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Dr Myles Munroe
obiero
#61 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 10:05:27 PM
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Atalaku wrote:
[quote=obiero some of the people putting down the impact of this man do not have anything to leave behind for mankind.. atleast I have a MBA thesis from a top university to be read by future generations, google 'collins obiero mba impact'.. dont mean to sound rude, but its just wrong to disrespect the dead..

Hahahahaha...if people were to place their achievements here you would go hiding with your MBA...[/quote]
Hehe. Please list your thesis title and name of university plus also state whether you obtained a first class hons in computer science or a similar challenging field. Im currently doing a doctorate.. Be proud of your achievements man :)

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nakujua
#62 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 11:31:22 PM
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obiero wrote:
some of the people putting down the impact of this man do not have anything to leave behind for mankind.. atleast I have a MBA thesis from a top university to be read by future generations, google 'collins obiero mba impact'.. dont mean to sound rude, but its just wrong to disrespect the dead..

its absurd to disrespect the dead, very appalling.
Atalaku
#63 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 11:36:48 PM
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@obiero...I am a form 2 dropout!smile
urstill1
#64 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:42:48 AM
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obiero wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
[quote=obiero some of the people putting down the impact of this man do not have anything to leave behind for mankind.. atleast I have a MBA thesis from a top university to be read by future generations, google 'collins obiero mba impact'.. dont mean to sound rude, but its just wrong to disrespect the dead..

Hahahahaha...if people were to place their achievements here you would go hiding with your MBA...

Hehe. Please list your thesis title and name of university plus also state whether you obtained a first class hons in computer science or a similar challenging field. Im currently doing a doctorate.. Be proud of your achievements man :)[/quote]

Can you quantify the impact on doctorate holders and non-doctorate holders have on humanity? Out of curiosity, how old are you? There are guys here with PhDs yet are under 30 and they took 2 full years of masters before PhD!! I respect a PhD holder who lets his actions speak for himself and least respect for those who throw the degree on other people's faces.
Mukiri
#65 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:32:00 AM
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urstill1 wrote:
obiero wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
obiero wrote:
some of the people putting down the impact of this man do not have anything to leave behind for mankind.. atleast I have a MBA thesis from a top university to be read by future generations, google 'collins obiero mba impact'.. dont mean to sound rude, but its just wrong to disrespect the dead..

Hahahahaha...if people were to place their achievements here you would go hiding with your MBA...

Hehe. Please list your thesis title and name of university plus also state whether you obtained a first class hons in computer science or a similar challenging field. Im currently doing a doctorate.. Be proud of your achievements man :)


Can you quantify the impact on doctorate holders and non-doctorate holders have on humanity? Out of curiosity, how old are you? There are guys here with PhDs yet are under 30 and they took 2 full years of masters before PhD!! I respect a PhD holder who lets his actions speak for himself and least respect for those who throw the degree on other people's faces.

Ujaluo itaua watu, yawah!!

Proverbs 19:21
Muriel
#66 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:44:51 AM
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MKWASI wrote:
washiku wrote:
nakujua wrote:
washiku wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
As we mourn a foreigner let us not forget the 24+ policemen who died on the line of duty recently! To be honest I have not read or listened to anything from him. And I chose not to.

C&P
[i]Dr Myles Munroe will be in Nairobi for his first ever trip to Kenya. He is set to give a talk at the Safari Park Hotel on October 21 dubbed The Potential Dinner. According to the flier, the gate charges go for Sh15,000[/i]

To me this is just an improved version of Dr Prophet Kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...


@Atalaku, I get what your point is, but I tend to think this guy is different if you look at it critically. I want to think of him as a coach. If you listen to him, he does training on "how to be the best in what you were created to be". In fact, anybody, whether a Christian or not, can listen to him and apply the principles thereof to better themselves. Motivational speakers are paid top dollar for their time. Mentorship programmes too could be very expensive. This is a bit different from Kanyari who tells you to drink salty water, or cheats you completely using chemicals that unatoka damu. In fact, studies shows that a workforce that has a serious motivational and mentorship programme performs better in the long term. That is why HR departments invests heavily in such issues. Well, I dont know whether you get my side of the coin, but although I respect your version of it, I feel these two people are different in their approach. One is an outright conman, the other works towards bringing the best out of you, and ensuring you are focusing on the important things of life. Or what do you think?

my 2 cents, they are the same, selling a service just operating at different social levels, they both motivate their following using different strategies - one will hoodwink you with the food and aura at safari park while the other will use some cheap chemical to drive home his point.

just depends on which side you are being outwitted from and whether the dupe sticks deep enough for you to believe and thus change your self. smile



Let me ask you guys...would you buy his book on Leadership? Would you pay a teacher who is teaching leadership courses? If you had a company, and you wanted someone to speak to your staff to give them a "punch", would you call Kanyari or the late doctor?



