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Jicho Pevu - Makri Ya Injili on Pastor Kanyari
tycho
#261 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:23:44 AM
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Can, and should an atheist ask why there's so much evil? What does such a question mean?
Tokyo
#262 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:38:58 AM
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tycho wrote:
Are atheists criminals? And con men?

Or are they any different from Kanyari? For me, I see no difference.

Shame on you Shame on you
work to prosper
Tokyo
#263 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:47:59 AM
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tycho wrote:
Can, and should an atheist ask why there's so much evil? What does such a question mean?
we can and we should. An "evil" is one which isn't suitable or acceptable to others. Evil=wrong.
work to prosper
tycho
#264 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 11:09:17 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
tycho wrote:
Can, and should an atheist ask why there's so much evil? What does such a question mean?
we can and we should. An "evil" is one which isn't suitable or acceptable to others. Evil=wrong.


Hahaha! So, who are 'others'?
tycho
#265 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 11:12:38 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
tycho wrote:
Are atheists criminals? And con men?

Or are they any different from Kanyari? For me, I see no difference.

Shame on you Shame on you


Ngoja tuone.
Atalaku
#266 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:11:55 PM
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tycho wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
tycho wrote:
Can, and should an atheist ask why there's so much evil? What does such a question mean?
we can and we should. An "evil" is one which isn't suitable or acceptable to others. Evil=wrong.


Hahaha! So, who are 'others'?

"...When the madness of an entire nation enters a solitary mind, it not good to say the man is mad" (Betrayal in the city...The late Francis Imbuga)
...This man has been conversing with himself since morning. He needs help. If anybidy knows him please take him tge nearest psychiatrist for a checkup!!!
Wainadi
#267 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:39:22 PM
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Lets not forget the 'Choti' debacle was used in potraying christians as greedy sub-human in the indoctrination video's of the extremists, brace yourself for more church attacks, when the Kanyonyo's fiasco is added to the mix.
Its all good.
Atalaku
#268 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 1:00:32 PM
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@Tycho with capital T and@tycho with small t...
tycho
#269 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 1:35:13 PM
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Atalaku wrote:
tycho wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
tycho wrote:
Can, and should an atheist ask why there's so much evil? What does such a question mean?
we can and we should. An "evil" is one which isn't suitable or acceptable to others. Evil=wrong.


Hahaha! So, who are 'others'?

"...When the madness of an entire nation enters a solitary mind, it not good to say the man is mad" (Betrayal in the city...The late Francis Imbuga)
...This man has been conversing with himself since morning. He needs help. If anybidy knows him please take him tge nearest psychiatrist for a checkup!!!


@Atalaku, a post can indeed help a reader to discern the psychological state of the 'poster'. And your observation I see is right to the extent of your person and any other person who shares your experience.

I'd like to make amends. But can you explain how Imbuga's quote is related to the last paragraph? It's not so clear.

tycho
#270 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 1:41:27 PM
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Atalaku wrote:
@Tycho with capital T and@tycho with small t...


Thank you for the hint.
Muriel
#271 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 2:15:47 PM
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tycho wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
tycho wrote:
Are atheists criminals? And con men?

Or are they any different from Kanyari? For me, I see no difference.

Shame on you Shame on you


Ngoja tuone.



So far, the atheists have not raised any serious issues. Its like they are probing. Gauging. Provoking.

Or could it be they have nothing to say?
kysse
#272 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 4:58:44 PM
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DPP Tobiko issues investigation orders. Jail or fined if found guilty.
jaggernaut
#273 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 5:15:58 PM
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kysse wrote:
DPP Tobiko issues investigation orders. Jail or fined if found guilty.


How will they prove that someone was prayed for and never got healed, or never received blessings. Kanyari will argue that the "prayees" faith was weak.
Rankaz13
#274 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:34:28 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
kysse wrote:
DPP Tobiko issues investigation orders. Jail or fined if found guilty.


How will they prove that someone was prayed for and never got healed, or never received blessings. Kanyari will argue that the "prayees" faith was weak.


Has he been filing his returns as required of him by the Societies Act?
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kysse
#275 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:43:47 PM
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Rankaz13 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
kysse wrote:
DPP Tobiko issues investigation orders. Jail or fined if found guilty.


How will they prove that someone was prayed for and never got healed, or never received blessings. Kanyari will argue that the "prayees" faith was weak.


Has he been filing his returns as required of him by the Societies Act?


no,guilty of fraud,though I dont see this heading anywhere..
the mum was jailed for the same offence and released,now she runs hq from God knows where.
newfarer
#276 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:13:05 PM
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Rankaz13 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
kysse wrote:
DPP Tobiko issues investigation orders. Jail or fined if found guilty.


How will they prove that someone was prayed for and never got healed, or never received blessings. Kanyari will argue that the "prayees" faith was weak.


Has he been filing his returns as required of him by the Societies Act?


no he is registered at the ministry of agriculture alongsides kenya seeds company.
punda amecheka
Kaigangio
#277 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:13:41 PM
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kysse wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
kysse wrote:
DPP Tobiko issues investigation orders. Jail or fined if found guilty.


How will they prove that someone was prayed for and never got healed, or never received blessings. Kanyari will argue that the "prayees" faith was weak.


Has he been filing his returns as required of him by the Societies Act?


no,guilty of fraud,though I dont see this heading anywhere..
the mum was jailed for the same offence and released,now she runs hq from God knows where.


if the customer paid for a service which was not satisfactory irrespective of its nature, then the provider is most likely guilty...
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
masukuma
#278 Posted : Friday, November 07, 2014 10:11:52 AM
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kysse wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
kysse wrote:
DPP Tobiko issues investigation orders. Jail or fined if found guilty.


How will they prove that someone was prayed for and never got healed, or never received blessings. Kanyari will argue that the "prayees" faith was weak.


Has he been filing his returns as required of him by the Societies Act?


no,guilty of fraud,though I dont see this heading anywhere..
the mum was jailed for the same offence and released,now she runs hq from God knows where.

If I remember correctly the mum was jailed coz of the scam with some laboratories - you go there and you are declared HIV -ve! not praying for people with HIV. Kanyari's problem is that he like Maina Kageni coached people that called in! Akina Sarah who had all these issues were presenters in the sarakasi.... ni kama movie... ndlama findio
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Muriel
#279 Posted : Friday, November 07, 2014 4:53:05 PM
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'World's poorest president' gets $1mn offer for old VW Beetle

Here is an earthling, a pot-smoking leader, ex-guerilla leader who caused anarchy in his hey-days who has been observed to note:

"A president is a high-level official who is elected to carry out a function. He is not a king, not a god. He is not the witch doctor of a tribe who knows everything. He is a civil servant. I think the ideal way of living is to live like the vast majority of people whom we attempt to serve and represent,".

As for addictions, the only one he says matters is "love." - yet we have 'men of God' who from mere observation are more addicted to cash flow than love - their primary calling.

Strange, crazy and foreign sermon from a worldly source.
washiku
#280 Posted : Sunday, November 09, 2014 5:01:16 PM
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