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KENOL-KOBIL 2014
mlennyma
#381 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 5:34:06 PM
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Our long wait will not be in vain,we have known no rally this year.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
earthvoice
#382 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:09:50 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:
Israelis are known to grow vegetables on stones and extract oil under the same stone.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly smile
"All intelligent investing is value investing -- acquiring more than you are paying for. You must value the business in order to value the stock." - Charlie Munger.
murchr
#383 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:17:14 PM
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A year ago. The price has not changed. KK = KQ
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mlennyma
#384 Posted : Wednesday, November 12, 2014 11:34:00 AM
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This share has created resistance in me such that no amount of demand or volume trades excites me,I have seen enough of it.. ask the experience from those who own east african cables shares
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Realtreaty
#385 Posted : Wednesday, November 12, 2014 1:53:58 PM
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Puma was like Kanyari,it came to destroy using the good news of takeover as in passover.
They refused to take all the staff that made them to demand their 310 package or else no deal! Segman had hedged hard and with falling prices and inflation KK was making money for others not for itself.
I wake up every morning, rush my fingers through the nse to see if they are doing much and saying something. Its my hope this time round FY2014 will come on time with some sweet dividends and maybe a hubby to pay the bills.
Goldilocks Reloaded
#386 Posted : Wednesday, November 12, 2014 1:55:52 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
This share has created resistance in me such that no amount of demand or volume trades excites me,I have seen enough of it.. ask the experience from those who own east african cables shares



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly . I am with you buddy. I am taking it as a continuous valuable lesson on patience. Fingers crossed that a sign of relief will come soon.

Go for a business that any idiot can run – because sooner or later, any idiot is probably going to run it – Peter Lynch
jawgey
#387 Posted : Wednesday, November 12, 2014 2:53:02 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
I just pray for down turn to continue until i accumulate enough,if the worst happens though, i may be admitted in a hospital.if fortunes come then making millions isnt a crime.


Shikilia kabisa brother!
Seeing is believing
Realtreaty
#388 Posted : Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:45:20 PM
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Laughing out loudly Just flipping a coin......who can be the next partner with KK?
Did the govt fees on mining and other extractive industries made PUMA to dissappear plus the demand by staff and court cases that KK was harbouring with others.
What if China National offshore oil company (CNOOC)or China national Petroleum corporation(CNPC) decides its time it invested in Kenya and make EastAfrica a hub for its oil exports and downstream business?
Or would Ohana -cum-Segman bring in an Israel company through its American affiliates?
Keep guessing!!!!Drool
Kausha
#389 Posted : Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:00:16 PM
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Mining laws and staff law suits were inconsequential. KK internal inefficiencies were a deal breaker to the plus 30bob price they were holding out for. Ohana is almost done fixing most of the inefficiencies.

Use USD 2.5m per each petrol station to estimate company value.
Aguytrying
#390 Posted : Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:30:33 PM
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The K card promotion is back! 2 off per litre. I saw the poster at one of their stations. time for me to dust off my old card. last time this happened kk landed at 17.00 ... just saying
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
mlennyma
#391 Posted : Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:37:21 PM
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And the petrol station near where I live has been modernised and painted like new.lets go
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
VituVingiSana
#392 Posted : Thursday, November 13, 2014 5:46:25 AM
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Location: Nairobi
Kausha wrote:
Mining laws and staff law suits were inconsequential. KK internal inefficiencies were a deal breaker to the plus 30bob price they were holding out for. Ohana is almost done fixing most of the inefficiencies.

