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VituVingiSana
#41 Posted : Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:14:22 AM
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The Kenyan manufacturers had said something about falling consumption (or substitution for cheaper alternatives) and rising inflation as the current prevailing conditions

For various goods that are 'protected' e.g. cement, cigarettes, beer, etc from 'foreign' competition through barriers like tariffs/duties/quotas inflation does hurt them since there creeping inflation on the SUPPLY SIDE.

Example: Higher electricity prices (due to higher thermal generation based on 'expensive' diesel) affects cement production costs.



I always thot that when prices rise normally (not zimbabwe-type rise) people save more cash to buy stuff (cos stuff costs more) and the lack of demand (for say manufactured goods) pushes prices back down, thus back to equilibrium.

There is a MINIMUM level of 'spending' required. If the cost of this basket of goods (food, electricity, clothes) costs more then there is less left to 'save'. You can't 'save' more if stuff costs more.

I'm thinking the reason why inflation is still declining in Kenya to 5% is because that equilibrium has not been met.

The inflation calculation was changed from arithmetic to geometric. Apples to Oranges. Or in Kenya... bananas to oranges...
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Scubidu
#42 Posted : Friday, December 25, 2009 9:08:46 PM
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excellent points vvs. So when there is low inflation people's money buys more stuff (more money is idle). People have surplus cash relative to the prices of goods available. So people "buy" (maybe consumer goods) or "invest" (maybe capital goods) to absorb this surplus they don't need right now. Buying, investing & saving all at the same time seems kinda counterproductive. Not buying or not investing but saving sounds more logical.

So when do people save more?

When people are buying stuff with surplus cash (high purchasing power) or when engaging in the MINIMUM level of spending? I have personally experienced that when I spend minimally, I also tend to keep extra cash in reserve for emergencies (thus saving more disposable income).

I think I finally understand what you meant when you said "I do not think households should be encouraged to spend...We need to save where we can. Then use the savings to invest" (post 35). So would it make a difference if kizee had said "encouraged to spend on capital goods"?

Hope you having a great xmas btw.
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Scubidu
#43 Posted : Monday, January 11, 2010 8:22:19 AM
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Great story in BD today about our debts and the stimulus package. IMF thinks that the government should "...stop spending more money than the economy can finance...", but do they think they don't say that the private sector can pick up the 'spending' slack. The current trend is the global trend and we're still missing the targets on our tax revenues.

The stats from the latest weekly bulletin indicate that domestic debt is up 29% with interest payments on this debt up 37% y-o-y. Although T-bills outstanding were up 62% y-o-y T-bonds outstanding were up 26% on T-bonds (which in numbers is a massive Kshs84 bn (net) raised domestically since Dec-08).

IMF further argue that "Kenya's public debt...should be scaled down to a target ratio of about 40% of GDP for it to be sustainable without raising creditors' fears of a possible default." Who are our main creditors? I think it was split 50:50 between foreigners and domestic. Who would be most fearful among them and what would they do if they think we'll default?

Last interesting comment is from a standard bank analyst saying "...there is little risk that the stimulus spending will stoke inflation, adding that weak growth in monetary aggregates should give the CBK the licence to forge ahead with its stimulus spending programmes." I'm sure this is something that has been endlessly debated, who exactly stokes the inflation? The monetary aggregates referred to could be the M1 and M2 aggregates. M1 growth has been weak (compared to previous year) at just over 10% y-o-y as many Kenyans had cut done on their consumption. So maybe it's the higher M1 growth that is needed (such as during the safcom IPO time) for the higher risk of inflation to materialise.

