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McReggae wrote:Fighting hard facts, presented in a sober and sound order can be very difficult I tell you!!! I agree, in totality. Its all good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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McReggae wrote:McReggae wrote:@Alphdoti, we start with the 1st part THE MESSENGER WAS SIMPLY A HUMAN <Copy pasted text from the link deleted> Can you quote the passages below highlighting the lies in blue point by point as you use the Quran? Fighting hard facts, presented in a sober and sound order can be very difficult I tell you!!! @Mc, how can I go through the junk from a website and justify it to you? Quran says: " Say (O Muhammad): I am only a man like you. It has been revealed to me that your Ilaah (God) is One Ilaah." [Chapter18:110] Now, it is your job go in there and tell me which Hadith says " THE MESSENGER WAS NOT A HUMAN"
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:McReggae wrote:McReggae wrote:@Alphdoti, we start with the 1st part THE MESSENGER WAS SIMPLY A HUMAN <Copy pasted text from the link deleted> Can you quote the passages below highlighting the lies in blue point by point as you use the Quran? Fighting hard facts, presented in a sober and sound order can be very difficult I tell you!!! @Mc, how can I go through the junk from a website and justify it to you? Quran says: " Say (O Muhammad): I am only a man like you. It has been revealed to me that your Ilaah (God) is One Ilaah." [Chapter18:110] Now, it is your job go in there and tell me which Hadith says " THE MESSENGER WAS NOT A HUMAN"  You have always been a master of long posts, that dude is quoting the Quran, breathe in, breathe out, quote that passage and discount what he has said using the Quran, tell us where he has quoted the Quran wrongly, give us the right quote, why is this so difficult bro?....don't argue against the person, argue against what he has presented with you own facts based on the Quran! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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McReggae wrote:AlphDoti wrote:McReggae wrote:McReggae wrote:@Alphdoti, we start with the 1st part THE MESSENGER WAS SIMPLY A HUMAN <Copy pasted text from the link deleted> Can you quote the passages below highlighting the lies in blue point by point as you use the Quran? Fighting hard facts, presented in a sober and sound order can be very difficult I tell you!!! @Mc, how can I go through the junk from a website and justify it to you? Quran says: " Say (O Muhammad): I am only a man like you. It has been revealed to me that your Ilaah (God) is One Ilaah." [Chapter18:110] Now, it is your job go in there and tell me which Hadith says " THE MESSENGER WAS NOT A HUMAN" You have always been a master of long posts, that dude is quoting the Quran, breathe in, breathe out, quote that passage and discount what he has said using the Quran, tell us where he has quoted the Quran wrongly, give us the right quote, why is this so difficult bro?....don't argue against the person, argue against what he has presented with you own facts based on the Quran! Look here @mc, I cannot spend time going through "COPY PASTE" from Internet. You think I can go through the whole Internet, picking each and everything that has been said which is true or false? You're the one who COPY PASTED that site. Now I challenge you to pick alleged Hadiths, which say Muhammad is not Human. That's all. If you cannot find it, then we close that case, the Website is propaganda. Those people know they have already got your trust inline with the perception they wanted. They know you will just read the title and make conclusions from that.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:McReggae wrote:AlphDoti wrote:McReggae wrote:McReggae wrote:@Alphdoti, we start with the 1st part THE MESSENGER WAS SIMPLY A HUMAN <Copy pasted text from the link deleted> Can you quote the passages below highlighting the lies in blue point by point as you use the Quran? Fighting hard facts, presented in a sober and sound order can be very difficult I tell you!!! @Mc, how can I go through the junk from a website and justify it to you? Quran says: " Say (O Muhammad): I am only a man like you. It has been revealed to me that your Ilaah (God) is One Ilaah." [Chapter18:110] Now, it is your job go in there and tell me which Hadith says " THE MESSENGER WAS NOT A HUMAN" You have always been a master of long posts, that dude is quoting the Quran, breathe in, breathe out, quote that passage and discount what he has said using the Quran, tell us where he has quoted the Quran wrongly, give us the right quote, why is this so difficult bro?....don't argue against the person, argue against what he has presented with you own facts based on the Quran! Look here @mc, I cannot spend time going through "COPY PASTE" from Internet. You think I can go through the whole Internet, picking each and everything that has been said which is true or false? You're the one who COPY PASTED that site. Now I challenge you to pick alleged Hadiths, which say Muhammad is not Human. That's all. If you cannot find it, then we close that case, the Website is propaganda. Those people know they have already got your trust inline with the perception they wanted. They know you will just read the title and make conclusions from that.  I went through it that article, and I knew it, he has nailed it with HARD facts using the Quran, even our own @wazuan Iman can't challenge it and resorts to ad hominem, how can quoting the Quran amount to propaganda!!!, I respect that man!!! @Peace bro, this one was simply beyond you, kubali yaishe!