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guru267
#21 Posted : Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:50:41 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
John 5:30 "By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but Him who sent me"

How can the man who said this be God?? Liar

He was man


Thank you...

Who is God?

God is Almighty... Jesus is not as shown above!

God is All knowing... Jesus is not because he is clueless of the last day!

The Messiah is nothing but a servant of Yahweh!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Mukiri
#22 Posted : Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:51:11 AM
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guru267 wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
2. Jesus is a racist. He only came for the Jews!
(a). Jesus sent his 12 disciples "and commanded them saying, GO NOT into the way of the Gentiles, or any city of the Samaritans ENTER YE NOT... only to the lost sheep of THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL (to the Jews only)." Matthew 10:5-6

(b) A Canaanite woman begged Jesus, saying Lord, help me (to cure my daughter). But Jesus answered and said, it is not good take children's food and CAST IT TO DOGS (the non-Jews)." MATTHEW 15:24-26


3. I will continue....


@Alph how dare you call the Messiah a racist?? The Qur'an and Bible say his first coming was only to the children of Israel but that does not make him a racist!

Besides we all know on his 2nd coming he will rule the whole earth under the law of Muhammad!

You should kick out this ignorant infidel from your camp.. Or atleast teach him something, if only to keep his ignorance to himself. He does you more harm than good.

Proverbs 19:21
Mukiri
#23 Posted : Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:54:57 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
John 5:30 "By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but Him who sent me"

How can the man who said this be God?? Liar

He was man


Thank you...

Who is God?

God is Almighty... Jesus is not as shown above!

God is All knowing... Jesus is not because he is clueless of the last day!

The Messiah is nothing but a servant of Yahweh!

True. On earth, Jesus Christ was flesh and blood, like you and me. Its why, its possible to emulate Him. He was about love, forgiveness etc And He never killed anyone, in deed or by anger. Reckon, you can hack being like Him?

Proverbs 19:21
Mukiri
#24 Posted : Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:57:25 AM
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guru267 wrote:
symbols wrote:
1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Applause

That's why Im so glad we Muslims accept Jesus as the Christ and our Messiah who is the son just like Adam in Luke 3:38! The real truth...

So the liars must be the Jews who called him a bastard and the Christians who said he was God Almighty Sad

Aren't Muslims Jews?d'oh!

Proverbs 19:21
guru267
#25 Posted : Saturday, November 22, 2014 10:29:35 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
symbols wrote:
1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Applause

That's why Im so glad we Muslims accept Jesus as the Christ and our Messiah who is the son just like Adam in Luke 3:38! The real truth...

So the liars must be the Jews who called him a bastard and the Christians who said he was God Almighty Sad

Aren't Muslims Jews?d'oh!


Huh... how can Muslims be Jews if Jews deny both Christ and Muhammad???
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#26 Posted : Saturday, November 22, 2014 10:37:04 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
John 5:30 "By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but Him who sent me"

How can the man who said this be God?? Liar

He was man


Thank you...

Who is God?

God is Almighty... Jesus is not as shown above!

God is All knowing... Jesus is not because he is clueless of the last day!

The Messiah is nothing but a servant of Yahweh!

True. On earth, Jesus Christ was flesh and blood, like you and me. Its why, its possible to emulate Him. He was about love, forgiveness etc And He never killed anyone, in deed or by anger. Reckon, you can hack being like Him?


Jesus is the Christ!

Christ = Anointed with the Holy Spirit!

So it is impossible to be anointed with the Holy Spirit unless you are also the Christ!

How can a sinner like all sons of Adam ever be like Christ who is not a sinner???

We can always try to live like him but it is impossible to succeed as long as you are defined as a sinner!

That is why Muhammad was sent to the world... Because he was just like any of us!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
tycho
#27 Posted : Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:45:10 PM
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Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
John 5:30 "By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but Him who sent me"

How can the man who said this be God?? Liar

He was man


Thank you...

Who is God?

God is Almighty... Jesus is not as shown above!

God is All knowing... Jesus is not because he is clueless of the last day!

The Messiah is nothing but a servant of Yahweh!

