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Jicho Pevu - Makri Ya Injili on Pastor Kanyari
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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Oh why oh why do we have this false anger going around? Is it because by exposing him, we let the world see how Kenyan Pastors are a gang of thieves? I ask again. Before you go around throwing stones at Panda 310. What is your pastor doing? Is there any difference? Taking money for reading 40 minutes of a sermon about hope for the deprived flock? That is a con game. Whether you like to hear it or not, your current pastor may just be a conman who can afford good publicity. But he's still a conman. So stop with abusing someone's wife. She wasn't asking you for your money. Go back and ask your pastor what the hell he did with your tithe last weekend. Did he buy his wife a new dress, fresh underwear, a bra? Or did he actually help someone who God wanted helped with your money? Hii tithe is the biggest con going on in Kenya and has all the blessings of the wonderful everlasting and to be worshipped Kenyan pastors. Show me a pastor driving a bmw and a range rover and I will show you a conman. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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MaichBlack wrote:tycho wrote:Many prophets have gone through the process of being called 'false prophets, and teachers. Many have lost their lives either being the prophets, their supporters or their persecutors. And not unless we have a clear and shared standard of measurement, we can't claim to know the difference between a true or false prophet, especially when we have so much cultural diversity courtesy of globalization and enhanced communication and ubiquitous information. You are either a Kanyari assistant or deeply brainwashed! This Kanyari issue is not subject to interpretation. It is in black and white! The secret recordings totally outted him. Did you watch the same thing everyone else watched? Hahaha! What makes this issue black and white? People have always paid for prayers. Scripts are run in masses, miracles are created for the good of the people. Five years ago, I encountered Kanyari. He had come to Kibera. I listened to him and even went to a kesha in his church. At that time it was in some building along mfangano street opposite KNUT hall. And what I experienced gave me 'malaria' for a whole week. My mind was traumatized. And now you guys have watched a movie and are out and about enraged that you've nabbed a false prophet. Now media personalities are the guides as to what's good and bad? What of the people who don't watch TV like me? Or those who can bribe the media to look away. What about the in betweens who have a more powerful clientele? Per chance @maichblack, have you been following Dr. David Githii's thoughts? Or the anarchy in the mainstream Churches? The reason for Kanyari's roguery can't be a chemical reaction, or the capitalization on fear and ignorance or desperation.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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tycho wrote:MaichBlack wrote:tycho wrote:Many prophets have gone through the process of being called 'false prophets, and teachers. Many have lost their lives either being the prophets, their supporters or their persecutors. And not unless we have a clear and shared standard of measurement, we can't claim to know the difference between a true or false prophet, especially when we have so much cultural diversity courtesy of globalization and enhanced communication and ubiquitous information. You are either a Kanyari assistant or deeply brainwashed! This Kanyari issue is not subject to interpretation. It is in black and white! The secret recordings totally outted him. Did you watch the same thing everyone else watched? Hahaha! What makes this issue black and white? People have always paid for prayers. Scripts are run in masses, miracles are created for the good of the people. Five years ago, I encountered Kanyari. He had come to Kibera. I listened to him and even went to a kesha in his church. At that time it was in some building along mfangano street opposite KNUT hall. And what I experienced gave me 'malaria' for a whole week. My mind was traumatized. And now you guys have watched a movie and are out and about enraged that you've nabbed a false prophet. Now media personalities are the guides as to what's good and bad? What of the people who don't watch TV like me? Or those who can bribe the media to look away. What about the in betweens who have a more powerful clientele? Per chance @maichblack, have you been following Dr. David Githii's thoughts? Or the anarchy in the mainstream Churches? The reason for Kanyari's roguery can't be a chemical reaction, or the capitalization on fear and ignorance or desperation. So you agree he's ROGUE. Haha hehe you enjoy teasing ppl's mind philosopher. keep up. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2012 Posts: 1,461 Location: Ngong Forest
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Wah! these guests wamekuwa wengi sana tena permanent
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Boris Boyka wrote:tycho wrote:MaichBlack wrote:tycho wrote:Many prophets have gone through the process of being called 'false prophets, and teachers. Many have lost their lives either being the prophets, their supporters or their persecutors. And not unless we have a clear and shared standard of measurement, we can't claim to know the difference between a true or false prophet, especially when we have so much cultural diversity courtesy of globalization and enhanced communication and ubiquitous information. You are either a Kanyari assistant or deeply brainwashed! This Kanyari issue is not subject to interpretation. It is in black and white! The secret recordings totally outted him. Did you watch the same thing everyone else watched? Hahaha! What makes this issue black and white? People have always paid for prayers. Scripts are run in masses, miracles are created for the good of the people. Five years ago, I encountered Kanyari. He had come to Kibera. I listened to him and even went to a kesha in his church. At that time it was in some building along mfangano street opposite KNUT hall. And what I experienced gave me 'malaria' for a whole week. My mind was traumatized. And now you guys have watched a movie and are out and about enraged that you've nabbed a false prophet. Now media personalities are the guides as to what's good and bad? What of the people who don't watch TV like me? Or those who can bribe the media to look away. What about the in betweens who have a more powerful clientele? Per chance @maichblack, have you been following Dr. David Githii's thoughts? Or the anarchy in the mainstream Churches? The reason for Kanyari's roguery can't be a chemical reaction, or the capitalization on fear and ignorance or desperation. So you agree he's ROGUE. Haha hehe you enjoy teasing ppl's mind philosopher. keep up. I don't agree he's rogue on the basis given here. My sentiments are different from claims of roguery. Me being traumatized doesn't imply such a conclusion.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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Ngong wrote:Wah! these guests wamekuwa wengi sana tena permanent for the whole day guests have been ranging from 35-70 mostly 60's. so you noticed too. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,595
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 1,063 Location: Kenya
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An astute businessman with a very clear objective and set targets. People should give others space to do what they are good at. If you are that gullible to be tricked shauri yako. I dont give any tithes or offerings but I help needy people. Tithing is an old testament concept that is not applicable today. Those who have studied theology well know this. These so called men of God are skunks out to prey on ignorant people. I love God with all my heart. But I dont need a go between between me and my God.