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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McReggae wrote:AlphDoti wrote:McReggae wrote:AlphDoti wrote:McReggae wrote:McReggae wrote:@Alphdoti, we start with the 1st part THE MESSENGER WAS SIMPLY A HUMAN <Copy pasted text from the link deleted> Can you quote the passages below highlighting the lies in blue point by point as you use the Quran? Fighting hard facts, presented in a sober and sound order can be very difficult I tell you!!! @Mc, how can I go through the junk from a website and justify it to you? Quran says: " Say (O Muhammad): I am only a man like you. It has been revealed to me that your Ilaah (God) is One Ilaah." [Chapter18:110] Now, it is your job go in there and tell me which Hadith says " THE MESSENGER WAS NOT A HUMAN" You have always been a master of long posts, that dude is quoting the Quran, breathe in, breathe out, quote that passage and discount what he has said using the Quran, tell us where he has quoted the Quran wrongly, give us the right quote, why is this so difficult bro?....don't argue against the person, argue against what he has presented with you own facts based on the Quran! Look here @mc, I cannot spend time going through "COPY PASTE" from Internet. You think I can go through the whole Internet, picking each and everything that has been said which is true or false? You're the one who COPY PASTED that site. Now I challenge you to pick alleged Hadiths, which say Muhammad is not Human. That's all. If you cannot find it, then we close that case, the Website is propaganda. Those people know they have already got your trust inline with the perception they wanted. They know you will just read the title and make conclusions from that. I went through it that article, and I knew it, he has nailed, even @wazuan Iman can't challenge it, I respect that man!!! @Peace bro, this one was simply beyond you!!!! Part 1 is round finished. Conclusion: simply baseless allegation, Muhammad (peace be upon him) was a man. Quran says so, hadithi za mtume does not contradict. Warning: @mc beware of copy pasting sites which are created to spread propaganda against Islam. Advice: @mc, I wish you could spend time and study Islam. You may not like it, but Islam is one complete system of life. Words of God preserved in Quran. Words of the historians, preserved in the Hadiths. You cannot change the Quran. It has never been changed since it was revealed 1,400 years ago. Now bring part 2.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:McReggae wrote:AlphDoti wrote:McReggae wrote:AlphDoti wrote:McReggae wrote:McReggae wrote:@Alphdoti, we start with the 1st part THE MESSENGER WAS SIMPLY A HUMAN <Copy pasted text from the link deleted> Can you quote the passages below highlighting the lies in blue point by point as you use the Quran? Fighting hard facts, presented in a sober and sound order can be very difficult I tell you!!! @Mc, how can I go through the junk from a website and justify it to you? Quran says: " Say (O Muhammad): I am only a man like you. It has been revealed to me that your Ilaah (God) is One Ilaah." [Chapter18:110] Now, it is your job go in there and tell me which Hadith says " THE MESSENGER WAS NOT A HUMAN" You have always been a master of long posts, that dude is quoting the Quran, breathe in, breathe out, quote that passage and discount what he has said using the Quran, tell us where he has quoted the Quran wrongly, give us the right quote, why is this so difficult bro?....don't argue against the person, argue against what he has presented with you own facts based on the Quran! Look here @mc, I cannot spend time going through "COPY PASTE" from Internet. You think I can go through the whole Internet, picking each and everything that has been said which is true or false? You're the one who COPY PASTED that site. Now I challenge you to pick alleged Hadiths, which say Muhammad is not Human. That's all. If you cannot find it, then we close that case, the Website is propaganda. Those people know they have already got your trust inline with the perception they wanted. They know you will just read the title and make conclusions from that. I went through it that article, and I knew it, he has nailed, even @wazuan Iman can't challenge it, I respect that man!!! @Peace bro, this one was simply beyond you!!!! Part 1 is round finished. Conclusion: simply baseless allegation, Muhammad (peace be upon him) was a man. Quran says so, hadithi za mtume does not contradict. Warning: @mc beware of copy pasting sites which are created to spread propaganda against Islam. Advice: @mc, I wish you could spend time and study Islam. You may not like it, but Islam is one complete system of life. Words of God preserved in Quran. Words of the historians, preserved in the Hadiths. You cannot change the Quran. It has never been changed since it was revealed 1,400 years ago. Now bring part 2. Boss take you time quote that post you call copy pasting which has Quran verses, tell us which ones are wring, discount the interpretations, it's reall simple if you ask me, I have a muslim friend who was way better than you, umeshindwa completely!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:McReggae wrote:AlphDoti wrote:McReggae wrote:AlphDoti wrote:McReggae wrote:McReggae wrote:@Alphdoti, we start with the 1st part THE MESSENGER WAS SIMPLY A HUMAN <Copy pasted text from the link deleted> Can you quote the passages below highlighting the lies in blue point by point as you use the Quran? Fighting hard facts, presented in a sober and sound order can be very difficult I tell you!!! @Mc, how can I go through the junk from a website and justify it to you? Quran says: " Say (O Muhammad): I am only a man like you. It has been revealed to me that your Ilaah (God) is One Ilaah." [Chapter18:110] Now, it is your job go in there and tell me which Hadith says " THE MESSENGER WAS NOT A HUMAN" You have always been a master of long posts, that dude is quoting the Quran, breathe in, breathe out, quote that passage and discount what he has said using the Quran, tell us where he has quoted the Quran wrongly, give us the right quote, why is this so difficult bro?....don't argue against the person, argue against what he has presented with you own facts based on the Quran! Look here @mc, I cannot spend time going through "COPY PASTE" from Internet. You think I can go through the whole Internet, picking each and everything that has been