Nothing can be done once the train gains momentum, so we must look at the impact of debt repayments. Investment banks that deal with bonds should well the news given by John Mutua of IEA where he says "...some of the projects built under the stimulus programme will still require a maintenance budget in future, making it harder for treasury to shrink its expansionary budget". This makes perfect sense and makes the future all the more uncertain.

http://www.businessdaily...48/-/6a4x4l/-/index.html
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VituVingiSana
#44 Posted : Monday, January 11, 2010 9:33:08 AM
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Households (typically) do not spend on capital goods...
What may be considered 'capital goods' by households are often not used to produce income.
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Scubidu
#45 Posted : Monday, January 11, 2010 7:22:35 PM
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@vvs. You’re quite right. Dropped by my broker today and they told me that retail investors have been trickling in slowly. I guess people are starting to invest again. With you guys watching market prices so closely, it's only a matter of time b4 the young crowd (uni guys) start piling into the market.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
VituVingiSana
#46 Posted : Monday, January 11, 2010 8:57:34 PM
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If Kenyans have 'surplus' income then I hope they invest it!

Nevertheless, not everyone invests for the future... they prefer the here & now...
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Scubidu
#47 Posted : Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:25:51 PM
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The IMF thinks interest rates will rise due to an expected economic recovery but how well is private sector credit really growing? IMF indicated that the third qtr GDP performance was dismal (growing by 0% vs 4.0% & 2.4% in QTR 1 & 2) and shouldn't the warning now prompt investors to anticipate a decline in the stock market.

IMF doesn't advocate for a reduction in the stimulus but wants stakeholders to be watchful of inflation. But then the market basket is expected to be re-weighted next month to include other variables such as the cost of telephony. One would believe their monitoring capability would be severely hampered by this.

The Fund believes high foreign investor participation is contingent on low political risk by way of a smooth constitutional process, but, is this too ambitious given our history and make the portfolio FDI currently driving our market rally more volatile.

Find out more at:

http://www.businessdaily...36/-/6aky0i/-/index.html
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#48 Posted : Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:29:10 PM
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Stats just out from CBK monthly economic review for Nov '09 show a 10% growth in private and other public sector credit against a 37% growth in govt credit. But just how much faith can one put in government stats these days?

Click the link below to download any monthly economic review

http://www.centralbank.g...blications/default.aspx

I quick download of the economic review for Nov '09 reveals some revisions (on Nov 08 review doc) to the breakdown of bank credit.

The unrevised figure for Nov 2008 credit to private sector is Kshs146.5 bn, but is now Kshs104.8 bn as a revised figure. The variance is about Kshs41.7 bn. But one can notice that credit to other activities has offset the change jumping from Kshs40.8 bn (unrevised) to Kshs80.5 bn (revised).

The implication of this reclassification is that consumer loans are up 11.2% y-o-y (against 1.5% in October), largely due to loans to private individuals rising from -12.8% y-o-y in October 2009 to 1% in November 2009 (breaking a 9 month -ve growth trend). Are these the stats reliable particularly since the IMF is assessing a recovery in private sector credit? The reason for reclassification of 5% of Kenya's bank credit was not disclosed.

The best performing sector in terms of private sector lending has been the trade sector (up 36%). The wholesale and hotel sectors contribution to GDP in qtr 3 was good growing by 1.8% and 44.4% (against -3.5%, -2.4% & -1.8% respectively for agriculture, manufacturing & Transport). These represent the major sectors contributing to GDP.

Is there a connect between private sector credit growth and the sector revenue growth? The IMF statement would suggest some sort of connection.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#49 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2010 2:47:14 PM
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Excerpt from a recent World Bank report "...in October 2009 the government adopted a new methodology for measuring inflation in line with international good practice. The new methodology removes the upward bias which was particularly sensitive to volatile food prices.

The new methodology provides a more accurate assessment of prices changes creating more certainty for business and labor...the government has also announced an adjustment in the basket of consumer prices in February 2010, reducing the weight of food in the CPI from 50% to 40%. With this additional adjustment, overall inflation is expected to decline further".

There are two main broad types of methods to aggregate price data. Until October 2009, Kenya has been using the arithmetic mean (linked Carli Index)...KNBS shifted to a weighted geometric mean (Jevons Index). World Bank Report.