...contributions every sunday to build churches and I font know what. We already have too many churches in this country. Let us fill those first.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/27/2010 Posts: 266 Location: Nairobi
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alma wrote:Oh why oh why do we have this false anger going around? Is it because by exposing him, we let the world see how Kenyan Pastors are a gang of thieves?
I ask again. Before you go around throwing stones at Panda 310. What is your pastor doing? Is there any difference? Taking money for reading 40 minutes of a sermon about hope for the deprived flock? That is a con game.
Whether you like to hear it or not, your current pastor may just be a conman who can afford good publicity. But he's still a conman.
So stop with abusing someone's wife. She wasn't asking you for your money.
Go back and ask your pastor what the hell he did with your tithe last weekend. Did he buy his wife a new dress, fresh underwear, a bra? Or did he actually help someone who God wanted helped with your money?
Hii tithe is the biggest con going on in Kenya and has all the blessings of the wonderful everlasting and to be worshipped Kenyan pastors. Show me a pastor driving a bmw and a range rover and I will show you a conman.  Watu waache Kanyari atengeze pesa. If people want to be conned, iko nini? Kanyari's only crime was getting caught. I see similar cases every sunday in the so called mainstream churches. How did "Mum" and "Dad" get to build that palace in Runda? And to see them floss their Harley Davidsons on the cover of magazines makes one want to puke.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 1,063 Location: Kenya
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Chemistry teachers should now add this new discovery to various uses of potassium pamarganate
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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He probably wants to be given all the money in the world, or wants people to hoard their cash. So what makes it your business, how I deem fit to dispense my cash? Not everyone is as mean. Holding trinkets so dear... Who was it that said that 'Some people are so poor, all they have is money'
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 1,063 Location: Kenya
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Caramba wrote:alma wrote:Oh why oh why do we have this false anger going around? Is it because by exposing him, we let the world see how Kenyan Pastors are a gang of thieves?
I ask again. Before you go around throwing stones at Panda 310. What is your pastor doing? Is there any difference? Taking money for reading 40 minutes of a sermon about hope for the deprived flock? That is a con game.
Whether you like to hear it or not, your current pastor may just be a conman who can afford good publicity. But he's still a conman.
So stop with abusing someone's wife. She wasn't asking you for your money.
Go back and ask your pastor what the hell he did with your tithe last weekend. Did he buy his wife a new dress, fresh underwear, a bra? Or did he actually help someone who God wanted helped with your money?
Hii tithe is the biggest con going on in Kenya and has all the blessings of the wonderful everlasting and to be worshipped Kenyan pastors. Show me a pastor driving a bmw and a range rover and I will show you a conman. Watu waache Kanyari atengeze pesa. If people want to be conned, iko nini? Kanyari's only crime was getting caught. I see similar cases every sunday in the so called mainstream churches. How did "Mum" and "Dad" get to build that palace in Runda? And to see them floss their Harley Davidsons on the cover of magazines makes one want to puke. EXACTLY...All these preachers eat food donated by their faithfulls and go ahead to vomit on their shoes...ujinga wa waumini.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,595
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Atalaku wrote:An astute businessman with a very clear objective and set targets. People should give others space to do what they are good at. If you are that gullible to be tricked shauri yako. I dont give any tithes or offerings but I help needy people. Tithing is an old testament concept that is not applicable today. Those who have studied theology well know this. These so called men of God are skunks out to prey on ignorant people. I love God with all my heart. But I dont need a go between between me and my God.