said which is true or false? You're the one who COPY PASTED that site. Now I challenge you to pick alleged Hadiths, which say Muhammad is not Human. That's all. If you cannot find it, then we close that case, the Website is propaganda. Those people know they have already got your trust inline with the perception they wanted. They know you will just read the title and make conclusions from that. I went through it that article, and I knew it, he has nailed, even @wazuan Iman can't challenge it, I respect that man!!! @Peace bro, this one was simply beyond you!!!! Part 1 is round finished. Conclusion: simply baseless allegation, Muhammad (peace be upon him) was a man. Quran says so, hadithi za mtume does not contradict. Warning: @mc beware of copy pasting sites which are created to spread propaganda against Islam. Advice: @mc, I wish you could spend time and study Islam. You may not like it, but Islam is one complete system of life. Words of God preserved in Quran. Words of the historians, preserved in the Hadiths. You cannot change the Quran. It has never been changed since it was revealed 1,400 years ago. Now bring part 2. Boss take you time quote that post you call copy pasting which has Quran verses, tell us which ones are wring, discount the interpretations, it's reall simple if you ask me, I have a muslim friend who was way better than you, umeshindwa completely!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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@mc, let us not go in cycles. You are the one who copy-pasted a propaganda website. I asked you to pick Hadiths which contradict the Quran.
Simple as that.
Don't come here and tell us of your friend who better than me. I never claimed I'm better than anyone. When you see meet your friend who is better, tell him to help point out the stories of the prophet (hadithi) which says Muhammad (peace be upon him) was not human.
Otherwise, conclusion is: the prophet was human.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:@mc, let us not go in cycles. You are the one who copy-pasted a propaganda website. I asked you to pick Hadiths which contradict the Quran.
Simple as that.
Don't come here and tell us of your friend who better than me. I never claimed I'm better than anyone. When you see meet your friend who is better, tell him to help point out the stories of the prophet (hadithi) which says Muhammad (peace be upon him) was not human.
Otherwise, conclusion is: the prophet was human. I again ask you, just as you always do long posts in red and blue, take your time and copy that past and give a rebuttal to the propaganda (Quran verses) point by point?....you finding this so difficult? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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and I told the Wazua muslim league members that they worship Muhammad it's only that they don't acknowledge it wakanitupia mawe Even their fellow Muslims know that that's the case!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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 welcome back @Lolest, our Imam is completely flat footed this time round! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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McReggae wrote:Yaani anybody with contradicting view is seen as an enemy of islam and thus should be excommunicated, has the author not quoted actual real scriptures, can you give a rebuttal one by one against what he has posted without arguing against his person? They're always enemies of Islam writing lies about Islam. You should only bliv what sheikh Doti tells you about Islam and any other religions! Sheikh Doti should go consult for weeks like he did last time!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:McReggae wrote:Yaani anybody with contradicting view is seen as an enemy of islam and thus should be excommunicated, has the author not quoted actual real scriptures, can you give a rebuttal one by one against what he has posted without arguing against his person? They're always enemies of Islam writing lies about Islam. You should only bliv what sheikh Doti tells you about Islam and any other religions! Sheikh Doti should go consult for weeks like he did last time!!! Trying times for Wazua Imam, I bookmark this thread for future Islam engagements" ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Lolest! wrote:and I told the Wazua muslim league members that they worship Muhammad it's only that they don't acknowledge it wakanitupia mawe
Even their fellow Muslims know that that's the case!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:
Look here @mc, I cannot spend time going through "COPY PASTE" from Internet. You think I can go through the whole Internet, picking each and everything that has been said which is true or false?
You're the one who COPY PASTED that site. Now I challenge you to pick alleged Hadiths, which say Muhammad is not Human.
That's all. If you cannot find it, then we close that case, the Website is propaganda. Those people know they have already got your trust inline with the perception they wanted. They know you will just read the title and make conclusions from that.
Oooooooh! Look who is talking now! After trawling the internet looking for images of bears falsely tearing up children then COPYING & PASTING them here in Wazua now he self righteously purports ' I cannot spend time going through "COPY PASTE" from Internet. You think I can go through the whole Internet, picking each and everything that has been said which is true or false?' Bure kabisa huyu mutu! Alphdoti, why do I loath you? Help me to love you. Please.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Sijambo Bw.Lolest. Alphdoti is surely shaken down since you last met him.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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Mcdoba you can't seriously expect doti to engage you on anything that criticizes Islam!!
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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