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uchumi rights issue
streetwise
#41 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 4:30:55 PM
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As a change manager his job got finished long time ago, now Uchumi needs a leader to grow the business.

All other attempts will fail..he should read the history of a man known as Naikuni and KQ. The story is always the same the actors change.
Cde Monomotapa
#42 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 4:34:52 PM
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streetwise wrote:
As a change manager his job got finished long time ago, now Uchumi needs a leader to grow the business.

All other attempts will fail..he should read the history of a man known as Naikuni and KQ. The story is always the same the actors change.


Eish boss, ask @Obeiro if he sleeps. The variables that he has to deal with. Mara oil, mara ebola, mara advisory, mara futures etc. Can't compare.
Aguytrying
#43 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 4:52:15 PM
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a company that should be making 1bn in profits in half a year, comes asking for that little money in the form of a rights issue????
be very afraid, they want the money to open more branches? their current branches are in need of cleaning! infrastructure and renovation.

the management needs a paradigm shift , they are not adapting to the market environment...... typical of the mediocrity of GK runs firms. end rant. sorry cde. watch out with this one.

the rights issue will most likely succeed, but this is a shady company, shodily run.
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Cde Monomotapa
#44 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:00:59 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
a company that should be making 1bn in profits in half a year, comes asking for that little money in the form of a rights issue????
be very afraid, they want the money to open more branches? their current branches are in need of cleaning! infrastructure and renovation.

the management needs a paradigm shift , they are not adapting to the market environment...... typical of the mediocrity of GK runs firms. end rant. sorry cde. watch out with this one.

the rights issue will most likely succeed, but this is a shady company, shodily run.


The reasons for your 1st concerns have been answered on page 2.

This reminds me of Cde Vs. The Republic with KCB. Now it's a good business, as an investment? It's another story now.

With the money in hand, and the scripts from the competition, its to deploy more strategically. God willing, beat them at their own game.
jerry
#45 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:45:42 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
a company that should be making 1bn in profits in half a year, comes asking for that little money in the form of a rights issue????
be very afraid, they want the money to open more branches? their current branches are in need of cleaning! infrastructure and renovation.

the management needs a paradigm shift , they are not adapting to the market environment...... typical of the mediocrity of GK runs firms. end rant. sorry cde. watch out with this one.

the rights issue will most likely succeed, but this is a shady company, shodily run.


The reasons for your 1st concerns have been answered on page 2.

This reminds me of Cde Vs. The Republic with KCB. Now it's a good business, as an investment? It's another story now.

With the money in hand, and the scripts from the competition, its to deploy more strategically. God willing, beat them at their own game.

Why not buy from the market at between 9/= and 10/=?
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
VituVingiSana
#46 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:18:31 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
a company that should be making 1bn in profits in half a year, comes asking for that little money in the form of a rights issue????
be very afraid, they want the money to open more branches? their current branches are in need of cleaning! infrastructure and renovation.

the management needs a paradigm shift , they are not adapting to the market environment...... typical of the mediocrity of GK runs firms. end rant. sorry cde. watch out with this one.

the rights issue will most likely succeed, but this is a shady company, shodily run.


The reasons for your 1st concerns have been answered on page 2.

This reminds me of Cde Vs. The Republic with KCB. Now it's a good business, as an investment? It's another story now.

With the money in hand, and the scripts from the competition, its to deploy more strategically. God willing, beat them at their own game.
GoK has a small stake in KCB i.e. the other shareholders can gang up and beat it. I believe GoK has less than 20% in KCB now. That was key. It is OK to have GoK as a shareholder but less than 25%.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#47 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:20:53 PM
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jerry wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
a company that should be making 1bn in profits in half a year, comes asking for that little money in the form of a rights issue????
be very afraid, they want the money to open more branches? their current branches are in need of cleaning! infrastructure and renovation.

the management needs a paradigm shift , they are not adapting to the market environment...... typical of the mediocrity of GK runs firms. end rant. sorry cde. watch out with this one.

the rights issue will most likely succeed, but this is a shady company, shodily run.


The reasons for your 1st concerns have been answered on page 2.

