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Jicho Pevu - Makri Ya Injili on Pastor Kanyari
Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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Much Know wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:
Do you want the government to deny the masses the opportunity to transition from 'thick' to knowledge ?
In your own words: "Even if you do 1000 exposes there will always be a market for what Kanyiri or Kyuna is selling." Kwa hivo sasa? this market will always be there as you seem to be well aware, i agree, it will be always there! you need to protect them, it is obvious where action is needed, you need to act on the crooks, one crook and a pool of one thousand "thick people", what do you deal with? As you may be aware even after this expose, people may still go back there, some old lady with her paltry pension and her "faith" which will be wasted on a second hand range rover, you cannot give these thieves a chance to con so people learn, for some it will be too late. @much know You are angry which is ok but listen. No government anywhere can prevent anyone from being conned. The government can choose to hunt down and destroy a con but that will not make any 'thick' citizen any more knowledgeable or aware. You get conned, you understand more about yourself and the world around you better...you possibly teach others. Willing buyer willing seller. When the buyer begins to see less value than they spent or are spending.. they opt out. Free market. Wacha watu wagongwe
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 1,063 Location: Kenya
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@mukiri...you seem to believe so much in witchcraft. A true man of God...I can help ypu with charms to increase the number of flock in your church...
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/7/2010 Posts: 728 Location: Wazuaville
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I have no problem with pastors getting rich.MY problem is the lyingthat Kanyari engages in. fake call-ins, fake KMno4 miracles and healings. a guy with HIV, cancer ebola marburg comes to you and you pretend to heal them and they give you 100K hio ni utapeli. But a preacher giving you the word, counselling you motivating you providing a forum where you can network and you give them money hio ni sawa. Akina Mark Kariuki and J.B have even built schools and hospitals, others organize free clinics; that is great they offer scientific medicine even as they pray; that is all good. Lakini Kanyari hio ni mang'aa "Money never sleeps"
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/7/2010 Posts: 728 Location: Wazuaville
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Muriel wrote:urstill1 wrote:Continue hating!!  Motorcycles play no role in spirituality. If they did, so would AK47. (Holla holla Guru! I miss you!) There would be no fundamental difference. Metal would still be metal. Hii ni carnality. 'Fleshility'. it's OK for a pastor to play with toys. enjoying life is not a sin; how you enjoy life is where the line lies "Money never sleeps"
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Betty Waitherero has some insightful comments that escaped the good journalist, Ms. Mutoko.Quote:To declare, in a mocking sense, that we are all guilty as a nation (for the events of 2007) is to attempt to spread the mantle of guilt around, and to diminish the weight of responsibility borne by the guilty parties. To extrapolate the logic, by declaring that "WE would VOTE for him, it is who we are, it is how we are" and seeking by ascribing the guilt of what happened to the entire country (the voting in of persons with questionable characters and dignities etc) is certainly a novel way of escaping reality. Hallucinations. Psychosis. Quote: ,,,, yet with claims of “collective guilt” and no apology forthcoming, it is doubtful that these politicians (or journalist, in this case) really feels what they say. With that, we dismiss the journalist.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Money Whisperer wrote:Muriel wrote:urstill1 wrote:Continue hating!! Motorcycles play no role in spirituality. If they did, so would AK47. (Holla holla Guru! I miss you!) There would be no fundamental difference. Metal would still be metal. Hii ni carnality. 'Fleshility'. it's OK for a pastor to play with toys. enjoying life is not a sin; how you enjoy life is where the line lies Play? As in amuse oneself? Tickle one's senses? Appreciate torque as one zooms away? Make heads turn at the boom of the exhaust? Be the talk of town with one's shiny new, exotic machine? Why not? As soon as he can tell Hamburglar, and those in the grind, why there is presently being experienced lots of suffering and pain in the world when there is a good God who is currently showering one with expensive toys. Some things we do do more to entrench sin and rebellion against God than all the verbal sermons we give to 'save' from sin.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Money Whisperer wrote:I have no problem with pastors getting rich.MY problem is the lyingthat Kanyari engages in. fake call-ins, fake KMno4 miracles and healings. a guy with HIV, cancer ebola marburg comes to you and you pretend to heal them and they give you 100K hio ni utapeli. But a preacher giving you the word, counselling you motivating you providing a forum where you can network and you give them money hio ni sawa. Akina Mark Kariuki and J.B have even built schools and hospitals, others organize free clinics; that is great they offer scientific medicine even as they pray; that is all good. Lakini Kanyari hio ni mang'aa Most folk are of the the same persuasion. The Church/Christian mudslinging here, is from people with different spiritual affiliations, who've found an avenue to exploit. An have no doubt they'll squeeze it dry, if it means 100 posts
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Money Whisperer wrote:I have no problem with pastors getting rich.MY problem is the lyingthat Kanyari engages in. fake call-ins, fake KMno4 miracles and healings. a guy with HIV, cancer ebola marburg comes to you and you pretend to heal them and they give you 100K hio ni utapeli. But a preacher giving you the word, counselling you motivating you providing a forum where you can network and you give them money hio ni sawa. Akina Mark Kariuki and J.B have even built schools and hospitals, others organize free clinics; that is great they offer scientific medicine even as they pray; that is all good. Lakini Kanyari hio ni mang'aa so what happens if there are those in the mark kariuki or jb congregations who are not helped by the counseling or the who are not motivated by the motivational talks, or who fail to network in their social circles - does that mean they are conned by the same pastors. ama these pastors have 100% record in counseling, motivating and networking guys? Just because a particular way of practicing religion does not amuse you does not mean its not the right way to all others.
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