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Muriel
#231 Posted : Friday, October 17, 2014 10:50:25 AM
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Joined: 11/19/2009
Posts: 3,142
AlphDoti wrote:
Muriel wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:

You were not able to answer my 5 questions above. Just know there is so much that can be exposed. So next time you come thumping your chest, be prepared.

Next time you try to fool people around, know we know it Shame on you

Questions which are unanswered are:
1. Why didn't the soldiers take the little girls? Is it because the little ones are liability, because they got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that? - They were not taken?
2. How did the soldiers determined the mothers who were killed had slept with a man? - not indicated.
3. How did the soldiers determined that the young women had not known a man intimately? - not indicated.
4. What humanity is there after killing the girls' little brothers and sisters and their mothers and their fathers? - the humanity is in the treatment of the surviving girls after the fact. The killing of their brothers and sisters and parents is an act of judgment.
5. What did they do with the virgin girls after they treated them "with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity", what did they do with them afterwards? - they continued treating them with respect dignity etc till they died of old age.

Why would I thump my chest when you are more 'thumpable'?

1. You ask "They were not taken?" You mean you don't read your Bible? It says in Numbers 31:15-17: "And Moses said to them: have you kept all the women alive? Now therefore kill every male among the little ones."

2. You answered "No indicated", so why do you make noise when I assume they raped them to know they had not known a man before. If you argue this, then give us how they determined. But if you don't know, then leave us to have a guess. Ask @swenani, he will tell you how to tell if a woman is virgin or not.

3. You answered "No indicated". Since you don't know how they determined, then your guess is as good as mine. And my guess is mine, and your guess is yours. No need for you to jump to the roof over my guess.

4. You answered "The killing of their brothers and sisters and parents is an act of judgment". It is good to know how your Bible carries out judgement: "kill innocent babies. And take away their virgin sisters". Just like the white Police man shoot unarmed black man, and that's judgement. Internet will not forget this one Applause

5. You answered "they treated the abducted girls with respect dignity until they died" Applause Applause


I am well please to observe you really have no real objections with content or weight to my explanation.

Now you are just fishing for something to say. Fine with me.
Muriel
#232 Posted : Friday, October 17, 2014 10:59:26 AM
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Joined: 11/19/2009
Posts: 3,142
AlphDoti wrote:




AlphDoti wrote:







Alphdoti,

I noticed you are trawling the internet researching for images which you then present to me for approval.

I will 'mark' them and grade you seeing that you have made yourself a pupil and made me your teacher.

'Maul' as used in the story of the bear and the boys is not as you have sexed it up to be. 'Maul' means injure. Feel free to consult your dictionary. I understand the boys were injured. A scratch here or a bruise there. They were not dismembered or killed as you fantasize. That is not the meaning of 'maul'. For that image you get grade E.

The 2nd and 3rd images you present for marking depict scenarios in which some noisy women (maybe like Guru) were being told to zip it. Those are instructions on worship. For misuse of that I give you grade E.

As you can see you are a very dumb pupil.

Go back and do your homework better. Search more images!

AlphDoti
#233 Posted : Friday, October 17, 2014 12:35:32 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Muriel wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Muriel wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:

You were not able to answer my 5 questions above. Just know there is so much that can be exposed. So next time you come thumping your chest, be prepared.

Next time you try to fool people around, know we know it Shame on you

Questions which are unanswered are:
1. Why didn't the soldiers take the little girls? Is it because the little ones are liability, because they got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that? - They were not taken?
2. How did the soldiers determined the mothers who were killed had slept with a man? - not indicated.
3. How did the soldiers determined that the young women had not known a man intimately? - not indicated.
4. What humanity is there after killing the girls' little brothers and sisters and their mothers and their fathers? - the humanity is in the treatment of the surviving girls after the fact. The killing of their brothers and sisters and parents is an act of judgment.
5. What did they do with the virgin girls after they treated them "with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity", what did they do with them afterwards? - they continued treating them with respect dignity etc till they died of old age.

Why would I thump my chest when you are more 'thumpable'?

1. You ask "They were not taken?" You mean you don't read your Bible? It says in Numbers 31:15-17: "And Moses said to them: have you kept all the women alive? Now therefore kill every male among the little ones."

2. You answered "No indicated", so why do you make noise when I assume they raped them to know they had not known a man before. If you argue this, then give us how they determined. But if you don't know, then leave us to have a guess. Ask @swenani, he will tell you how to tell if a woman is virgin or not.

