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Jicho Pevu - Makri Ya Injili on Pastor Kanyari
Wendz
#221 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 8:37:58 AM
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tycho wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
tycho wrote:
Many prophets have gone through the process of being called 'false prophets, and teachers. Many have lost their lives either being the prophets, their supporters or their persecutors. And not unless we have a clear and shared standard of measurement, we can't claim to know the difference between a true or false prophet, especially when we have so much cultural diversity courtesy of globalization and enhanced communication and ubiquitous information.

You are either a Kanyari assistant or deeply brainwashed! This Kanyari issue is not subject to interpretation. It is in black and white! The secret recordings totally outted him. Did you watch the same thing everyone else watched?


Hahaha! What makes this issue black and white? People have always paid for prayers. Scripts are run in masses, miracles are created for the good of the people.

Five years ago, I encountered Kanyari. He had come to Kibera. I listened to him and even went to a kesha in his church. At that time it was in some building along mfangano street opposite KNUT hall. And what I experienced gave me 'malaria' for a whole week. My mind was traumatized.

And now you guys have watched a movie and are out and about enraged that you've nabbed a false prophet. Now media personalities are the guides as to what's good and bad? What of the people who don't watch TV like me? Or those who can bribe the media to look away. What about the in betweens who have a more powerful clientele?

Per chance @maichblack, have you been following Dr. David Githii's thoughts? Or the anarchy in the mainstream Churches?

The reason for Kanyari's roguery can't be a chemical reaction, or the capitalization on fear and ignorance or desperation.



lets just say, we got malaria like you did. just give us one week to recover.
Wendz
#222 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 8:41:09 AM
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Joined: 6/19/2008
Posts: 4,268
jaggernaut wrote:
Kanyari has defended himself:

C&P from Nation

According to Mr Kanyari, audiences can send up to
Sh500,000 after a single episode of preaching. He
said he uses the money to expand his ministry.
“The seed money builds the church, buys a car like
this (pointing to his Ranger Rover Sport)
, buys
church vans and buses and we also assists
orphans,” he said. Until last month, he had two
television programmes a week.
According to him, all churches ask for money from
their followers and he said he felt unfairly judged
for asking his members to give to the Lord.
“The seed money has been called different names.
In some churches, it is called sacrificial seed, in
other churches it is offering. Mine is called a seed
of faith,” he said.

The story, aired on KTN, also showed footage in
which he appeared to be falsifying phone calls on a
radio programme recorded from his house.
“That one I will admit I was wrong,” he said when
confronted with the question. “It was not a live
recording. We did that to encourage people to call
so that they can receive their prayer.


Which "lord"?
Uram
#223 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 8:42:00 AM
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Location: Nairobi
hamburglar wrote:
As an atheist, i get persecuted here for saying that religious people are weak minded. Isn't this kawhatever guy's shenanigans evidence enough to support my assertions? You will never see a group of atheists getting brainwashed and conned in broad daylight like that. Never ever, Bacause we atheists use common sense. We are not gullible. I feel sorry for such people, maybe if they renounced religion and those many imaginary gods, they can learn to employ their brains and start thinking rationally. How can these people believe that somebody can actually heal HIV? Surely, just how ignorant are religious people? It's shocking.

Being an atheist is the best thing that can happen to someone. It's very liberating. Sometimes i can't help but laugh out loud when i see religious people praying sijuii in tongues or whatever. You can pray until you are blue in the face and nothing will happen. Use your brain religious people, emancipate yourselves from such nonsense.


Baseless....why even argue on things you don't believe they exist.You must be the most ignorant person around
Muriel
#224 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 8:52:58 AM
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Posts: 3,142
MaichBlack wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Muriel wrote:
McReggae wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
masukuma wrote:

Quote:
As you work your ass off during the week this is your pastor playing golf waiting for Sunday!




Yep. Your 10% tithe sustains the lifestyle.


....and deleted the tweet!



He did not check his attitude at the cross.

Daddy smile smile smile

This one has totally brainwashed his congregation. They have to refer to the Kyunas as Daddy and Mum. Even grown a$$ [middle class] men and women!!! And his arrogance which should be obvious to the congregation is not.

One day I heard [I was not watching - just chillin] him preaching on TV about the promise God has given us and he likened it to the promise he made to his daughter of buying her a car when she turned 18 [or 21 - I was not too keen]. He gave the whole story up to the part where he gave the daughter a brand new BMW!!! No problem giving your daughter a BMW but this guy had no money before he started preaching. None! Read his story. So which money is he using??? Offerings!!! And all the time watu wanawika tu Amen and Hallelujah. ni dawa gani watu wanawekewaga akili ina lock?? Hata Alt + Ctrl + Delete can't help??

