what triggered the big bang?

Evolution does not supplement/complement/support creation(unless God created ardepithecus(sp-in the bible context) first which has been evolving to the current state of Homo sapiens).

But creation can complement evolution;God created the "nothing" which exploded and "scattered away together"

But why did he stop creating just after creating the nothing only? He could have just gone ahead and created everything?

Hello Brother!

There's no 'afterlife' only life and death. And death is the alienation of Man from life as a consequence of self consciousness and the knowledge of good and evil. Death isn't about the morgue, it's about the heart of Man being at conflict with itself. Life is perfect harmony.

@Jaggernaut, faith isn't taught anywhere. Faith is the experience of nature and the assimilation of this experience into our cognitive facilities.

@ballistic, the essence of Genesis doesn't change a bit, but the form of the narrative may change to suit the metaphor of our time.

Hello Muriel! 'Evolution', 'Big bang', these aren't valuable because they are facts. They are valuable because they are conceptual models that are more or less consistent with a prevailing understanding of nature offered by what we call 'Science'. These models are competing with the creation narrative every time, and as Man is a tool maker he can only prefer tools that further his cause with the least internal contradiction. So in this case he must change his metaphor to survive.

Because the present matters and humans must find meaning now given what is known. Realize that you've used 'bad'. Ethics, morality comes to question.

Here is the thing.... in this post modern era we are living in we will need to find a way to embrace all these differing worldviews. I ask myself - why did the british who were so eager to cross seas and oceans to spread the gospel turn away from it? They left us with a legacy of the victorian understanding of the bible. These are communities that have been 'christians' for centuries or at most a millienium. How did these people whose came from the crusaders that spilled blood for the sake of the gospel turn away from their ansestors belief system and worldview? We may think the answer is easy ... we who have had the gospel for about 100 years. We may think we know it all since the bible says so.... but do we really know? Our fervent belief lies in the following thing called 'scripture':

1) Since the bible says "all Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness" - we say...yes! it is... we really don't know what "scripture" is. is it the canon as we hold it in our hands? How did this work of literacy land on our hands? who decided to compile it "as is"? Why did they include certain writings/books? why did they exclude others? What was the understanding at the time? what was the story they were trying to tell?
2) We take the bible (the canon) as a historical book. An accurate historical book that should be the source of all other historical records. If it was not in the bible - it did not exist.
3) We take the bible (the canon) as a literal book. That everything happened as written... literally! That the stories of Job, Noah, Moses, Adam and Eve were of actual characters.

I see nigerian preachers galavanting in town saying... divine health...curses...they shall see you... e.t.c. and we forget the Christendom suffered from plagues that killed hundreds of millions of people... their salvation was not in the scriptures but in science.

Unfortunately, the arrogant answer of saying that - "the bible says it I believe it - that settles it" is no longer a valid answer. facts don't really need your consent to be factual.
perhaps we need to be less of this

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which is knowingly wearing ngongoz and looking at things with them.... and accepting that as reality
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I am afraid that we just like the europeans will one day need to come to accept that the worldview of our parents was not accurate/coherent until then... Wapi asprin mbili? I need to put my head back into the hole.

Masukuma

After that long Alphdoti-ish lecture, perhaps you can now tell us what triggered the big bang.

Yes?

Alright.

Though you shy from stating outright what you have accepted and come to terms with. I could not help but notice key words you use which I will dwell on.

Accepting. Coming to terms. I could also say perhaps recognizing, believing?

All this is not really about fact or science but about beliefs, is it not?

So which belief is most approximate to the truth you hold? Which belief do you have? What position have you accepted, come to terms with?

Not really. He is talking about a re-understanding and restatement of God and the universe.[/quote]

Thank you but what are YOU talking about - in green?