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jaggernaut wrote:Mwana-ke wrote:Kufdead....Kanyari is a comedian....waaah chewes Haha...He can also make a good movie director judging by the way he was coaching his staff to give fake testimonies ....even telling them to 'weka punch' to the rehearsed testimony.  This guy should join Churchill or Kenya National Theatre.For a form 2 drop out he is really talented in acting. Hutia Mundu!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/11/2007 Posts: 1,680 Location: nairobi
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I read a comment and the words "man of God" hit me to a point of confusion..I dont like who I am becoming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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jaggernaut wrote:I hope Kanyari doesn't learn new tricks from <<<THIS Brazilian pastor>>>.C&P Valdeci Sobrino Picanto, a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor, has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit". The criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize". "He has convinced us that God could only come into our lives through our mouth and often, after worship, Pastor Valdeci would take us at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation". This is the testimony of one of his victims. The pastor is already in jail where he said that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.  ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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If this is what Kanyari a school drop out can do with Std4 CRE, Std7 drama and F2 Chem, je angemaliza shule??
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2014 Posts: 1,652
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McReggae wrote:jaggernaut wrote:I hope Kanyari doesn't learn new tricks from <<<THIS Brazilian pastor>>>.C&P Valdeci Sobrino Picanto, a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor, has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit". The criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize". "He has convinced us that God could only come into our lives through our mouth and often, after worship, Pastor Valdeci would take us at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation". This is the testimony of one of his victims. The pastor is already in jail where he said that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk. Stealing in the name of the lordHutia Mundu!!
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McReggae wrote:jaggernaut wrote:I hope Kanyari doesn't learn new tricks from <<<THIS Brazilian pastor>>>.C&P Valdeci Sobrino Picanto, a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor, has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit". The criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize". "He has convinced us that God could only come into our lives through our mouth and often, after worship, Pastor Valdeci would take us at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation". This is the testimony of one of his victims. The pastor is already in jail where he said that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk. Lol. At least huko they are prosecuted.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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Mtu Biz wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:In church you tithe and give offering and it's it's the man of god & elders who decide on what it should be used to do. that's not a business investment or tax that you should be involved in what it does!! From my spiritual knowledge ones you give OUT OF YOUR WILLING HEART God accepts and will bless your stores abundantly,whether the pastor misuses it or not. If you're praying and in spirit God guides you to the right place of worship. It's this kind of reasoning that keeps the Kanyari's of this world in business! Gosh!!! The level of gullibility is amazing! People assume a pastor and God are one and the same. Ati don't question a man of God. What? A bucket load of horse manure! A pure con man stealing in the name of the lord and you tell me not to question? Your reasoning is also poor. 1. Don't tithe or give offering for ppl to see you or pastor to use well. Give because you're willing as God commands 2. don't stop going to church and offering because the offering was misused by one pastor somewhere. You're giving to the pastor; you're offering to God. 3. If you feel the offering/tithe is mis allocated(umekwazika rohoni) either don't give or move out to another place of worship where you. "think" it'll be well managed. Rem it's only GOD's spirit that can guide you not your so called laws & calculations. 4. Matters giving & spiritual are not easily identified criminal if it's willfully. maybe the fake id's registrations but not on giving uombewe and of which waliombewa whether upone usipone. 