I know someone who used to attend the church. They contributed money and bought him a "befitting" car. Then two years later, the wife comes to church earlier than the husband and tells the congregation "Such and such a date is daddy's birthday. I want us to 'surprise' him with a V8 [Or whatever - never mind V8 is not a car]". The church shouts amen. They agree on how they will jitolea to make sure they surprise daddy! That's the day the person who was telling me the story left the church. Luckily for her, she had not checked her brain at the door like the rest!



I'd rather die than call someone else baba. Or daddy. Or father. Hiyo ni cult.

Akili imewekwa lock?

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jaggernaut
#225 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 8:55:06 AM
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Why is it that gays and atheists are always crying for attention?
Muriel
#226 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 8:55:50 AM
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alma wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
@Mukiri - For your information, I believe in God 100%. I don't question the Bible.

But guess what!? I have my God given intelligence and a proper education and will not be taken for a ride by people stealing in the name of the Lord.

Are all pastor/priests etc. crooks?? Of course not!!! But a majority are!!

A few are okay and stick to the teachings of the Bible. One pastor I have had a chance to listen to for years - since when he was preaching in a tent and interpreting for Reinhard Bonnke - is J.B. Masinde. I have never had any issue with him. When preaching, he doesn't dwell on money. He preaches the gospel. People give offerings but it is not the main agenda.

It's nice to know you 'believe in God 100%', have 'God given intelligence' and a 'proper education'.... It is my prayer that in you, is also humility and that you shall heed God's call not to judge others, whether or not you have sin, yourself.

Imagine if on that material day, those you so mocked and condemned, were welcomed to Heaven, while the 'righteous' you... was disowned by God. Let Him be God. Wacha kufanya kazi Yake.

Live and let live.


Mukiri, let me mock you accordingly.

I don't know which Bible you read but I can assure 100% that there is no column in the book of life that talks about, the amount of money this sinner gave to the pastor.

That doesn't exist.

Money will not be a currency in heaven or even in hell for that matter.

So forgive us if we mock people who think that their ticket to heaven is giving money to a fellow to buy a V8. Yaani, you even try to bribe God.


Absolutely, Alma.

You cannot do such things and reap heaven.

One cannot be an actor in deception here on earth then expect to enjoy the society of heaven dwellers in eternity.

There is no need to imagine, we only need to read about reaping what is sown.

Why are you asking for forgiveness? Why are you not sure of yourself?
Muriel
#227 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:00:33 AM
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urstill1 wrote:

Continue hating!!




Motorcycles play no role in spirituality.

If they did, so would AK47. (Holla holla Guru! I miss you!) There would be no fundamental difference. Metal would still be metal.

Hii ni carnality.

'Fleshility'.
Atalaku
#228 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:41:05 AM
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Joined: 9/7/2010
Posts: 1,063
Location: Kenya
Muriel wrote:
alma wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
@Mukiri - For your information, I believe in God 100%. I don't question the Bible.

But guess what!? I have my God given intelligence and a proper education and will not be taken for a ride by people stealing in the name of the Lord.

Are all pastor/priests etc. crooks?? Of course not!!! But a majority are!!

A few are okay and stick to the teachings of the Bible. One pastor I have had a chance to listen to for years - since when he was preaching in a tent and interpreting for Reinhard Bonnke - is J.B. Masinde. I have never had any issue with him. When preaching, he doesn't dwell on money. He preaches the gospel. People give offerings but it is not the main agenda.

It's nice to know you 'believe in God 100%', have 'God given intelligence' and a 'proper education'.... It is my prayer that in you, is also humility and that you shall heed God's call not to judge others, whether or not you have sin, yourself.

Imagine if on that material day, those you so mocked and condemned, were welcomed to Heaven, while the 'righteous' you... was disowned by God. Let Him be God. Wacha kufanya kazi Yake.

Live and let live.


Mukiri, let me mock you accordingly.

I don't know which Bible you read but I can assure 100% that there is no column in the book of life that talks about, the amount of money this sinner gave to the pastor.

That doesn't exist.

Money will not be a currency in heaven or even in hell for that matter.

So forgive us if we mock people who think that their ticket to heaven is giving money to a fellow to buy a V8. Yaani, you even try to bribe God.


Absolutely, Alma.

You cannot do such things and reap heaven.

One cannot be an actor in deception here on earth then expect to enjoy the society of heaven dwellers in eternity.

There is no need to imagine, we only need to read about reaping what is sown.

Why are you asking for forgiveness? Why are you not sure of yourself?

...your argument with @mukiri will take you nowhere... He is worse than Bastard Kanyari. He counts tithes and offerings for a mega church. He benefits immensely from that by pinching afew thousands during the exercise and being paid for whatever he does in the church.
Museveni
#229 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:04:03 AM
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Meanwhile:


Live and learn; and don’t forget, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
MaichBlack
#230 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:11:45 AM
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Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,911
And "Daddy" pisses of people online with his arrogance!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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