matters in them.smile
mlennyma
#53 Posted : Monday, December 15, 2014 10:15:59 AM
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Losing a job of this status in a country crowded with unemployment is sooooo painful
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
XSK
#54 Posted : Monday, December 15, 2014 11:06:24 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Losing a job of this status in a country crowded with unemployment is sooooo painful


very very true

With xmas just next week there is no holiday for them. On the brighter side, such circumstances bring out the best in some people. They are then able to take risks that they previously could not!
You will know that you have arrived when money and time are not mutually exclusive "events" in you life!
mkonomtupu
#55 Posted : Monday, December 15, 2014 1:32:45 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Losing a job of this status in a country crowded with unemployment is sooooo painful


What were they doing in those 15 years that they can't stand on their own. If they can't then they were just dead weight employees. Employment is modern day slavery
Kalameni
#56 Posted : Monday, December 15, 2014 7:30:56 PM
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seems this layoff hasnt had an effect on the price despite it being a costly exercise for sure.
Boris Boyka
#57 Posted : Monday, December 15, 2014 9:16:41 PM
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The 160 managers have agross salary of 300-500k. most have worked for btwn 15-35yrs. computation is using the gross salary. A good number of employees were praying to be among the 160. it seems to be a blessing in disguise. surely si mbaya. RINK rafiki mfanyikazi wa ndani
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
maka
#58 Posted : Monday, December 15, 2014 9:39:05 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
The 160 managers have agross salary of 300-500k. most have worked for btwn 15-35yrs. computation is using the gross salary. A good number of employees were praying to be among the 160. it seems to be a blessing in disguise. surely si mbaya. RINK rafiki mfanyikazi wa ndani

They can't get a better deal anywhere on this planet...
possunt quia posse videntur
Mukiri
#59 Posted : Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:33:43 AM
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lochaz-index wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:
obiero wrote:
@rankaz share the inside scoop. ama ni porojo tu unauza


I wouldn't delve into too much detail without jeopardizing my sources. But the key word is procurement. Serious 'chicken' being shared out amongst the senior fellows. And I mean procurement of everything literally, from the core-banking system software, security guards services, leasing of buildings in which some of their branches are located, etc etc.


@rankaz I second you on the part of leasing of not some but most of their respective branch buildings.... serious 'chicken ' I tell you.

Kwanza the lessor who moved from Mambasani to South Sudi.. Serious serious shiken, mbora top-tok apatake yake.

Proverbs 19:21
meme
#60 Posted : Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:19:45 AM
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maka wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
The 160 managers have agross salary of 300-500k. most have worked for btwn 15-35yrs. computation is using the gross salary. A good number of employees were praying to be among the 160. it seems to be a blessing in disguise. surely si mbaya. RINK rafiki mfanyikazi wa ndani

They can't get a better deal anywhere on this planet...

Patience. You cannot have a baby in one month by impregnating nine women....
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