@ washiku It all depends on where each of us gets motivation from. What motivates you may not necessarily motivate me. Some have very different orientations and some have very different perspectives. Some are inspired by objects not necessarily human beings. Its a difficult subject which can best be described by akina @Tycho and @Muriel



Yes we can.

Motivation?

I had asked a question some time back about those whose right it is to be nyanyaswa-d. What is motivation?

Surely someone else's perspective and outlook to life cannot be necessarily be another's.

Motivational speakers to me are like those who promise to multiply money.

If all of us were 'motivated' - logically we cannot (what is success?) - they would not be around. Just as if all of us had all the money - logically we cannot (debt-based-economy) they would not be around.

MKWASI
#67 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:47:18 AM
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I think all of us can impact mankind irrespective of their level of education. However, more knowledge is good. Sharing that knowledge is better.
Kudos to @Obiero. its great to be proud of one's achievement. Your next challenge would be to transform the world.
@ Atalaku- Education transforms the mind. If one can compare Kanyari with the Late Dr, education may be just that, education.(Rather no transformation)
maka
#68 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:10:11 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
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Muriel wrote:
MKWASI wrote:
washiku wrote:
nakujua wrote:
washiku wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
As we mourn a foreigner let us not forget the 24+ policemen who died on the line of duty recently! To be honest I have not read or listened to anything from him. And I chose not to.

C&P
[i]Dr Myles Munroe will be in Nairobi for his first ever trip to Kenya. He is set to give a talk at the Safari Park Hotel on October 21 dubbed The Potential Dinner. According to the flier, the gate charges go for Sh15,000[/i]

To me this is just an improved version of Dr Prophet Kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...


@Atalaku, I get what your point is, but I tend to think this guy is different if you look at it critically. I want to think of him as a coach. If you listen to him, he does training on "how to be the best in what you were created to be". In fact, anybody, whether a Christian or not, can listen to him and apply the principles thereof to better themselves. Motivational speakers are paid top dollar for their time. Mentorship programmes too could be very expensive. This is a bit different from Kanyari who tells you to drink salty water, or cheats you completely using chemicals that unatoka damu. In fact, studies shows that a workforce that has a serious motivational and mentorship programme performs better in the long term. That is why HR departments invests heavily in such issues. Well, I dont know whether you get my side of the coin, but although I respect your version of it, I feel these two people are different in their approach. One is an outright conman, the other works towards bringing the best out of you, and ensuring you are focusing on the important things of life. Or what do you think?

my 2 cents, they are the same, selling a service just operating at different social levels, they both motivate their following using different strategies - one will hoodwink you with the food and aura at safari park while the other will use some cheap chemical to drive home his point.

just depends on which side you are being outwitted from and whether the dupe sticks deep enough for you to believe and thus change your self. smile



Let me ask you guys...would you buy his book on Leadership? Would you pay a teacher who is teaching leadership courses? If you had a company, and you wanted someone to speak to your staff to give them a "punch", would you call Kanyari or the late doctor?



@ washiku It all depends on where each of us gets motivation from. What motivates you may not necessarily motivate me. Some have very different orientations and some have very different perspectives. Some are inspired by objects not necessarily human beings. Its a difficult subject which can best be described by akina @Tycho and @Muriel



Yes we can.

Motivation?

I had asked a question some time back about those whose right it is to be nyanyaswa-d. What is motivation?

Surely someone else's perspective and outlook to life cannot be necessarily be another's.

Motivational speakers to me are like those who promise to multiply money.

If all of us were 'motivated' - logically we cannot (what is success?) - they would not be around. Just as if all of us had all the money - logically we cannot (debt-based-economy) they would not be around.




Excellent answers...true we are all different personally I have never needed the push/drive/change mindset gospel of a motivational speaker to make me do XYZ in my life,I know what I have to and need to do to change different aspects in my life when need be...
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kyt
#69 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:32:18 PM
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atakalu and what would you say of robin Sharma, who charges 51,000 per sitting per person?
LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
Atalaku
#70 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:47:02 PM
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kyt wrote:
atakalu and what would you say of robin Sharma, who charges 51,000 per sitting per person?