5. Use some wisdom in picking out manure because the manure is very much important in agriculture the backbone of our economy. @ Boris... Walk with me very briefly..... God has given us the ability to know 'him' through the things that can be seen i.e nature all around us is preaching the nature and attributes of God (See Romans 2) In your observation of the mind blowing diversity of the universe, nature ... all of it.. from the expanse of space to the expanse of the microscopic world.. Is it possible to conclude that the designer and sustainer of all this needs anything from a human being ? much less money ?? @mtu biz I see you're drawing me to a debate of the genuineness of "giving to God" . I won't go that way. It's good you've gone through the bible but I think was for discussion purposes & not spiritual nourishment , sorry if am wrong. Read again my no. 1&2 and understand. Further fro the bible you'll get more revelations. What I mean is that now that God helps us see the rogue pastors let's now make decisions as persons other than fighting the pastor for we know God has permitted such evil things among others for us to know good & evil. we can't fight the devil physically. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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The system is rigged against freedom, and it goes deep into human nature. The unmentioned rule is, 'don't go rocking my boat and row, row, row your boat gently down the stream, gently down the stream, life is like a dream'. This Kanyari is playing his role in this dream within a dream within a dream. Please go back to your beds and sleep, each to his dream. Examining the dreamer is something else; why dream? Why this dream? What's the dream beyond this dream? Is the script each lives. Now who wants to change his script? To what? Why? A long winded string, leading to nowhere because we're all Now here. With the grand inquisitor http://en.m.wikipedia.or...ki/The_Grand_Inquisitor
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Boris Boyka wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:In church you tithe and give offering and it's it's the man of god & elders who decide on what it should be used to do. that's not a business investment or tax that you should be involved in what it does!! From my spiritual knowledge ones you give OUT OF YOUR WILLING HEART God accepts and will bless your stores abundantly,whether the pastor misuses it or not. If you're praying and in spirit God guides you to the right place of worship. It's this kind of reasoning that keeps the Kanyari's of this world in business! Gosh!!! The level of gullibility is amazing! People assume a pastor and God are one and the same. Ati don't question a man of God. What? A bucket load of horse manure! A pure con man stealing in the name of the lord and you tell me not to question? Your reasoning is also poor. 1. Don't tithe or give offering for ppl to see you or pastor to use well. Give because you're willing as God commands 2. don't stop going to church and offering because the offering was misused by one pastor somewhere. You're giving to the pastor; you're offering to God. 3. If you feel the offering/tithe is mis allocated(umekwazika rohoni) either don't give or move out to another place of worship where you. "think" it'll be well managed. Rem it's only GOD's spirit that can guide you not your so called laws & calculations. 4. Matters giving & spiritual are not easily identified criminal if it's willfully. maybe the fake id's registrations but not on giving uombewe and of which waliombewa whether upone usipone. 5. Use some wisdom in picking out manure because the manure is very much important in agriculture the backbone of our economy. @ Boris... Walk with me very briefly..... God has given us the ability to know 'him' through the things that can be seen i.e nature all around us is preaching the nature and attributes of God (See Romans 2) In your observation of the mind blowing diversity of the universe, nature ... all of it.. from the expanse of space to the expanse of the microscopic world.. Is it possible to conclude that the designer and sustainer of all this needs anything from a human being ? much less money ?? @mtu biz I see you're drawing me to a debate of the genuineness of "giving to God" . I won't go that way. It's good you've gone through the bible but I think was for discussion purposes & not spiritual nourishment , sorry if am wrong. Read again my no. 1&2 and understand. Further fro the bible you'll get more revelations. What I mean is that now that God helps us see the rogue pastors let's now make decisions as persons other than fighting the pastor for we know God has permitted such evil things among others for us to know good & evil. we can't fight the devil physically. How can one know that Kanyari is 'rogue'?
