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Dr Myles Munroe
maka
#51 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 3:59:17 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Takeshi wrote:
Kratos wrote:
nakujua wrote:
washiku wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
As we mourn a foreigner let us not forget the 24+ policemen who died on the line of duty recently! To be honest I have not read or listened to anything from him. And I chose not to.

C&P
[i]Dr Myles Munroe will be in Nairobi for his first ever trip to Kenya. He is set to give a talk at the Safari Park Hotel on October 21 dubbed The Potential Dinner. According to the flier, the gate charges go for Sh15,000[/i]

To me this is just an improved version of Dr Prophet Kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...


@Atalaku, I get what your point is, but I tend to think this guy is different if you look at it critically. I want to think of him as a coach. If you listen to him, he does training on "how to be the best in what you were created to be". In fact, anybody, whether a Christian or not, can listen to him and apply the principles thereof to better themselves. Motivational speakers are paid top dollar for their time. Mentorship programmes too could be very expensive. This is a bit different from Kanyari who tells you to drink salty water, or cheats you completely using chemicals that unatoka damu. In fact, studies shows that a workforce that has a serious motivational and mentorship programme performs better in the long term. That is why HR departments invests heavily in such issues. Well, I dont know whether you get my side of the coin, but although I respect your version of it, I feel these two people are different in their approach. One is an outright conman, the other works towards bringing the best out of you, and ensuring you are focusing on the important things of life. Or what do you think?

my 2 cents, they are the same, selling a service just operating at different social levels, they both motivate their following using different strategies - one will hoodwink you with the food and aura at safari park while the other will use some cheap chemical to drive home his point.

just depends on which side you are being outwitted from and whether the dupe sticks deep enough for you to believe and thus change your self. smile


Applause Applause Applause Applause


I wouldn't think of it as being outwitted, rather paying for value(same way you pay for lectures in school), though personally as much as I love his advise, I wouldn't pay that much for attendance, may be 500 bob.


smile
possunt quia posse videntur
Muriel
#52 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 4:08:49 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 11/19/2009
Posts: 3,142
kivairu wrote:
The good doctor didn't die. He lives forever through his works. Fare thee well!





At 2:10, he says "We don't die, we are eternal spirits."


washiku
#53 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 4:09:14 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 5/9/2007
Posts: 13,095
nakujua wrote:
washiku wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
As we mourn a foreigner let us not forget the 24+ policemen who died on the line of duty recently! To be honest I have not read or listened to anything from him. And I chose not to.

C&P
[i]Dr Myles Munroe will be in Nairobi for his first ever trip to Kenya. He is set to give a talk at the Safari Park Hotel on October 21 dubbed The Potential Dinner. According to the flier, the gate charges go for Sh15,000[/i]

To me this is just an improved version of Dr Prophet Kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...


@Atalaku, I get what your point is, but I tend to think this guy is different if you look at it critically. I want to think of him as a coach. If you listen to him, he does training on "how to be the best in what you were created to be". In fact, anybody, whether a Christian or not, can listen to him and apply the principles thereof to better themselves. Motivational speakers are paid top dollar for their time. Mentorship programmes too could be very expensive. This is a bit different from Kanyari who tells you to drink salty water, or cheats you completely using chemicals that unatoka damu. In fact, studies shows that a workforce that has a serious motivational and mentorship programme performs better in the long term. That is why HR departments invests heavily in such issues. Well, I dont know whether you get my side of the coin, but although I respect your version of it, I feel these two people are different in their approach. One is an outright conman, the other works towards bringing the best out of you, and ensuring you are focusing on the important things of life. Or what do you think?

my 2 cents, they are the same, selling a service just operating at different social levels, they both motivate their following using different strategies - one will hoodwink you with the food and aura at safari park while the other will use some cheap chemical to drive home his point.

just depends on which side you are being outwitted from and whether the dupe sticks deep enough for you to believe and thus change your self. smile



Let me ask you guys...would you buy his book on Leadership? Would you pay a teacher who is teaching leadership courses? If you had a company, and you wanted someone to speak to your staff to give them a "punch", would you call Kanyari or the late doctor?
MKWASI
#54 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 5:27:15 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 4/20/2012
Posts: 888
washiku wrote:
nakujua wrote:
washiku wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
As we mourn a foreigner let us not forget the 24+ policemen who died on the line of duty recently! To be honest I have not read or listened to anything from him. And I chose not to.

C&P
[i]Dr Myles Munroe will be in Nairobi for his first ever trip to Kenya. He is set to give a talk at the Safari Park Hotel on October 21 dubbed The Potential Dinner. According to the flier, the gate charges go for Sh15,000[/i]

To me this is just an improved version of Dr Prophet Kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...