3. You answered "No indicated". Since you don't know how they determined, then your guess is as good as mine. And my guess is mine, and your guess is yours. No need for you to jump to the roof over my guess.

4. You answered "The killing of their brothers and sisters and parents is an act of judgment". It is good to know how your Bible carries out judgement: "kill innocent babies. And take away their virgin sisters". Just like the white Police man shoot unarmed black man, and that's judgement. Internet will not forget this one Applause

5. You answered "they treated the abducted girls with respect dignity until they died" Applause Applause

I am well please to observe you really have no real objections with content or weight to my explanation.

Now you are just fishing for something to say. Fine with me.

Your reply to the five questions is "Fine with me". So I summarize for future reference:
1. Bible Numbers 31:15-17: "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones." your answer is "Fine with me". Ok, cool.
2. You don't know how the sosliers determined virginity. That leaves us to have a guess e.g. they raped the girls. Your answer is "Fine with me". Ok, cool.
3. Same as (2) above. Your answers is "Fine with me". Ok, cool.
4. It is good to know how your Bible carries out judgement: "kill innocent babies. And take away their virgin sisters". Your answer is "Fine with me". Ok, cool.
5. After wiping out their whole family, where is your reference that "they treated the abducted girls with respect dignity until they died"? Your answer is "Fine with me". Ok, cool.

Now you said, God forbids rape, and is punishable by death. You also said it's theoretically possible that they soldiers raped, but given the circumstances it seems very unlikely. Not practically possible.

Now, based on your assertions, we know rape was punishable by death according to Deut 22:25-27, I want to ask you:

(a). Was Amon, the son of David aware of this law when he raped his sister in SAMUEL 13:14? "Howbeit he (Amon, one of the sons of David) would not hearken unto her (his sister Tamar's) voice: but, being stronger than she, forced (raped) her, and LAY (had sex) with her."

Crime 1: Rape (punishable by death Deut 22:25-27)
Crime 2: Incest (punishable by death Leviticus 20:11,12,14 "..both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them")

Was Amon punished?

(b). Secondly, another son of David commits incest and rapes his mothers in the view of the whole town. 2 SAMUEL 16:22 "So they spread Absalom (another of the sons of David) a tent up on the top of the house; and Absalom WENT IN (had intercourse) unto his father's concubines in the sight of ALL ISRAEL."

Crime 1: rape
Crime 2: Incest

Was Absalom punished by God?
Muriel
#234 Posted : Friday, October 17, 2014 12:53:26 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 11/19/2009
Posts: 3,142
AlphDoti wrote:
Muriel wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Muriel wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:

You were not able to answer my 5 questions above. Just know there is so much that can be exposed. So next time you come thumping your chest, be prepared.

Next time you try to fool people around, know we know it Shame on you

Questions which are unanswered are:
1. Why didn't the soldiers take the little girls? Is it because the little ones are liability, because they got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that? - They were not taken?
2. How did the soldiers determined the mothers who were killed had slept with a man? - not indicated.
3. How did the soldiers determined that the young women had not known a man intimately? - not indicated.
4. What humanity is there after killing the girls' little brothers and sisters and their mothers and their fathers? - the humanity is in the treatment of the surviving girls after the fact. The killing of their brothers and sisters and parents is an act of judgment.
5. What did they do with the virgin girls after they treated them "with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity", what did they do with them afterwards? - they continued treating them with respect dignity etc till they died of old age.

Why would I thump my chest when you are more 'thumpable'?

1. You ask "They were not taken?" You mean you don't read your Bible? It says in Numbers 31:15-17: "And Moses said to them: have you kept all the women alive? Now therefore kill every male among the little ones."

2. You answered "No indicated", so why do you make noise when I assume they raped them to know they had not known a man before. If you argue this, then give us how they determined. But if you don't know, then leave us to have a guess. Ask @swenani, he will tell you how to tell if a woman is virgin or not.

3. You answered "No indicated". Since you don't know how they determined, then your guess is as good as mine. And my guess is mine, and your guess is yours. No need for you to jump to the roof over my guess.

4. You answered "The killing of their brothers and sisters and parents is an act of judgment". It is good to know how your Bible carries out judgement: "kill innocent babies. And take away their virgin sisters". Just like the white Police man shoot unarmed black man, and that's judgement. Internet will not forget this one Applause

5. You answered "they treated the abducted girls with respect dignity until they died" Applause Applause

I am well please to observe you really have no real objections with content or weight to my explanation.

