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Why do you circumcise women?
Atalaku
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:58:25 AM
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@Alphdoti: Why do you circumcise women?

I am sorry I am dwelling too much on circumcision. You will have to pardon me. I am collecting information to give a talk on FGM contrary to @McReggae who thinks I am the new ambassador of foreskins!!! From next week I will not touch on the topic unless follow up issues crop up. I promise.

Now @Alphdoti @Jguru etc... I would like to rope in some of the Muslim issues on female circumcision in my talk. Please answer the following.
1. What is the meaning of female circumcision in Islam.
2. What does female circumcision in Islam entail?
2. What specific areas of Koran talk about this?
3. Are there women rights in Islam?
4. Is it a must for a Muslim woman to be cut?
5. You said it is better when a man is cut...He enjoys it more...Is it the same for a Muslim woman...that she enjoys sex more when cut?
5. Don't you think your marrying too many women is as a result of unresponsiveness of your women during sex?
Thanks...
kingfisher
#2 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:12:30 AM
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Atalaku wrote:
I am sorry I am dwelling too much on circumcision. You will have to pardon me. I am collecting information to give a talk on FGM contrary to @McReggae who thinks I am the new ambassador of foreskins!!! From next week I will not touch on the topic unless follow up issues crop up. I promise.

Now @Alphdoti @Jguru etc... I would like to rope in some of the Muslim issues on female circumcision in my talk. Please answer the following.
1. What is the meaning of female circumcision in Islam.
2. What does female circumcision in Islam entail?
2. What specific areas of Koran talk about this?
3. Are there women rights in Islam?
4. Is it a must for a Muslim women to be cut?
5. You said it is better when a man is cut...He enjoys it more...Is it the same for a Muslim woman...that she enjoys sex more when cut?
5. Don't you think your marrying too many women is as a result of unresponsiveness of your women during sex?
Thanks...



you need this

And not this malenge version
When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
Atalaku
#3 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:14:33 AM
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kingfisher wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
I am sorry I am dwelling too much on circumcision. You will have to pardon me. I am collecting information to give a talk on FGM contrary to @McReggae who thinks I am the new ambassador of foreskins!!! From next week I will not touch on the topic unless follow up issues crop up. I promise.

Now @Alphdoti @Jguru etc... I would like to rope in some of the Muslim issues on female circumcision in my talk. Please answer the following.
1. What is the meaning of female circumcision in Islam.
2. What does female circumcision in Islam entail?
2. What specific areas of Koran talk about this?
3. Are there women rights in Islam?
4. Is it a must for a Muslim women to be cut?
5. You said it is better when a man is cut...He enjoys it more...Is it the same for a Muslim woman...that she enjoys sex more when cut?
5. Don't you think your marrying too many women is as a result of unresponsiveness of your women during sex?
Thanks...



you need this

And not this malenge version

What now bro?
Swenani
#4 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:16:07 AM
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Atalaku wrote:
I am sorry I am dwelling too much on circumcision. You will have to pardon me. I am collecting information to give a talk on FGM contrary to @McReggae who thinks I am the new ambassador of foreskins!!! From next week I will not touch on the topic unless follow up issues crop up. I promise.

Now @Alphdoti @Jguru etc... I would like to rope in some of the Muslim issues on female circumcision in my talk. Please answer the following.
1. What is the meaning of female circumcision in Islam.
2. What does female circumcision in Islam entail?
2. What specific areas of Koran talk about this?
3. Are there women rights in Islam?
4. Is it a must for a Muslim woman to be cut?
5. You said it is better when a man is cut...He enjoys it more...Is it the same for a Muslim woman...that she enjoys sex more when cut?
5. Don't you think your marrying too many women is as a result of unresponsiveness of your women during sex?
Thanks...


Why are you making an assumption that the somali circumcision of women(cultural/traditional) is a muslim practice?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
kingfisher
#5 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:22:37 AM
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Atalaku wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
I am sorry I am dwelling too much on circumcision. You will have to pardon me. I am collecting information to give a talk on FGM contrary to @McReggae who thinks I am the new ambassador of foreskins!!! From next week I will not touch on the topic unless follow up issues crop up. I promise.

