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limanika wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:tycho wrote:All is not in the mind. All is mind. Thanks Tycho. You are quite right. I digress. A new creature living on sea bed has just been discoverd, was it in the mind? A new one will be discovered 2100 is it in the mind now ? The answer is 'yes' to both questions. To see this, one needs to ask, 'If all is mind, then where is it?'
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tycho wrote:limanika wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:tycho wrote:All is not in the mind. All is mind. Thanks Tycho. You are quite right. I digress. A new creature living on sea bed has just been discoverd, was it in the mind? A new one will be discovered 2100 is it in the mind now ? The answer is 'yes' to both questions. To see this, one needs to ask, 'If all is mind, then where is it?' Mind does not know?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:limanika wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:tycho wrote:All is not in the mind. All is mind. Thanks Tycho. You are quite right. I digress. A new creature living on sea bed has just been discoverd, was it in the mind? A new one will be discovered 2100 is it in the mind now ? The answer is 'yes' to both questions. To see this, one needs to ask, 'If all is mind, then where is it?' Mind does not know? Again, if all is mind, then it knows and doesn't know.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:limanika wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:tycho wrote:All is not in the mind. All is mind. Thanks Tycho. You are quite right. I digress. A new creature living on sea bed has just been discoverd, was it in the mind? A new one will be discovered 2100 is it in the mind now ? The answer is 'yes' to both questions. To see this, one needs to ask, 'If all is mind, then where is it?' Mind does not know? Again, if all is mind, then it knows and doesn't know. Understanding your point of view, I grudgingly agree. But for debate's sake, aren't 'know' and 'doesn't know' mutually exclusive?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:limanika wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:tycho wrote:All is not in the mind. All is mind. Thanks Tycho. You are quite right. I digress. A new creature living on sea bed has just been discoverd, was it in the mind? A new one will be discovered 2100 is it in the mind now ? The answer is 'yes' to both questions. To see this, one needs to ask, 'If all is mind, then where is it?' Mind does not know? Again, if all is mind, then it knows and doesn't know. Understanding your point of view, I grudgingly agree. But for debate's sake, aren't 'know' and 'doesn't know' mutually exclusive? Like in 'either' 'or'? If that were the case then knowledge wouldn't be possible.
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limanika wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:tycho wrote:All is not in the mind. All is mind. Thanks Tycho. You are quite right. I digress. A new creature living on sea bed has just been discoverd, was it in the mind? A new one will be discovered 2100 is it in the mind now ? It is often said that a major distinction of human beings is the ability of the mind to 'look back on itself' - to assume an external viewing point (even where none exists) for the purpose of critical self questioning. This is not to say that the mind understand itself fully. Far from it. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:limanika wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:tycho wrote:All is not in the mind. All is mind. Thanks Tycho. You are quite right. I digress. A new creature living on sea bed has just been discoverd, was it in the mind? A new one will be discovered 2100 is it in the mind now ? The answer is 'yes' to both questions. To see this, one needs to ask, 'If all is mind, then where is it?' Mind does not know? Again, if all is mind, then it knows and doesn't know. Understanding your point of view, I grudgingly agree. But for debate's sake, aren't 'know' and 'doesn't know' mutually exclusive? Like in 'either' 'or'? If that were the case then knowledge wouldn't be possible. Then knowledge is impossible. Hence what is this we take for 'knowledge'? An illusion.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Wakanyugi wrote:limanika wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:tycho wrote:All is not in the mind. All is mind. Thanks Tycho. You are quite right. I digress. A new creature living on sea bed has just been discoverd, was it in the mind? A new one will be discovered 2100 is it in the mind now ? It is often said that a major distinction of human beings is the ability of the mind to 'look back on itself' - to assume an external viewing point (even where none exists) for the purpose of critical self questioning. This is not to say that the mind understand itself fully. Far from it. There is a relationship between 'understanding' and 'knowledge'. What is it?
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Muriel wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:limanika wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:tycho wrote:All is not in the mind. All is mind. Thanks Tycho. You are quite right. I digress. A new creature living on sea bed has just been discoverd, was it in the mind? A new one will be discovered 2100 is it in the mind now ? It is often said that a major distinction of human beings is the ability of the mind to 'look back on itself' - to assume an external viewing point (even where none exists) for the purpose of critical self questioning. This is not to say that the mind understand itself fully. Far from it. There is a relationship between 'understanding' and 'knowledge'. What is it? Same difference! "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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[quote=vky]can the mind be primed to heal the body without external intervention? http://mobile.nytimes.co...&_r=0&referrer=[/quote] I think we might be losing the really big implications of this article. Let me stretch things a bit here: 1. The mind is the most important actor in healing, aging, performance etc. That is why in some cases placebos are seen to work better than the real item. They incite the mind to get working. 2. All medicine is a placebo. It is not the drugs that heal but the mind. The entire medical industry is therefore based on a lie. 3. The only value we get from drugs, diet, exercise etc, is because these serve as reinforcers (crutches) for the mind. Once you swallow that concoction you expect to get better and so you do. 4. Jesus was right 'your faith has healed you' Have a mindful weekend, won't you? "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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