Read more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/...of_price_index_formulas

Bob Prechter explains why the Fed's actions are more likely to create an inflation mirage rather than the real thing.

Read more:

http://www.elliottwave.c...0%94Mostly-a-Mirage.aspx
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Bashka
#50 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2010 8:12:02 AM
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The MPC will sit tommorrow 26th Jan, deliberate on CBR, CRR and other targets. Are banks liquid enough now, has private sector credit improved vs credit to government? Most pple are predicting the CBR to be retained at its current level of 7 percent(it was reviewed in the last meeting from 7.75% to 7%.
Scubidu
#51 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2010 10:26:29 AM
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CBR unlikely to be revised upwards as the stimulus is expected to be in place til June 2010. It doesn't need to go done either as banks are liquid. So no changes to CBR or CRR. Inflation is expected to drop next month.

Private sector credit is better thanks to manipulation of govt stats. Govt borrowing to continue unchecked to mop up unwanted liquidity and they'll borrow at lower rates to reduce debt payments.

Incidentally this is all good for the stock market as lower rates and low inflation will make valuations rise. This coupled with economic projections may prompt more "buy" recommendations.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
VituVingiSana
#52 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2010 12:42:06 PM
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The CBR rate makes little sense in the real world... so does it really matter what they do?
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Scubidu
#53 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:42:09 AM
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They have implemented some pretty strong regulations on weekly reporting.

http://234next.com/csp/c...s/5508142-147/story.csp

What did the Nigerians do at their MPC meeting.

Read more:

http://www.cenbank.org/O...anuary_4_and_5_2010.pdf

The banking sector had a growth rate of 56.1% in aggregate domestic credit (net) (boy that's pretty high). And despite various policy measures reserve money is still below indicative benchmarks; in Kenya it's at par, so liquidity seems fine.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Bashka
#54 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 7:38:20 AM
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CBR retained at 7 percent.
kizee
#55 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:14:52 AM
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as vvs says...the cbr is a baseless rate...cbk need to make it more relevant...
Scubidu
#56 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:18:47 PM
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From CBK website
Average Lending Rate = 14.85%
Deposit Rate = 5.06%
CBR = 7.00%
Lending Rate less to Deposit Rate = 9.79%
Lending Rate less to CBR = 7.85%

Possible reasons for the high spread above:

High non-performing loans (high default risk during 2009, what about 2010?)

Information symmetry (KYC & credit bureaus have been swung into action)

Operational costs (ATM & mobile banking growth, shouldn't they be lowering cost)

Interest rate risk (high cost of funds?)

Liquidity risk (CBK has a loose monetary policy)

Diversifying their asset portfolio (the possible culprit given banks hold a lot of govt paper, T-bill returns drop)

High and unstable inflation (no way esp for 2010)

What's the theory here on the high interest rate spread for Kenyan banks? Is it a case of raising the profit margin? (pure and simple)
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#57 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 6:02:34 AM
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With all the borrowing going on we ask ourselves...what are they using all this money on? The govt made a confession that of the 24.2b of stimulus funds only 3.25b had been spent...apparently issues with project contractors, but they're still hopeful. So why are they still borrowing more?

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http://www.businessdaily...2/-/6bbojf/-/index.html

A good thing about Treasury borrowing is that it’s getting it cheap and this is important for repayments. In Kenya we pay interest+principal to our external debts, but pay interest only on our domestic debts...& domestic interest alone comprise more 10% of KRA revenues per year.

A word on Kenyan inflation…look at the latest CBK weekly bulletin, there is a graph showing 12-month overall inflation dipping below 12-month underlying inflation. The rains have lowered food prices considerably, but do we have things backwards, everything else (alcohol, tobacco, fuel, power, transport, housing, clothes, etc…) is much much higher? What happens at the end of February 2010 when KNBS reduces the food inflation weighting to 40.0%, which statistic will be more relevant when core inflation continues to climb above headline inflation?