Now @Alphdoti @Jguru etc... I would like to rope in some of the Muslim issues on female circumcision in my talk. Please answer the following.
1. What is the meaning of female circumcision in Islam.
2. What does female circumcision in Islam entail?
2. What specific areas of Koran talk about this?
3. Are there women rights in Islam?
4. Is it a must for a Muslim women to be cut?
5. You said it is better when a man is cut...He enjoys it more...Is it the same for a Muslim woman...that she enjoys sex more when cut?
5. Don't you think your marrying too many women is as a result of unresponsiveness of your women during sex?
Thanks...



you need this

And not this malenge version

What now bro?


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When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
tycho
#6 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:59:45 AM
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Swenani wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
I am sorry I am dwelling too much on circumcision. You will have to pardon me. I am collecting information to give a talk on FGM contrary to @McReggae who thinks I am the new ambassador of foreskins!!! From next week I will not touch on the topic unless follow up issues crop up. I promise.

Now @Alphdoti @Jguru etc... I would like to rope in some of the Muslim issues on female circumcision in my talk. Please answer the following.
1. What is the meaning of female circumcision in Islam.
2. What does female circumcision in Islam entail?
2. What specific areas of Koran talk about this?
3. Are there women rights in Islam?
4. Is it a must for a Muslim woman to be cut?
5. You said it is better when a man is cut...He enjoys it more...Is it the same for a Muslim woman...that she enjoys sex more when cut?
5. Don't you think your marrying too many women is as a result of unresponsiveness of your women during sex?
Thanks...


Why are you making an assumption that the somali circumcision of women(cultural/traditional) is a muslim practice?


Good question @swenani.
AlphDoti
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:11:38 PM
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Atalaku wrote:
@Alphdoti: Why do you circumcise women?

I am sorry I am dwelling too much on circumcision. You will have to pardon me. I am collecting information to give a talk on FGM contrary to @McReggae who thinks I am the new ambassador of foreskins!!! From next week I will not touch on the topic unless follow up issues crop up. I promise.

Now @Alphdoti @Jguru etc... I would like to rope in some of the Muslim issues on female circumcision in my talk. Please answer the following.
1. What is the meaning of female circumcision in Islam.
2. What does female circumcision in Islam entail?
2. What specific areas of Koran talk about this?
3. Are there women rights in Islam?
4. Is it a must for a Muslim woman to be cut?
5. You said it is better when a man is cut...He enjoys it more...Is it the same for a Muslim woman...that she enjoys sex more when cut?
5. Don't you think your marrying too many women is as a result of unresponsiveness of your women during sex?
Thanks...

@atalaku, thank you for your good questions. I'm also humbled by the manner in which they are put. In the most respectful manner. I will also be happy to answer them.

1. What is the meaning of female circumcision in Islam
Answer: FGM has no religious significance. FGM has no Islamic sanction. It is not sanctioned in the Quran.

2. What does female circumcision in Islam entail?
Answer: As I said in question 1 above, FGM is not religious. FGM is a cultural practice. Just like it was found in parts of Africa, it was also practised in Arabia before Islam. So it has nothing to do with Islam.

2. What specific areas of Koran talk about this?
Answer: It is not sanctioned in the Quran.

3. Are there women rights in Islam?
Answer: Yes, women have rights in Islam. Islam gave rights to women 1400 years ago. Compared to other cultures, women were considered nobody even until 20th century. Islam believes and equality of men and women. Islam goes further ans says equality does not mean identicality. In Islam the roles of man and women are complementary, it's not conflicting, it's that of partnership.
(a). Spiritual rights;
(b). Economical rights
(c). Social rights a). Social rights given to a daughter. b). Social rights of wife c). Social rights of a mother d). Social rights of a sister
(d). Educational rights
(e). Legal rights given to women in Islam. According to Islamic law, men and women are equal. The sharia protect the life and property of man and woman both
(f). Political rights: Quran 9:71 - men and women are supporters of each other. Not only socially or economically, but also politically. Islam gives woman right to vote.