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tycho wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:In church you tithe and give offering and it's it's the man of god & elders who decide on what it should be used to do. that's not a business investment or tax that you should be involved in what it does!! From my spiritual knowledge ones you give OUT OF YOUR WILLING HEART God accepts and will bless your stores abundantly,whether the pastor misuses it or not. If you're praying and in spirit God guides you to the right place of worship. It's this kind of reasoning that keeps the Kanyari's of this world in business! Gosh!!! The level of gullibility is amazing! People assume a pastor and God are one and the same. Ati don't question a man of God. What? A bucket load of horse manure! A pure con man stealing in the name of the lord and you tell me not to question? Your reasoning is also poor. 1. Don't tithe or give offering for ppl to see you or pastor to use well. Give because you're willing as God commands 2. don't stop going to church and offering because the offering was misused by one pastor somewhere. You're giving to the pastor; you're offering to God. 3. If you feel the offering/tithe is mis allocated(umekwazika rohoni) either don't give or move out to another place of worship where you. "think" it'll be well managed. Rem it's only GOD's spirit that can guide you not your so called laws & calculations. 4. Matters giving & spiritual are not easily identified criminal if it's willfully. maybe the fake id's registrations but not on giving uombewe and of which waliombewa whether upone usipone. 5. Use some wisdom in picking out manure because the manure is very much important in agriculture the backbone of our economy. @ Boris... Walk with me very briefly..... God has given us the ability to know 'him' through the things that can be seen i.e nature all around us is preaching the nature and attributes of God (See Romans 2) In your observation of the mind blowing diversity of the universe, nature ... all of it.. from the expanse of space to the expanse of the microscopic world.. Is it possible to conclude that the designer and sustainer of all this needs anything from a human being ? much less money ?? @mtu biz I see you're drawing me to a debate of the genuineness of "giving to God" . I won't go that way. It's good you've gone through the bible but I think was for discussion purposes & not spiritual nourishment , sorry if am wrong. Read again my no. 1&2 and understand. Further fro the bible you'll get more revelations. What I mean is that now that God helps us see the rogue pastors let's now make decisions as persons other than fighting the pastor for we know God has permitted such evil things among others for us to know good & evil. we can't fight the devil physically. How can one know that Kanyari is 'rogue'? @Boris Forget pastors for a minute both the 'good' and 'bad'. From your personal observation of nature and the cosmos. Does it seem to you that the one who called all things into existence would want/need / require your money ?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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tycho wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:In church you tithe and give offering and it's it's the man of god & elders who decide on what it should be used to do. that's not a business investment or tax that you should be involved in what it does!! From my spiritual knowledge ones you give OUT OF YOUR WILLING HEART God accepts and will bless your stores abundantly,whether the pastor misuses it or not. If you're praying and in spirit God guides you to the right place of worship. It's this kind of reasoning that keeps the Kanyari's of this world in business! Gosh!!! The level of gullibility is amazing! People assume a pastor and God are one and the same. Ati don't question a man of God. What? A bucket load of horse manure! A pure con man stealing in the name of the lord and you tell me not to question? Your reasoning is also poor. 1. Don't tithe or give offering for ppl to see you or pastor to use well. Give because you're willing as God commands 2. don't stop going to church and offering because the offering was misused by one pastor somewhere. You're giving to the pastor; you're offering to God. 3. If you feel the offering/tithe is mis allocated(umekwazika rohoni) either don't give or move out to another place of worship where you. "think" it'll be well managed. Rem it's only GOD's spirit that can guide you not your so called laws & calculations. 4. Matters giving & spiritual are not easily identified criminal if it's willfully. maybe the fake id's registrations but not on giving uombewe and of which waliombewa whether upone usipone. 5. Use some wisdom in picking out manure because the manure is very much important in agriculture the backbone of our economy. @ Boris... Walk with me very briefly..... God has given us the ability to know 'him' through the things that can be seen i.e nature all around us is preaching the nature and attributes of God (See Romans 2) In your observation of the mind blowing diversity of the universe, nature ... all of it.. from the expanse of space to the expanse of the microscopic world.. Is it possible to conclude that the designer and sustainer of all this needs anything from a human being ? much less money ?? @mtu biz I see you're drawing me to a debate of the genuineness of "giving to God" . I won't go that way. It's good you've gone through the bible but I think was for discussion purposes & not spiritual nourishment , sorry if am wrong. Read again my no. 1&2 and understand. Further fro the bible you'll get more revelations. What I mean is that now that God helps us see the rogue pastors let's now make decisions as persons other than fighting the pastor for we know God has permitted such evil things among others for us to know good & evil. we can't fight the devil physically. How can one know that Kanyari is 'rogue'? @philosopher tycho it depends on which side you're inclined: 1. Spiritual. a. Read scriptures on giving & character of church leaders and ask for holy spirit guidance and you'll see that. 2. Worldly. a. Look for laws & acts governing churches b. look into kenyan laws in general. c. Obtain the church's programmes, activities they engage in and financial statements. d. Find the lines separating crime &justified ,good & evil. with help of specialists & consultants. e. subject kanyari to these. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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@Boris, sorry but your recommendations are not practicable to the unschooled, the sick and suffering, the desperate. And if one were even schooled, and a prosecutor in fact, the matter would still be up for contention. For laws are by nature contentious.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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@Mtu biz, if God requires obedience then it's possible that he may require an expression of value, and money is a measure of value.
