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Uchumi - A value play?
sparkly
#31 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 1:46:54 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
sparkly wrote:
www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Uchumi-acquires-Dar-supermarket-in-growth-drive/-/539550/2509572/-/24g47z/-/index.html

Uchumi on an acquisition spree.

While Shoprite is exiting TZ.

They have not paid suppliers in Kenya.

They have taken loan of KES 600m from KCB.

Acquisition was financed by debt.

Rights issue to expand into small and insignificant markets of Rwanda Burundi.

Shareholders should be very afraid... Insolvency 2.0 coming soon.


A loan at 18% interest from KCB. And another 405M from Coop bank. That means close to 200M per annum will go in payment of interest leave alone the principal. I wish they were applying the rights to reduce these expensive loans. We have bonds, so why not consider such or place a commercial paper


What insolvency d'oh! d'oh!? if your annual turnover is 14 billion, your annual profits 400 million, and you are borrowing 1 billion secured by 2.2 billion assets. Stop fearing leverage.



If your suppliers have claims to your 2.2B assets and you only get 2.85% return from your 14B turnover, then you have a problem.
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mkonomtupu
#32 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 3:09:22 PM
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sparkly wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
sparkly wrote:
www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Uchumi-acquires-Dar-supermarket-in-growth-drive/-/539550/2509572/-/24g47z/-/index.html

Uchumi on an acquisition spree.

While Shoprite is exiting TZ.

They have not paid suppliers in Kenya.

They have taken loan of KES 600m from KCB.

Acquisition was financed by debt.

Rights issue to expand into small and insignificant markets of Rwanda Burundi.

Shareholders should be very afraid... Insolvency 2.0 coming soon.


A loan at 18% interest from KCB. And another 405M from Coop bank. That means close to 200M per annum will go in payment of interest leave alone the principal. I wish they were applying the rights to reduce these expensive loans. We have bonds, so why not consider such or place a commercial paper


What insolvency d'oh! d'oh!? if your annual turnover is 14 billion, your annual profits 400 million, and you are borrowing 1 billion secured by 2.2 billion assets. Stop fearing leverage.



If your suppliers have claims to your 2.2B assets and you only get 2.85% return from your 14B turnover, then you have a problem.


Aiii wee mboss... in retail you look at credit lines in most suppliers tell you lets put this on the shelf once sold pay us. Anyway looking at the IM Uchumi paid 675m to GoK and 956m to KCB and PTA banks without default or insolvency.

Management says "with benefit of hindsight, the management now observes strict controls on debt management" You can see this from the fact that the ICDC loan of 300m about 109m has been paid and balance outstanding at 191m
KCB overdraft of 200m and short term of 600m- 150m repaid balance of 650m

Now turning to Tanzania, sales grew 10%. The TZ economy grew at 7% in the last 2 years and the formal retail penetration is less than 10%. Now that's huge potential even if it was to get to Kenya's 30% penetration.

Uchumi shareholders d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! you will make me rich again
mkonomtupu
#33 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 3:16:10 PM
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hisah wrote:
I again I ask, who is the underwriter of this rights issue? For Mr Market to discount the price vs rights price that signal is as clear as it gets.


Mr. Market is being stupid but who cares an intelligent investor looks at raw numbers especially the market in Tanzania although Uchumi is yet to begin posting profits from operations there but look at the numbers they don't lie


Quote:
DAR ES SALAAM, Nov 6 (Reuters) - Tanzania's economy grew 7.1 percent in the first half of 2014 from a year earlier, slightly slower than its expansion in the same period of 2013, the government said on Thursday.
Africa's fourth-biggest gold producer, and a major tourist destination, forecasts economic growth of 7.2 percent this year and maintained its forecasts for the next two years on Thursday.
"The economy is expected to expand further to 7.4 percent in 2015 and 7.8 percent in 2016," Stephen Wasira, minister of state in the president's office, said in a presentation to parliament


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Ericsson
#34 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 3:32:09 PM
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mkonomtupu
#35 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 3:38:08 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Anyone with a copy of the Information Memorandum to post here


you can get the IM on the link
http://kenya.uchumicorporate.co.ke/investors
hisah
#36 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 4:59:47 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
hisah wrote:
I again I ask, who is the underwriter of this rights issue? For Mr Market to discount the price vs rights price that signal is as clear as it gets.


Mr. Market is being stupid but who cares an intelligent investor looks at raw numbers especially the market in Tanzania although Uchumi is yet to begin posting profits from operations there but look at the numbers they don't lie


Quote:
DAR ES SALAAM, Nov 6 (Reuters) - Tanzania's economy grew 7.1 percent in the first half of 2014 from a year earlier, slightly slower than its expansion in the same period of 2013, the government said on Thursday.
Africa's fourth-biggest gold producer, and a major tourist destination, forecasts economic growth of 7.2 percent this year and maintained its forecasts for the next two years on Thursday.
"The economy is expected to expand further to 7.4 percent in 2015 and 7.8 percent in 2016," Stephen Wasira, minister of state in the president's office, said in a presentation to parliament


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Interesting this info. The discount is welcome. TA is also oversold smile
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Kingotore
#37 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 8:09:58 PM
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If l don't want the uchumi right. What can l do to share allocated to me?
GOOD TO GREAT. KINGOTORE
Gatheuzi
#38 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 8:24:34 PM
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Kingotore wrote:
If l don't want the uchumi right. What can l do to share allocated to me?

Either;
1) Sell the shares now, I guess they are selling cum (with) rights; or
2) Sell the rights once they start trading.

Sale of rights to only succeed if market price of the shares rises above the rights price.

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VituVingiSana
#39 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 8:37:53 PM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
Kingotore wrote:
If l don't want the uchumi right. What can l do to share allocated to me?

Either;
1) Sell the shares now, I guess they are selling cum (with) rights; or
2) Sell the rights once they start trading.

Sale of rights to only succeed if market price of the shares rises above the rights price.

Reminds me of KQ when Rights were selling for 5 cents. And there were many more sellers than buyers!
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#40 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 11:31:39 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Anyone with a copy of the Information Memorandum to post here


you can get the IM on the link
http://kenya.uchumicorporate.co.ke/investors[/quote]

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