4. Is it a must for a Muslim woman to be cut?
Answer: No, it is not a must. It is not religious. Since FGM is not religious, Muslim countries differ over the issue. Some countries sanction it whereas others do not. Whoever chooses not to do it is not considered to have committed a sin. Muslims welcome the recent tougher legislation and enforcement against FGM. Personally I support banning of this practice, because it is not applicable in the modern world

5. You said it is better when a man is cut...He enjoys it more...Is it the same for a Muslim woman...that she enjoys sex more when cut?
Answer: I don't know if circumcised woman enjoys sex more or less. But for male it is better if he is circumcised. Male circumcision is common in Muslim communities. Male circumcision, is one of the obligatory practices in Islam, because it was the practice of the Prophets of God, including Muhammad (s.a.w) as documented in Hadiths. Scientist have also supported this practice

5. Don't you think your marrying too many women is as a result of unresponsiveness of your women during sex?
Answer: No. If this was true, then you would not be seeing those men we see having mpango wa kando, yet their wives are not circumcised. If it were true, you would be seeing men in America, on average, the statistics say that a person has 8 different sexual partners before he settles down with one, yet all those 8 partners are not circumcised. In fact mpango wa kando and mistresses are common, those people with uncircumcised wives 10, 20, 30 no problem, 100! The law will not say anything. But when a Muslim, marry more than one wife, that thing does not go down the throat, why? Because polygamy is one of the controversial questions in the family system of Islam.
Nowhere in Islam say 4 wives is the best. But Islam gives permission. Quran is the only religious scripture on the face of Earth that says marry only one. If you read other scripture, for Hindu, the Bible... no religious scripture say marry only one except the Quran. In fact, the number of men with more than one wife is less than 2.5%.


NOTE: I can give you more details on the women rights in Islam. This will be more useful in your research.

Two questions to you:
- will you acknowledge me in your research paper.
- Will you also be champion of Islam when people ignorantly attack Islam concerning this topic?
Atalaku
#8 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:39:20 PM
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Thank you @imam alphdoti. I appreciate. I will definitely mention you in my presentation. I know as an academician plagiarism is a crime. May allah bless you with a third wife who is a virgin and not circumcised.
Atalaku
#9 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:41:47 PM
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tycho wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
I am sorry I am dwelling too much on circumcision. You will have to pardon me. I am collecting information to give a talk on FGM contrary to @McReggae who thinks I am the new ambassador of foreskins!!! From next week I will not touch on the topic unless follow up issues crop up. I promise.

Now @Alphdoti @Jguru etc... I would like to rope in some of the Muslim issues on female circumcision in my talk. Please answer the following.
1. What is the meaning of female circumcision in Islam.
2. What does female circumcision in Islam entail?
2. What specific areas of Koran talk about this?
3. Are there women rights in Islam?
4. Is it a must for a Muslim woman to be cut?
5. You said it is better when a man is cut...He enjoys it more...Is it the same for a Muslim woman...that she enjoys sex more when cut?
5. Don't you think your marrying too many women is as a result of unresponsiveness of your women during sex?
Thanks...


Why are you making an assumption that the somali circumcision of women(cultural/traditional) is a muslim practice?


Good question @swenani.

...I have delt with that angle already @swenani and @tycho...
AlphDoti
#10 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:41:55 PM
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Atalaku wrote:
Thank you @imam alphdoti. I appreciate. I will definitely mention you in my presentation. I know as an academician plagiarism is a crime. May allah bless you with a third wife who is a virgin and not circumcised.

Ameen. I'm glad I'm allowed to go up to 4 if there is need for it. For now, no need.

By the way, don't you want me to give you details on the rights of women in Islam? You need to see the gist of it, man!
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