The last time underlying inflation was at par with overall inflation was in Oct-2005, which coincidentally is when the base index for the new CPI geometric mean...so was Oct-2005 chosen for this reason? Does it represent a time when food inflation was at its lowest?

A citibank analyst observed that food and energy accounted for much of the increase in Kenyan inflation. Food inflation (based on 1997 prices) in Oct-2005 was 2.3% vs 25.2% in Sep-09 while fuel&power inflation declined from 11.0% to -9.5%. But look at the rise in fuel index in geometric terms...I'm not surprised that core (underlying) inflation is up.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#58 Posted : Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:41:35 PM
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The CBK published its December monthly economic review and confirming that indeed core inflation is higher than headline inflation. This may seem strange but not according to the same document, this was the case in the first half of 2007 (obviously not reflected in the previous arithmetic calculation).

The explanation was a massive drop in food inflation from 25.88% in Dec-08 to 4.11% in Jan-10. The culprits for higher core inflation figure; fuel & power and alcohol index (esp in Q3 & Q4 of 2009). The KNBS will launch new figures reflecting the revised CPI basket based on the Household Budget Survey 2005/06 starting in February 2010...they tell us how the food index will be changed but fail to explain where they'll allocate the excess 10.2% weighting...this is a serious omission particularly for inflation observers.

The KNBS tells us that 12m headline inflation is 4.69% while 12m core inflation is 5.69%, but hava look at your KPLC power bill for Dec-09 and Jan-10, they've increased the inflation adjustment component they charge customers from 5 cents/KWh to 8 cents/KWh. Why? Is the justification that the fuel & power index has risen and in that case KPLC is responding to core inflation components while disregarding the drop in headline inflation.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#59 Posted : Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:43:15 PM
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The CBK monthly economic review reveals that total govt revenue collected by KRA was up 13.7% to 269b over 2008 but below the target of 278b. Public debt climbed by 14.7% to 1,115b during the same period. So what does this mean when the rate of Kenya's debt grows faster than revenue collections? The CBK says the following "cumulative govt expenditure on interest and other charges on domestic debt increased from Ksh13.5 billion in the first half of fiscal year 2008/09, to Ksh31.2 billion in a similar period of the fiscal year 2009/10".

So interest and other charges on domestic debt rose 131% compared to 2008 so it's in the best interest for govt to maintain lower borrowing rates...sound familiar, becoz this is the scenario playing out in the US. So by the end of 2009, for every shilling KRA was collecting, 16.4 cents was being used to pay domestic interest and external debt service vs the 9.1 cents we were paying in 2008 (80% rise).

Finally the CBK balance sheet shows them holding 16.6 billion worth of govt securities on the asset side...what does this represent? This represents the money the CBK has printed/created to facilitate the growth of Kenya's public debt. On the liability side, at Dec-09 GOK was holding 70billion at CBK which is up 18billion from Nov-09...so this seems the preferred way Treasury wants to contain all that liquidity CBK has been creating, basically mopping up bank liquidity during govt bond auctions & not spending it...after all the govt admitted two weeks ago that they have only spent a fraction of stimulus borrowings.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#60 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:05:29 PM
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A Citibank report with interesting comments on inflation in Sub-Saharan Africa using Kenya as a case. It says the following

"...As with most SSA countries, revisions to the basket tend to reduce the food component. As this has been an important driver of inflation in SSA in recent years, this should reduce the inflation rate further. The next country likely to revise its basket, is Tanzania, also in early 2010...

...In our view, these changes do not really reflect political manipulation of the statistics, but are normal technical changes to their calculation. But they clearly do make it harder to understand inflationary pressures. In the case of Kenya, inflationary pressures were apparently very strong in 1H 2009, but virtually minimal in 2H 2009 if the new inflation data is to be taken at face value...
".

The report also looks at the drivers of inflation in SSA economies that include:- structural drivers of inflation, electricity prices, oil prices and policy considerations.

Anyone interested in reading the report email me at moneyedkenya at gmail dot com
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
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