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On morality and ethics
tycho
#31 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 3:46:38 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Let me make understanding of this matter easier for you.

1. You're saying that you can have a relative who's not part of your (extended) family.

2.

tycho: is everything relative @Wakanyugi?

Wakanyugi: Yes. Everything is relative.

tycho: Is your response relative?

Wakanyugi: Yes. The statement that ALL is relative, is relative and not absolute. And it stands even in a black hole.

tycho: Ah! Then that's sufficient reason to relax.

Wakanyugi: 'relax' is also relative and not absolute.

tycho: Then relativism is an absolute?

Wakanyugi: No. relativism is only relative. And stop pestering me with your relatives. Because EVERYTHING is only relative. You terrorist! That's another relative.




Applause Applause Applause

Well done Tycho. Your imitation of me is a great improvement on the original. I should get my girlfriend to read this.

As to my not understanding the words 'relative, laxative, relax, absolute' etc, I am always willing to be taught. After all this kizunguzungu is not of ours. (But I can tell you there is a Vodka in there somewhere).

Now why not have another shot, or three, roll a joint and rel...oops, sorry.


I am defeated.

Thanks for the light Muriel!
Muriel
#32 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 8:51:04 AM
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From the ashes of defeat, we will rebuild. Stronger.
tycho
#33 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 10:03:51 AM
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Muriel wrote:
From the ashes of defeat, we will rebuild. Stronger.


Not everything should be rebuilt. There's something I should lose to gain, and I have lost it here.
Muriel
#34 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 10:37:35 AM
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tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
From the ashes of defeat, we will rebuild. Stronger.


Not everything should be rebuilt. There's something I should lose to gain, and I have lost it here.


Yes.
Wakanyugi
#35 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 12:29:40 PM
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tycho wrote:



I am defeated.


@tycho. It seems you are stubbornly determined to bathe in a pool of self enforced intellectual melancholy.

I'll let you get on with it. So this will be my last contribution to this thread.

Before I go, a small story:



The fleas on Planet dog have their religious leaders, historians and philosophers too.

They tell a myth of origin; how their ancestors arrived here from another planet, whose name no one recalls - that planet was destroyed because the fleas forgot to appease their deity, the great doG. How their ancestors spent many years lost in the wilderness, before the great doG had pity on them and showed them a new planet.

Their historians have recorded tales of disaster and survival; the last tsunami that nearly destroyed the whole race (the dog had taken a walk in the rain). Their philosophers discourse at length on the meaning of life, and whether there is intelligent life on other dogs.

Their religious leader, His Holiness Mullah Dot al Mokiri the Dog Father, preaches in the great hall, (the Dog ear), every Saturday. He foams at the mouth, warning all of coming dangers to Fleadom unless all fleas return to the worship of the true doG. Most fleas simply ignore him.

Yet, from all these words, the only meaningful ones have been expressed by someone that nobody seems to take seriously. Ras Flea spends most of his time in a half stoned stupor. Which is good, because when he is unstoned, no one can understand him anyway. His entire philosophy is summarised in words written on his dirty multi-coloured woollen cap, the only one he owns.

It says: “Relax, life is a terminal condition.’


"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
tycho
#36 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 1:48:38 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:



I am defeated.


@tycho. It seems you are stubbornly determined to bathe in a pool of self enforced intellectual melancholy.

I'll let you get on with it. So this will be my last contribution to this thread.

Before I go, a small story:



The fleas on Planet dog have their religious leaders, historians and philosophers too.

They tell a myth of origin; how their ancestors arrived here from another planet, whose name no one recalls - that planet was destroyed because the fleas forgot to appease their deity, the great doG. How their ancestors spent many years lost in the wilderness, before the great doG had pity on them and showed them a new planet.

Their historians have recorded tales of disaster and survival; the last tsunami that nearly destroyed the whole race (the dog had taken a walk in the rain). Their philosophers discourse at length on the meaning of life, and whether there is intelligent life on other dogs.

Their religious leader, His Holiness Mullah Dot al Mokiri the Dog Father, preaches in the great hall, (the Dog ear), every Saturday. He foams at the mouth, warning all of coming dangers to Fleadom unless all fleas return to the worship of the true doG. Most fleas simply ignore him.

Yet, from all these words, the only meaningful ones have been expressed by someone that nobody seems to take seriously. Ras Flea spends most of his time in a half stoned stupor. Which is good, because when he is unstoned, no one can understand him anyway. His entire philosophy is summarised in words written on his dirty multi-coloured woollen cap, the only one he owns.

It says: “Relax, life is a terminal condition.’




Why should defeat be melancholy? What you're saying is your own relative interpretation, and the story a reiteration of your position.

So if you think about it, you might see who this story applies to mostly- your own self contradiction. Otherwise had you believed in your 'relativism' you'd not have discounted other possibilities even in this context. Especially when you pick half of my quote. Or why do you think I added my gratitude for @Muriel's light?

It helped me see your mind. I set up a small trap and now you've sat on it squarely.
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