...contributions every sunday to build churches and I font know what. We already have too many churches in this country. Let us fill those first. People need to be protected. Not everyone has you level of education, knowledge, experience, emotional stability etc. These people need to be protected. To a large extent, that is what laws do. Protect the weak. This is not a homogeneous society!!! Next, a fresh graduate will be conned by an estate agent and you will tell him/her "shauri yako". Then a young adult will be conned while buying a piece of land and you will tell him/her "shauri yako". Next you will supply to the government [national or county] and they will refuse to pay you and others will tell you "shauri yako"!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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MaichBlack wrote:nakujua wrote:whats the harm in a man making some money, we all do it. Theft, fraud, robbery, thuggery etc. don't qualify as 'making money' Unless of course you want us to let robbers, grabbers, assassins, counterfeiters, drug dealers etc. be because they are 'just making some money'. I don't think ame fanya kosa ki sheria, people give wilingly and as he put it "najua kile watu wanataka" - and he gives people that. if paying money to watch some jamas in europe ran around after a ball is not a con, then what he is doing is ok - if he still manages to get his church full come next sunday then whatever he is doing is appreciated by some.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Atalaku wrote:An astute businessman with a very clear objective and set targets. People should give others space to do what they are good at. If you are that gullible to be tricked shauri yako. I dont give any tithes or offerings but I help needy people. Tithing is an old testament concept that is not applicable today. Those who have studied theology well know this. These so called men of God are skunks out to prey on ignorant people. I love God with all my heart. But I dont need a go between between me and my God.
...contributions every sunday to build churches and I font know what. We already have too many churches in this country. Let us fill those first. Unto each their own. So there are Biblical concepts that are 'not applicable today'? Okei I duly pay my tithes and offerings, from everything I make. Ata stocks... Oh, and I also help the needy! Kare gani!?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2008 Posts: 323
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“You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, burning bushes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need help?”
― Mark Twain
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 1,063 Location: Kenya
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Mukiri wrote:Atalaku wrote:An astute businessman with a very clear objective and set targets. People should give others space to do what they are good at. If you are that gullible to be tricked shauri yako. I dont give any tithes or offerings but I help needy people. Tithing is an old testament concept that is not applicable today. Those who have studied theology well know this. These so called men of God are skunks out to prey on ignorant people. I love God with all my heart. But I dont need a go between between me and my God.
...contributions every sunday to build churches and I font know what. We already have too many churches in this country. Let us fill those first. Unto each their own. So there are Biblical concepts that are 'not applicable today'? Okei I duly pay my tithes and offerings, from everything I make. Ata stocks... Oh, and I also help the needy! Kare gani!? That is you. I have not asked you not to do what you do. I am saying I have a mind and brain to decipher for myself what tge scriptures say...whether right or wrong tgat is how I interpret them and will stick to that.now what is kare gani?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 1,063 Location: Kenya
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MaichBlack wrote:Atalaku wrote:An astute businessman with a very clear objective and set targets. People should give others space to do what they are good at. If you are that gullible to be tricked shauri yako. I dont give any tithes or offerings but I help needy people. Tithing is an old testament concept that is not applicable today. Those who have studied theology well know this. These so called men of God are skunks out to prey on ignorant people. I love God with all my heart. But I dont need a go between between me and my God.
...contributions every sunday to build churches and I font know what. We already have too many churches in this country. Let us fill those first. People need to be protected. Not everyone has you level of education, knowledge, experience, emotional stability etc. These people need to be protected. To a large extent, that is what laws do. Protect the weak. This is not a homogeneous society!!! Next, a fresh graduate will be conned by an estate agent and you will tell him/her "shauri yako". Then a young adult will be conned while buying a piece of land and you will tell him/her "shauri yako". Next you will supply to the government [national or county] and they will refuse to pay you and others will tell you "shauri yako"!!! Bro...there are people who cannot be protected ...not even from themselves. It ypu accessed kanyiri's 12 mobile phonelines you eould be surprised at the hundreds of "condolences" messages he has got from his followers. .. lakini wacha serikali isaidie
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Atalaku wrote:Mukiri wrote:Atalaku wrote:An astute businessman with a very clear objective and set targets. People should give others space to do what they are good at. If you are that gullible to be tricked shauri yako. I dont give any tithes or offerings but I help needy people. Tithing is an old testament concept that is not applicable today. Those who have studied theology well know this. These so called men of God are skunks out to prey on ignorant people. I love God with all my heart. But I dont need a go between between me and my God.
...contributions every sunday to build churches and I font know what. We already have too many churches in this country. Let us fill those first. Unto each their own. So there are Biblical concepts that are 'not applicable today'? Okei I duly pay my tithes and offerings, from everything I make. Ata stocks... Oh, and I also help the needy! Kare gani!? That is you. I have not asked you not to do what you do. I am saying I have a mind and brain to decipher for myself what tge scriptures say...whether right or wrong tgat is how I interpret them and will stick to that.now what is kare gani? Maybe you should also have asked what 'Unto each their own' means, seeing as you went on to repeat it. Calling people gullible, and Pastors skunks for choosing to interpret the Bible using their own God given brains, while you paint yourself as holier-than-thou, using the same God given brain is confusing. Ama wewe ulipewa kichwa mzuri na wengine wakapewa mbaya? Mboss, nget off your high horse
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