This reminds me of Cde Vs. The Republic with KCB. Now it's a good business, as an investment? It's another story now.

With the money in hand, and the scripts from the competition, its to deploy more strategically. God willing, beat them at their own game.

Why not buy from the market at between 9/= and 10/=?
And unlike Rights Issue shares, these can be dumped if the price does rise before the Rights Issue shares are credited to you!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#48 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:27:13 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
They are raising about 680m so I think it may suceed for fear of dilution if one avoids it but on the other side mr.market may decide to offer a better rights later


more like 890M or thereabouts.

Mr. Ciano has lost it. Time to take a break. They were just singing about the rights issue when the price was ripe-Ksh. 19 - 21. And now a rights issue at todays price? Well, somebody just courted failure Sad

Why should he care? Owns no stake in the business (a vvsish statement!!)and takes home 1.1 metres a month... Who else misses Suresh Shah???

c&p from http://kumekucha.blogspo...supermarkets-story.html

The Untold Uchumi Supermarkets Story
As Uchumi Supermarkets Came Crushing Down Recently, I Couldn't Help Remembering The Smiling Son Of A Dukawalla, The Genius Who Built Up The Supermarket Chain. There Are Many Lessons To Be Learnt Here

I was recently asked by this naïve young girl who has recently completed high school how a business like Uchumi can actually collapse. To her, Uchumi going down was akin to the Central Banking collapsing, it just doesn’t happen.

I then realized that many Kenyans are thinking just the way my young friend was.

My mind went back to my friend Suresh Shah son of a dukawala and born in Mariakani (near Mombasa) who is a chemical engineer by training but was Uchumi’s most successful managing director.

Suresh got his degree from a world famous technical university but couldn’t find a job in Nairobi in the mid 70s, so when an opening with ICDC as a management trainee came up, he grabbed it and never looked back. He cut his teeth doing a painful restructuring at ART (African Retail Traders) that saw him shut down a number of outlets. Then fate landed the then troubled Uchumi Supermarkets in his hands. His instructions were actually to shut it down in an orderly manner.

The supermarket had been launched in Kenya with the help of Italians and was therefore packed with Italian products that nobody wanted. To discover this, Suresh sat in the supermarkets daily for about 30 days (from opening to shut down time) to study the trade. (A fascinating lesson for MDs who want to fully understand their business).

The only thing Shah ended up shutting down in his amazing turnaround achievement at Uchumi were a full Butcher unit in the Industrial area which was bleeding badly. That helped focus the business on the retail trade. He also fired a few employees who were rampant thieves.

Maybe one day Shah’s remarkable feat will be recognized more widely because when he took over Uchumi as MD it was technically bankrupt already. He kept it going by working out a simple and yet elaborate system of turning over cash as many times as possible before having to finally pay a supplier. It involved persuading suppliers to take payments after 45 days and then he used the cash generated from their supplies to make as much additional profits as possible before payment became due.

At the height of Uchumi’s glory, the supermarket chain was a heavy investor in short term treasury bills.

Then there’s the story of the Ngong Road branch of Uchumi. Initially it is said that Suresh almost had a seizure when he was given a quote of what a structure was going to cost on the then vacant lot that the chain had just acquired after Shah noted the heavy affluent traffic on Ngong Road and saw it as an opportunity Uchumi could use. So what did he decide to do? He opted to build a warehouse supported by steel structures on the four corners. Unfortunately the guy hired to excavate the ground did not believe the instructions to dig so close and went ahead and dug according to their own specifications. Shah found a way to use the extra depth and the underground car park was born.

Everybody complained about the ugly ceiling of a warehouse not being appropriate for Uchumi’s stature. They were wrong, shoppers don’t spend their time staring at the roof in a supermarket and anyway the extra high roof without a ceiling saved a fortune in possible air-conditioning facilities. In the end the building cost only a small fraction of what it would have actually cost had conventional thinking been used. That was the genius of Shah. No doubt this stuff was in his bones having been the son of a dukawalla (Asian small trader)

It is now clear that those who took over from Shah despised what they perceived to be his penny-pinching ways. The result is the catastrophe we now have in our hands where over 1,000 families are in serious trouble as their bread winners lose a regular source of income.

