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tycho
#31 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 5:58:09 PM
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Muriel wrote:
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What is 'it'?


Hahaha! You've just been using the word. Could you be using it without knowing what it symbolizes?


Laugh.

No, you are the one soliciting for definitions of it, from me and Mtu Biz.

What it is. Or who it is.


I think you are now evading the question. You have quoted something up there and drawn a conclusion. I wanted to understand what you meant, so I naturally asked what you meant.

But you turned the question back to me. Why?


Because.

Yes, I evaded the question. Slick eh?

Laugh

From what I put up there, I think 'mind' is 'society', the 'us', the 'people who think of 'this' future'.


If that's what you mean by 'mind' then renegades must be part of 'us'. And your assertion is true.



What is 'renegade'?


ren·e·gade /ˈrenəˌɡād/
noun
a person who deserts and betrays an
organization, country, or set of principles.
adjective
having treacherously changed allegiance.

treach·er·ous /ˈtreCH(ə)rəs/
adjective
guilty of or involving betrayal or deception.

I also acknowledge any positive definition possible.


Thank you.

As the naming word, how then can 'renegade' be part of 'us'? What makes you assume its 'negative'?


First, who does 'us' comprise of? Can you count 'us'? Again if mind is 'us', then does a renegade have a mind?

I 'assume' it's negative because one of my teachers said, a 'heretic' glories in his 'orthodoxy'. But a heretic who glories in heresy can't be true.



I think 'us' comprise singularity.

One.

That further implies count. Numeration. Multiplicity.

Hence One is multiple and so negative becomes positive.

Renegade is positive.

Beautiful!


Yes. Beautiful.
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tycho
#32 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 6:02:30 PM
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symbols wrote:
The conscious mind can process definitions but can't process meaning.The subconscious mind can process meaning but can't process definitions.

The conscious mind understands structure and parameters.The subconscious mind understands association.

The conscious mind 'quantifying' the subconscious mind and the subconscious mind 'qualifying' the conscious mind.The science of art and the art of science.


All fusing into one. Given that Man can experience this fusion, and observe it as a witness, can we know the place of Man in the Universe?

Man is the universe being conscious of itself.
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symbols
#33 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 6:51:55 AM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
The conscious mind can process definitions but can't process meaning.The subconscious mind can process meaning but can't process definitions.

The conscious mind understands structure and parameters.The subconscious mind understands association.

The conscious mind 'quantifying' the subconscious mind and the subconscious mind 'qualifying' the conscious mind.The science of art and the art of science.


All fusing into one. Given that Man can experience this fusion, and observe it as a witness, can we know the place of Man in the Universe?

Man is the universe being conscious of itself.



Which comes first,knowing of feeling or feeling of knowing?
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tycho
#34 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 7:25:23 AM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
The conscious mind can process definitions but can't process meaning.The subconscious mind can process meaning but can't process definitions.

The conscious mind understands structure and parameters.The subconscious mind understands association.

The conscious mind 'quantifying' the subconscious mind and the subconscious mind 'qualifying' the conscious mind.The science of art and the art of science.


All fusing into one. Given that Man can experience this fusion, and observe it as a witness, can we know the place of Man in the Universe?

Man is the universe being conscious of itself.



Which comes first,knowing of feeling or feeling of knowing?


Studies in human development - Piaget mostly - show that every cognitive act is also affective. Such that knowing is feeling and vice versa. But as language has developed humans have grown to suppress feeling to the extent of thinking or believing that one comes before the other.
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Muriel
#35 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:21:55 AM
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Yes. Beautiful.


I have a feeling you are pulling my leg.

What is beautiful?
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tycho
#36 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:18:28 AM
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Muriel wrote:
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Yes. Beautiful.


I have a feeling you are pulling my leg.

What is beautiful?


beau·ti·ful /ˈbyo͞odəfəl/
adjective
pleasing the senses or mind aesthetically.

Seeing the mind in action. Or rather, something is beautiful when it rhymes with the flow of the mind.
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Muriel
#37 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 11:56:29 AM
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tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
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Yes. Beautiful.


I have a feeling you are pulling my leg.

What is beautiful?


beau·ti·ful /ˈbyo͞odəfəl/
adjective
pleasing the senses or mind aesthetically.

Seeing the mind in action. Or rather, something is beautiful when it rhymes with the flow of the mind.


Even the renegade mind?
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tycho
#38 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:03:40 PM
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Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:


Yes. Beautiful.


I have a feeling you are pulling my leg.

What is beautiful?


beau·ti·ful /ˈbyo͞odəfəl/
adjective
pleasing the senses or mind aesthetically.

Seeing the mind in action. Or rather, something is beautiful when it rhymes with the flow of the mind.


Even the renegade mind?


I see you're introducing a new definition of 'mind'. Or are we using the definition you offered?

But as for 'renegades' they are beautiful.
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Muriel
#39 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 2:08:26 PM
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tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:


Yes. Beautiful.


I have a feeling you are pulling my leg.

What is beautiful?


beau·ti·ful /ˈbyo͞odəfəl/
adjective
pleasing the senses or mind aesthetically.

Seeing the mind in action. Or rather, something is beautiful when it rhymes with the flow of the mind.


Even the renegade mind?


I see you're introducing a new definition of 'mind'. Or are we using the definition you offered?

But as for 'renegades' they are beautiful.


Hhhhhmmmmm.


hHHMMMM
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tycho
#40 Posted : Friday, November 07, 2014 8:31:49 PM
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This man has really 'bent time to his will'. He's an alien, mainly because he knows where the real fight is and has learned how to win. http://www.theguardian.c...rld-title-atlantic-city

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