True. On earth, Jesus Christ was flesh and blood, like you and me. Its why, its possible to emulate Him. He was about love, forgiveness etc And He never killed anyone, in deed or by anger. Reckon, you can hack being like Him?


Jesus is the Christ!

Christ = Anointed with the Holy Spirit!

So it is impossible to be anointed with the Holy Spirit unless you are also the Christ!

How can a sinner like all sons of Adam ever be like Christ who is not a sinner???

We can always try to live like him but it is impossible to succeed as long as you are defined as a sinner!

That is why Muhammad was sent to the world... Because he was just like any of us!


It's possible to be defined as a sinner and yet be able to emulate Christ. This is because definitions are subject to conditions and conditions can change.

And these conditions are explicated in the Bible.

Therefore the justification given for Muhammad's coming is clearly doubtful.
guru267
#28 Posted : Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:51:02 PM
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Joined: 1/21/2010
Posts: 6,675
Location: Nairobi
tycho wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
John 5:30 "By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but Him who sent me"

How can the man who said this be God?? Liar

He was man


Thank you...

Who is God?

God is Almighty... Jesus is not as shown above!

God is All knowing... Jesus is not because he is clueless of the last day!

The Messiah is nothing but a servant of Yahweh!

True. On earth, Jesus Christ was flesh and blood, like you and me. Its why, its possible to emulate Him. He was about love, forgiveness etc And He never killed anyone, in deed or by anger. Reckon, you can hack being like Him?


Jesus is the Christ!

Christ = Anointed with the Holy Spirit!

So it is impossible to be anointed with the Holy Spirit unless you are also the Christ!

How can a sinner like all sons of Adam ever be like Christ who is not a sinner???

We can always try to live like him but it is impossible to succeed as long as you are defined as a sinner!

That is why Muhammad was sent to the world... Because he was just like any of us!


It's possible to be defined as a sinner and yet be able to emulate Christ. This is because definitions are subject to conditions and conditions can change.

And these conditions are explicated in the Bible.

Therefore the justification given for Muhammad's coming is clearly doubtful.


So how does a born sinner emulate one who is not capable of sin??

Can an apple emulate an orange?
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
AlphDoti
#29 Posted : Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:52:22 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
3. Usury or taking or giving interest is sin
"If you lend money... you shall not charge INTEREST" Leviticus 25:35-37
"He that... hath given forth usury, and has taken INTEREST; shall he live? He shall not live, he has done abomination, he shall surely die" Ezekiel 18:13
"You shall not charge INTREREST..., interest on money, food or anything that may be loaned on interest... you shall not charge interest so that your Lord your God may bless you" Proverbs 28:8


That's why we have Sharia compliant trading in Islam. Because, anything that involves "riba", or usury and interest, is considered haram in Islam.

4. I will continue...
tycho
#30 Posted : Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:22:12 PM
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Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
guru267 wrote:
tycho wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
John 5:30 "By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but Him who sent me"

How can the man who said this be God?? Liar

He was man


Thank you...

Who is God?

God is Almighty... Jesus is not as shown above!

God is All knowing... Jesus is not because he is clueless of the last day!

The Messiah is nothing but a servant of Yahweh!

True. On earth, Jesus Christ was flesh and blood, like you and me. Its why, its possible to emulate Him. He was about love, forgiveness etc And He never killed anyone, in deed or by anger. Reckon, you can hack being like Him?


Jesus is the Christ!

Christ = Anointed with the Holy Spirit!

So it is impossible to be anointed with the Holy Spirit unless you are also the Christ!

How can a sinner like all sons of Adam ever be like Christ who is not a sinner???

We can always try to live like him but it is impossible to succeed as long as you are defined as a sinner!

That is why Muhammad was sent to the world... Because he was just like any of us!


It's possible to be defined as a sinner and yet be able to emulate Christ. This is because definitions are subject to conditions and conditions can change.

And these conditions are explicated in the Bible.

Therefore the justification given for Muhammad's coming is clearly doubtful.


So how does a born sinner emulate one who is not capable of sin??

Can an apple emulate an orange?


Yes. An apple can emulate an orange. It's a matter of genetic information self organizing.

There's this expression, 'Muui huwa mwema'. The human mind is very dynamic, definitions can't stick.
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