Now you are just fishing for something to say. Fine with me.

Your reply to the five questions is "Fine with me". So I summarize for future reference:
1. Bible Numbers 31:15-17: "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones." your answer is "Fine with me". Ok, cool.
2. You don't know how the sosliers determined virginity. That leaves us to have a guess e.g. they raped the girls. Your answer is "Fine with me". Ok, cool.
3. Same as (2) above. Your answers is "Fine with me". Ok, cool.
4. It is good to know how your Bible carries out judgement: "kill innocent babies. And take away their virgin sisters". Your answer is "Fine with me". Ok, cool.
5. After wiping out their whole family, where is your reference that "they treated the abducted girls with respect dignity until they died"? Your answer is "Fine with me". Ok, cool.

Now you said, God forbids rape, and is punishable by death. You also said it's theoretically possible that they soldiers raped, but given the circumstances it seems very unlikely. Not practically possible.

Now, based on your assertions, we know rape was punishable by death according to Deut 22:25-27, I want to ask you:

(a). Was Amon, the son of David aware of this law when he raped his sister in SAMUEL 13:14? "Howbeit he (Amon, one of the sons of David) would not hearken unto her (his sister Tamar's) voice: but, being stronger than she, forced (raped) her, and LAY (had sex) with her."

Crime 1: Rape (punishable by death Deut 22:25-27)
Crime 2: Incest (punishable by death Leviticus 20:11,12,14 "..both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them")

Was Amon punished?

(b). Secondly, another son of David commits incest and rapes his mothers in the view of the whole town. 2 SAMUEL 16:22 "So they spread Absalom (another of the sons of David) a tent up on the top of the house; and Absalom WENT IN (had intercourse) unto his father's concubines in the sight of ALL ISRAEL."

Crime 1: rape
Crime 2: Incest

Was Absalom punished by God?


Just because someone - like Absalom or Amon - happens not to be punished for an illegal act does not intimate at all in any way, form or shape that his action is consequently legal.

And I could not help but notice you want to sneak in ati the only guess you can make is rape!

Man! what's wrong with you with sex? Is that all you ever think of?

Is that the only guess you can make? Is that the only thing you know? Is it that hard for you to fathom that a man can interact with a woman without sex, or rape being involved?
Muriel
#235 Posted : Friday, October 17, 2014 12:58:27 PM
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Joined: 11/19/2009
Posts: 3,142
You are really fishing hard. Looking for something toxic to say.

Trawl the internet hard kabisa! Do deep sea trawling.

Perhaps you will get something I will be hard pressed to dismiss in a few lines.

Laugh
Laugh
Laugh
Mo
#236 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:13:01 PM
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Joined: 9/21/2007
Posts: 326
Is Muhammed prophesied in the Bible

@AlphaDoti,
tou have 3 texts claiming that Muhammed is prophesied in the bible
1. Matt 21:42
2. John 1:19
3. Isaiah 21:13

am studying the texts and will revert back, any other comments from the wazua republic invited. one ask - no name calling; just facts.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.
Muriel
#237 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:28:08 PM
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Joined: 11/19/2009
Posts: 3,142

It will be here that 'contradictions' in the bible will be most useful. Priceless.

Dig them up and have them ready. Be ready to cut.
meme
#238 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:33:18 PM
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Joined: 7/20/2011
Posts: 161
Location: nairobi
name calling is a must. Reason? Facts are just the opinions you choose to take up as the truth.
Patience. You cannot have a baby in one month by impregnating nine women....
masukuma
#239 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:56:29 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
Mo wrote:
@AlphaDoti,
tou have 3 texts claiming that Muhammed is prophesied in the bible
1. Matt 21:42
2. John 1:19
3. Isaiah 21:13

am studying the texts and will revert back, any other comments from the wazua republic invited. one ask - no name calling; just facts.

kinda reminds me of nostradamus and his prophesies.
Write many things about many topics and write them often then claim they are prophesies. In a couple of years, sometimes hundreds of years some of them will be 'true' and say that your prophesies were 'spot on' and people will start digging into your texts trying to look for insight into the future.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Mo
#240 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:04:15 PM
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Joined: 9/21/2007
Posts: 326
sawa ndugu Masukuma walakin, Isaiah is a VERY CREDIBLE prophet!! he predicted Jesus' birth, life and death 700 years before the events to PRECISION!!(What a statitician call zero bias!). The onus is on me to to read and understand what he meant in 21:13
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.
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