@Atalaku, I get what your point is, but I tend to think this guy is different if you look at it critically. I want to think of him as a coach. If you listen to him, he does training on "how to be the best in what you were created to be". In fact, anybody, whether a Christian or not, can listen to him and apply the principles thereof to better themselves. Motivational speakers are paid top dollar for their time. Mentorship programmes too could be very expensive. This is a bit different from Kanyari who tells you to drink salty water, or cheats you completely using chemicals that unatoka damu. In fact, studies shows that a workforce that has a serious motivational and mentorship programme performs better in the long term. That is why HR departments invests heavily in such issues. Well, I dont know whether you get my side of the coin, but although I respect your version of it, I feel these two people are different in their approach. One is an outright conman, the other works towards bringing the best out of you, and ensuring you are focusing on the important things of life. Or what do you think?

my 2 cents, they are the same, selling a service just operating at different social levels, they both motivate their following using different strategies - one will hoodwink you with the food and aura at safari park while the other will use some cheap chemical to drive home his point.

just depends on which side you are being outwitted from and whether the dupe sticks deep enough for you to believe and thus change your self. smile



Let me ask you guys...would you buy his book on Leadership? Would you pay a teacher who is teaching leadership courses? If you had a company, and you wanted someone to speak to your staff to give them a "punch", would you call Kanyari or the late doctor?



@ washiku It all depends on where each of us gets motivation from. What motivates you may not necessarily motivate me. Some have very different orientations and some have very different perspectives. Some are inspired by objects not necessarily human beings. Its a difficult subject which can best be described by akina @Tycho and @Muriel
gk
#55 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 6:44:43 PM
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Joined: 5/17/2008
Posts: 489
If u ever listened to Dr Munroe (RIP) and didn't get moved,then..

I first watched/listened to him more than 10 yrs ago on the subject of "potential and how the cemetery is the richest point on earth". I was awed by his deep intellect and sense of interrogating issues.

So you can imagine my joy at listening/watching him live recently at JCC...

He has made a great contribution to mankind; so lets celebrate him..and his wife too.
nakujua
#56 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 7:27:04 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/17/2009
Posts: 3,583
Location: Kenya
washiku wrote:
nakujua wrote:
washiku wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
As we mourn a foreigner let us not forget the 24+ policemen who died on the line of duty recently! To be honest I have not read or listened to anything from him. And I chose not to.

C&P
[i]Dr Myles Munroe will be in Nairobi for his first ever trip to Kenya. He is set to give a talk at the Safari Park Hotel on October 21 dubbed The Potential Dinner. According to the flier, the gate charges go for Sh15,000[/i]

To me this is just an improved version of Dr Prophet Kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...


@Atalaku, I get what your point is, but I tend to think this guy is different if you look at it critically. I want to think of him as a coach. If you listen to him, he does training on "how to be the best in what you were created to be". In fact, anybody, whether a Christian or not, can listen to him and apply the principles thereof to better themselves. Motivational speakers are paid top dollar for their time. Mentorship programmes too could be very expensive. This is a bit different from Kanyari who tells you to drink salty water, or cheats you completely using chemicals that unatoka damu. In fact, studies shows that a workforce that has a serious motivational and mentorship programme performs better in the long term. That is why HR departments invests heavily in such issues. Well, I dont know whether you get my side of the coin, but although I respect your version of it, I feel these two people are different in their approach. One is an outright conman, the other works towards bringing the best out of you, and ensuring you are focusing on the important things of life. Or what do you think?

my 2 cents, they are the same, selling a service just operating at different social levels, they both motivate their following using different strategies - one will hoodwink you with the food and aura at safari park while the other will use some cheap chemical to drive home his point.

just depends on which side you are being outwitted from and whether the dupe sticks deep enough for you to believe and thus change your self. smile



Let me ask you guys...would you buy his book on Leadership? Would you pay a teacher who is teaching leadership courses? If you had a company, and you wanted someone to speak to your staff to give them a "punch", would you call Kanyari or the late doctor?

Imagine if you own a housegirl/boys agency, or you own a fleet of matatus and you have employed lots of matatu conductors - who would you rather talks to them ?

either way, life has different views - if you only look at it through your lens it will always be distorted in only one way and you will think that is the correct one.
obiero
#57 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 7:42:46 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,321
Location: nairobi
some of the people putting down the impact of this man do not have anything to leave behind for mankind.. atleast I have a MBA thesis from a top university to be read by future generations, google 'collins obiero mba impact'.. dont mean to sound rude, but its just wrong to disrespect the dead..
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
maka
#58 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 7:54:08 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
some of the people putting down the impact of this man do not have anything to leave behind for mankind.. atleast I have a MBA thesis from a top university to be read by future generations, google 'collins obiero mba impact'.. dont mean to sound rude, but its just wrong to disrespect the dead..

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possunt quia posse videntur
Atalaku
#59 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 7:54:43 PM
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Joined: 9/7/2010
Posts: 1,063
Location: Kenya
[quote=obiero some of the people putting down the impact of this man do not have anything to leave behind for mankind.. atleast I have a MBA thesis from a top university to be read by future generations, google 'collins obiero mba impact'.. dont mean to sound rude, but its just wrong to disrespect the dead..[/quote]
Hahahahaha...if people were to place their achievements here you would go hiding with your MBA...
Atalaku
#60 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 9:52:24 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/7/2010
Posts: 1,063
Location: Kenya
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