So money can be involved, and the fattening of the shepherd to provide a test for those who covet.
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tycho wrote:@Mtu biz, if God requires obedience then it's possible that he may require an expression of value, and money is a measure of value.
So money can be involved, and the fattening of the shepherd to provide a test for those who covet. That would mean the human and the rest of creation are under two different laws of obedience, with the rest of creation free to express the fullness of the purpose for which it was intended and the human reduced to a system of rules within which the human proves himself worthy of God by fattening Gods purported representative.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Mtu Biz wrote:tycho wrote:@Mtu biz, if God requires obedience then it's possible that he may require an expression of value, and money is a measure of value.
So money can be involved, and the fattening of the shepherd to provide a test for those who covet. That would mean the human and the rest of creation are under two different laws of obedience, with the rest of creation free to express the fullness of the purpose for which it was intended and the human reduced to a system of rules within which the human proves himself worthy of God by fattening Gods purported representative. And why is that? Don't cows tithe their milk, and sacrifice their own for the sake of the kingdom of cows?
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 All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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tycho wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:tycho wrote:@Mtu biz, if God requires obedience then it's possible that he may require an expression of value, and money is a measure of value.
So money can be involved, and the fattening of the shepherd to provide a test for those who covet. That would mean the human and the rest of creation are under two different laws of obedience, with the rest of creation free to express the fullness of the purpose for which it was intended and the human reduced to a system of rules within which the human proves himself worthy of God by fattening Gods purported representative. And why is that? Don't cows tithe their milk, and sacrifice their own for the sake of the kingdom of cows? Cows have no spiritual hierarchy among them.. to whom among their number do they tithe or sacrifice?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2014 Posts: 1,652
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I love this shark!! Hutia Mundu!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Mtu Biz wrote:tycho wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:tycho wrote:@Mtu biz, if God requires obedience then it's possible that he may require an expression of value, and money is a measure of value.
So money can be involved, and the fattening of the shepherd to provide a test for those who covet. That would mean the human and the rest of creation are under two different laws of obedience, with the rest of creation free to express the fullness of the purpose for which it was intended and the human reduced to a system of rules within which the human proves himself worthy of God by fattening Gods purported representative. And why is that? Don't cows tithe their milk, and sacrifice their own for the sake of the kingdom of cows? Cows have no spiritual hierarchy among them.. to whom among their number do they tithe or sacrifice? Man sacrifices to the power beyond, 'God', and the cows to the powers beyond, the benevolent Man who feeds them and answers to their distress. How could cows be domesticated if they had no understanding, and sense of leadership amongst themselves and with Man?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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tycho wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:tycho wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:tycho wrote:@Mtu biz, if God requires obedience then it's possible that he may require an expression of value, and money is a measure of value.
So money can be involved, and the fattening of the shepherd to provide a test for those who covet. That would mean the human and the rest of creation are under two different laws of obedience, with the rest of creation free to express the fullness of the purpose for which it was intended and the human reduced to a system of rules within which the human proves himself worthy of God by fattening Gods purported representative. And why is that? Don't cows tithe their milk, and sacrifice their own for the sake of the kingdom of cows? Cows have no spiritual hierarchy among them.. to whom among their number do they tithe or sacrifice? Man sacrifices to the power beyond, 'God', and the cows to the powers beyond, the benevolent Man who feeds them and answers to their distress. How could cows be domesticated if they had no understanding, and sense of leadership amongst themselves and with Man? Na wilderbeests ama duck billed platipi ?? Mungu wao ni binadamu?
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