I cant say much about him but I can say afew things about those who pay to listen to him.
Atalaku
#71 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:52:51 PM
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maka wrote:
Muriel wrote:
MKWASI wrote:
washiku wrote:
nakujua wrote:
washiku wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
As we mourn a foreigner let us not forget the 24+ policemen who died on the line of duty recently! To be honest I have not read or listened to anything from him. And I chose not to.

C&P
[i]Dr Myles Munroe will be in Nairobi for his first ever trip to Kenya. He is set to give a talk at the Safari Park Hotel on October 21 dubbed The Potential Dinner. According to the flier, the gate charges go for Sh15,000[/i]

To me this is just an improved version of Dr Prophet Kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...


@Atalaku, I get what your point is, but I tend to think this guy is different if you look at it critically. I want to think of him as a coach. If you listen to him, he does training on "how to be the best in what you were created to be". In fact, anybody, whether a Christian or not, can listen to him and apply the principles thereof to better themselves. Motivational speakers are paid top dollar for their time. Mentorship programmes too could be very expensive. This is a bit different from Kanyari who tells you to drink salty water, or cheats you completely using chemicals that unatoka damu. In fact, studies shows that a workforce that has a serious motivational and mentorship programme performs better in the long term. That is why HR departments invests heavily in such issues. Well, I dont know whether you get my side of the coin, but although I respect your version of it, I feel these two people are different in their approach. One is an outright conman, the other works towards bringing the best out of you, and ensuring you are focusing on the important things of life. Or what do you think?

my 2 cents, they are the same, selling a service just operating at different social levels, they both motivate their following using different strategies - one will hoodwink you with the food and aura at safari park while the other will use some cheap chemical to drive home his point.

just depends on which side you are being outwitted from and whether the dupe sticks deep enough for you to believe and thus change your self. smile



Let me ask you guys...would you buy his book on Leadership? Would you pay a teacher who is teaching leadership courses? If you had a company, and you wanted someone to speak to your staff to give them a "punch", would you call Kanyari or the late doctor?



@ washiku It all depends on where each of us gets motivation from. What motivates you may not necessarily motivate me. Some have very different orientations and some have very different perspectives. Some are inspired by objects not necessarily human beings. Its a difficult subject which can best be described by akina @Tycho and @Muriel



Yes we can.

Motivation?

I had asked a question some time back about those whose right it is to be nyanyaswa-d. What is motivation?

Surely someone else's perspective and outlook to life cannot be necessarily be another's.

Motivational speakers to me are like those who promise to multiply money.

If all of us were 'motivated' - logically we cannot (what is success?) - they would not be around. Just as if all of us had all the money - logically we cannot (debt-based-economy) they would not be around.




Excellent answers...true we are all different personally I have never needed the push/drive/change mindset gospel of a motivational speaker to make me do XYZ in my life,I know what I have to and need to do to change different aspects in my life when need be...

@maka...pewa kitu...how can one sit down and listen to one tell him or her how they should plan, prioritize etc. Dont you know you are supposed todo these f***ing things? Nobody tells a couple f*** each other to sire childten... it is automatic... and life can be viewed through those lenses...
Cde Monomotapa
#72 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:22:26 PM
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R.I.P Dr. Munroe 'In Pursuit of Purpose'. One of my most inspirational books.
actuarywahisa
#73 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:43:05 PM
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We do not mourn like those who have no hope but rather ponder in admiration for a life well lived.

The thought of death is scary but ultimately no one is able to preserve his own life. As physical death approaches, throw the valuables of life that it so desires to rob you over the fence where it cannot go so that it may leave disappointed and empty handed. Then proceed to jump over and go re-collect your valuables and keep them forever.
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
washiku
#74 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:52:37 PM
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Ngong
#75 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:23:17 PM
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Another fast crass or same same but different!
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#76 Posted : Friday, November 14, 2014 2:44:22 PM
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All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
D32
#77 Posted : Friday, November 14, 2014 6:08:58 PM
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They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds.
sikitu
#78 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2015 1:33:49 PM
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Anyone with an idea where i can buy This Guy's(Dr.Myles Munroe) Materials i.e Books/DVD?
wazuaguest
#79 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2015 1:51:14 PM
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sikitu wrote:
Anyone with an idea where i can buy This Guy's(Dr.Myles Munroe) Materials i.e Books/DVD?

All over the street vendors of Nairobi
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washiku
#80 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2015 2:14:14 PM
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sikitu wrote:
Anyone with an idea where i can buy This Guy's(Dr.Myles Munroe) Materials i.e Books/DVD?


Ziko in all the bookshops...Textbook Center, Nakumat Books section etc. Hata kwa streets wanauza.
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