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innovator
#121 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 2:42:36 PM
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with no cane the company is an empty vessel
@Njung'e please remind when cane is available.
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hisah
#122 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 4:21:42 PM
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With all the ugly troubles in MSC

Revenue gain in FY 2013 was 9.28% that is, 13.07B vs 11.96B
Market cap at current price 1.40 is 2,142,000,000 i.e 2.14B

Fixing the inefficiencies (corruptions etc) means those revenues start churning decent profits. This is what I see with all the doom and gloom.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#123 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 5:25:40 AM
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Institutionals have cut back their holdings while wanjikus has increased. Ai caramba!

http://www.businessdaily.../-/11p5i37z/-/index.html
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#124 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:52:13 AM
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Is this good news. What will happens if the company becomes upright, efficient and starts making profit ?. Answer:same guys will blindly buy.

Every man on his own
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Akenyan2014
#125 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:16:46 AM
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streetwise wrote:
Is this good news. What will happens if the company becomes upright, efficient and starts making profit ?. Answer:same guys will blindly buy.

Every man on his own


At this rate individual wazuans could successfully launch a take-over bid for these msc remainsd'oh!
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MaichBlack
#126 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 11:34:04 AM
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Might 1.40/= be the bottom???
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Akenyan2014
#127 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:52:07 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Might 1.40/= be the bottom???


Seems the negative news is in such high continuous supply.
What I think of local institutional investors exit:
I think some could have exited at 2-2.5 levels to buy back cheap at 1.3-1.8
Otherwise what explains the huge trading volumes?
I stand corrected.
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#128 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:09:25 PM
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Akenyan2014 wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Might 1.40/= be the bottom???


Seems the negative news is in such high continuous supply.
What I think of local institutional investors exit:
I think some could have exited at 2-2.5 levels to buy back cheap at 1.3-1.8
Otherwise what explains the huge trading volumes?
I stand corrected.


Akenyan, me too I have the same sentiments. Possibly, it could be a time for some to rush in.
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MaichBlack
#129 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:30:22 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Might 1.40/= be the bottom???

Apparently not. 1.35/= prints.

Note to self: No more buying till Friday. Watch the trend.

I have looked at supply and demand, and we are definitely headed lower.

@Sober - Your 1.25/= might be coming soon. Friday or Monday.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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#130 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:45:13 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Might 1.40/= be the bottom???

Apparently not. 1.35/= prints.

Note to self: No more buying till Friday. Watch the trend.

I have looked at supply and demand, and we are definitely headed lower.

@Sober - Your 1.25/= might be coming soon. Friday or Monday.

Then he will shift goal post to 0.50 centssmile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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#131 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:49:56 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Might 1.40/= be the bottom???

Apparently not. 1.35/= prints.

Note to self: No more buying till Friday. Watch the trend.

I have looked at supply and demand, and we are definitely headed lower.

@Sober - Your 1.25/= might be coming soon. Friday or Monday.

Then he will shift goal post to 0.50 centssmile

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

And finally end up buying at 6.00/=.... Quietly!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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urstill1
#132 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:12:27 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Might 1.40/= be the bottom???

Apparently not. 1.35/= prints.

Note to self: No more buying till Friday. Watch the trend.

I have looked at supply and demand, and we are definitely headed lower.

@Sober - Your 1.25/= might be coming soon. Friday or Monday.

Then he will shift goal post to 0.50 centssmile

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

And finally end up buying at 6.00/=.... Quietly!!!


Then state that he bought at 0.8 bob.
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streetwise
#133 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:30:49 PM
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And then cry
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#134 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:31:23 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Might 1.40/= be the bottom???
Some said 3 then 2 was the bottom. Unless it can stop bleeding cash, it will be a problem...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#135 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:32:54 PM
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urstill1 wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Might 1.40/= be the bottom???

Apparently not. 1.35/= prints.

Note to self: No more buying till Friday. Watch the trend.

I have looked at supply and demand, and we are definitely headed lower.

@Sober - Your 1.25/= might be coming soon. Friday or Monday.

Then he will shift goal post to 0.50 centssmile

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

And finally end up buying at 6.00/=.... Quietly!!!


Then state that he bought at 0.8 bob.
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! I am glad I am not in this boat. I almost got in at 2-ish but lucked out when I didn't buy. And the more I look at it, the less inclined I am unless I see a turnaround plan.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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MaichBlack
#136 Posted : Friday, November 14, 2014 10:55:04 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Might 1.40/= be the bottom???

Apparently not. 1.35/= prints.

Note to self: No more buying till Friday. Watch the trend.

I have looked at supply and demand, and we are definitely headed lower.

@Sober - Your 1.25/= might be coming soon. Friday or Monday.

Friday is here! Absolutely no supply. Zero!!!

Kuliko ni?
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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whiteowl
#137 Posted : Friday, November 14, 2014 11:14:09 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Might 1.40/= be the bottom???

Apparently not. 1.35/= prints.

Note to self: No more buying till Friday. Watch the trend.

I have looked at supply and demand, and we are definitely headed lower.

@Sober - Your 1.25/= might be coming soon. Friday or Monday.

Friday is here! Absolutely no supply. Zero!!!

Kuliko ni?

Some hope before a new low prints.I can only get into this thing at 1/= or below
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MaichBlack
#138 Posted : Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25:59 AM
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whiteowl wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Might 1.40/= be the bottom???

Apparently not. 1.35/= prints.

Note to self: No more buying till Friday. Watch the trend.

I have looked at supply and demand, and we are definitely headed lower.

@Sober - Your 1.25/= might be coming soon. Friday or Monday.

Friday is here! Absolutely no supply. Zero!!!

Kuliko ni?

Some hope before a new low prints.I can only get into this thing at 1/= or below

I will not be selling by then. Who will sell to you? I'll be one of the main shareholders...

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

If it becomes insolvent, heart attack pap!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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MaichBlack
#139 Posted : Friday, November 14, 2014 1:37:57 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Might 1.40/= be the bottom???

Apparently not. 1.35/= prints.

Note to self: No more buying till Friday. Watch the trend.

I have looked at supply and demand, and we are definitely headed lower.

@Sober - Your 1.25/= might be coming soon. Friday or Monday.

Friday is here! Absolutely no supply. Zero!!!

Kuliko ni?

Some hope before a new low prints.I can only get into this thing at 1/= or below

I will not be selling by then. Who will sell to you? I'll be one of the main shareholders...

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

If it becomes insolvent, heart attack pap!!!


Still ZERO supply!!! someone is trying to scuttle my "friendly takeover" of the company!!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

And the way I have big plans for the company! For starters I'll be changing the colour of the sugar! How does purple sound??... Ati "brown sugar"?... Hiyo itakuwa ya subsidiary...
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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#140 Posted : Friday, November 14, 2014 1:44:36 PM
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Do you mean negativity has suddenly come to a halt?
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