Use USD 2.5m per each petrol station to estimate company value.
Many of the stations are dingy. Pumps are old. K-Card readers are slower than my 56K modem. I am disappointed. All the cost cutting comes to nought if the customers don't return. As loyal as I am to KK, I too have started going to other petrol stations including Total and Shell.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Gatheuzi
#393 Posted : Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:16:15 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:
Puma was like Kanyari,it came to destroy using the good news of takeover as in passover.
They refused to take all the staff that made them to demand their 310 package or else no deal! Segman had hedged hard and with falling prices and inflation KK was making money for others not for itself.
I wake up every morning, rush my fingers through the nse to see if they are doing much and saying something. Its my hope this time round FY2014 will come on time with some sweet dividends and maybe a hubby to pay the bills.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

For me I wake checking if it has fallen further to like sub 8 so that I can scope more. I don't ever wake up expecting it to rise!!!
Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
Realtreaty
#394 Posted : Saturday, November 15, 2014 8:11:40 PM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Puma was like Kanyari,it came to destroy using the good news of takeover as in passover.
They refused to take all the staff that made them to demand their 310 package or else no deal! Segman had hedged hard and with falling prices and inflation KK was making money for others not for itself.
I wake up every morning, rush my fingers through the nse to see if they are doing much and saying something. Its my hope this time round FY2014 will come on time with some sweet dividends and maybe a hubby to pay the bills.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

For me I wake checking if it has fallen further to like sub 8 so that I can scope more. I don't ever wake up expecting it to rise!!!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Ohana will spew goodness this FY'14 and we will know who is in and who is out.
Realtreaty
#395 Posted : Sunday, November 16, 2014 1:30:05 PM
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smile What will be the positive or negative effects of these pronouncements or goals...
''The Restructuring Process will continue in 2014 and has concentrated on five major areas: corporate restructuring, financing costs, operating costs, human resources realignment and risk reduction.''
smile
mlennyma
#396 Posted : Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:37:44 PM
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While KenolKobil, which is based in Nairobi, isn’t looking for a strategic partner, local and international investors have shown interest, Ohana said.

...this was ohanas view in april 23 2014,,is it still his view now????
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Cardinal
#397 Posted : Monday, November 17, 2014 7:59:18 AM
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Guys relax,

Kenol Kobil is a share that will grow.It's just getting it's books in order .Come April the profits will be over 1 billion .

That's the only time a Ohana and co will allow strategic partnerships with so many multinational oil companies,esp from US/ISRAEL,that have shown interest.

My guess is that the share price then,coz of the news, will rally to between 25-30.

An Acquisition ,51% will apply at a price of 34 - 38 per share.


Until then,lets relax,if you have some idle cash, just buy.Foreign investors are buying in bulk.!
Aguytrying
#398 Posted : Monday, November 17, 2014 9:59:22 AM
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thanks for calming the flock, that's the kind of re assurance most needed. I've adjusted my buying price to 8.50 after that strong bounce from 8.10 last week
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Realtreaty
#399 Posted : Monday, November 17, 2014 10:16:14 AM
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Posts: 2,297
Cardinal wrote:
Guys relax,

Kenol Kobil is a share that will grow.It's just getting it's books in order .Come April the profits will be over 1 billion .

That's the only time a Ohana and co will allow strategic partnerships with so many multinational oil companies,esp from US/ISRAEL,that have shown interest.

My guess is that the share price then,coz of the news, will rally to between 25-30.

An Acquisition ,51% will apply at a price of 34 - 38 per share.


Until then,lets relax,if you have some idle cash, just buy.Foreign investors are buying in bulk.!

Pray Pray Pray Pray Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ...you are a real Kanyari in this business Tour!!!!Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Realtreaty
#400 Posted : Monday, November 17, 2014 10:17:59 AM
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Cardinal wrote:
Guys relax,

Kenol Kobil is a share that will grow.It's just getting it's books in order .Come April the profits will be over 1 billion .

That's the only time a Ohana and co will allow strategic partnerships with so many multinational oil companies,esp from US/ISRAEL,that have shown interest.

My guess is that the share price then,coz of the news, will rally to between 25-30.

An Acquisition ,51% will apply at a price of 34 - 38 per share.


Until then,lets relax,if you have some idle cash, just buy.Foreign investors are buying in bulk.!

Pray Pray Pray Pray Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ...you are a real Kanyari in this business Tour!!!!Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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