Maybe you should find a way to come back Suresh, and help sort out this mess.

And Suresh Shah was the #3 shareholder in Uchumi when it went public. A condition (probably what he wanted) of his continued employment as MD was significant 'skin in the game' and that paid off handsomely for him and his fellow shareholders. Who remembers when Uchumi [IPO'd at 14] hit 60? And had 5/- dividends?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#49 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:30:09 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
^@GG and so Dr. Ciano said they are no longer into building/developing (since 2007). Now, it's to lease a site, hit the ground running. If it doesn't work, fold it like that UG branch and look for a better site.
The issue is not about building or developing sites. In the 90s the concept of building on specification was probably not very common. Uchumi was the first to start leasing in malls e.g. Sarit Center [and it was phenomenally successful] ... Ngong Road was the first hyper-market modeled on what Suresh and his team saw/found in the UK. The senior management used to be seconded to Tesco or Sainsbury (in the UK) to learn the business!
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mlennyma
#50 Posted : Friday, October 24, 2014 11:48:01 AM
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Who the hell will touch this thing falling to 9 bob before the dilution???
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Akenyan2014
#51 Posted : Friday, October 24, 2014 12:05:45 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Who the hell will touch this thing falling to 9 bob before the dilution???

Demand at 8.7 even before the rights. Seems these RIGHTs are actualy WRONG for UCHUMI. Thanks I narrowly skipped buying at 10.00 d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
mlennyma
#52 Posted : Friday, October 24, 2014 12:16:48 PM
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An abuse of a rights issue where a share is more expensive in the rights than the open market,and an advisor sitting somewhere has done his advice work waiting for a fat cheque.....the fair price for the rights was 6 bob
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mkonomtupu
#53 Posted : Friday, October 24, 2014 12:19:43 PM
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Akenyan2014 wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Who the hell will touch this thing falling to 9 bob before the dilution???

Demand at 8.7 even before the rights. Seems these RIGHTs are actualy WRONG for UCHUMI. Thanks I narrowly skipped buying at 10.00 d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!



Sad how Ciano sat on this rights issue with empty promises yet last year the market was willing to pay 15 for the rights. He wasted time cross-listing instead of focusing on getting the money. Who knows if it goes lower it might become a takeover canditate
jerry
#54 Posted : Friday, October 24, 2014 12:24:19 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
Akenyan2014 wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Who the hell will touch this thing falling to 9 bob before the dilution???

Demand at 8.7 even before the rights. Seems these RIGHTs are actualy WRONG for UCHUMI. Thanks I narrowly skipped buying at 10.00 d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!



Sad how Ciano sat on this rights issue with empty promises yet last year the market was willing to pay 15 for the rights. He wasted time cross-listing instead of focusing on getting the money. Who knows if it goes lower it might become a takeover canditate


The rights should have come at 7/= and that's where I see the share by Christmas if not earlier.
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
Sober
#55 Posted : Friday, October 24, 2014 12:59:37 PM
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Akenyan2014 wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Who the hell will touch this thing falling to 9 bob before the dilution???

Demand at 8.7 even before the rights. Seems these RIGHTs are actualy WRONG for UCHUMI. Thanks I narrowly skipped buying at 10.00 d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


I remember the last rights issue was at 5bob. Has the business improved from then or slumped?
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
Pesa Nane
#56 Posted : Monday, October 27, 2014 12:39:04 PM
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At Fridays closing price of Ksh. 9.40, that's a KSh. 0.40 (Forty Cents) discount for the rights. Laughable.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
mlennyma
#57 Posted : Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:19:01 PM
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Mr.monkey touched 8.70 today
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Boris Boyka
#58 Posted : Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:28:07 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Mr.monkey touched 8.70 today

It should touch 5.00 ndio tuone maneno yake.
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mlennyma
#59 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 2:05:12 PM
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8.50 I will know investors are blind if pple buy this one.
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MaichBlack
#60 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 4:24:46 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Mr.monkey touched 8.70 today

No MBA Student can claim he has no topic to research. Of late the NSE has produced numerous potential case studies!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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