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Carbacid FY 2014 PBT 6% down
Rank: Member Joined: 11/1/2013 Posts: 257
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Compared to previous FY Turnover down -10% PBT -5.8% PAT +PAT 3% Proposed Final dividend 0.3 form previous 0.6 Closed at 25.0 yesterday The poor H1 results had set the stage,no surprise here http://ge.tt/3QJwck12/v/0
No diagnosis,no pragnosis,no pragnosis no profit......Jesse livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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a nice time to get in now that the hype is finished and share nearer true value now at 25.00 The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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Aguytrying wrote:a nice time to get in now that the hype is finished and share nearer true value now at 25.00 I can't agree more. 24/= will be perfect. The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2014 Posts: 268 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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jerry wrote:Aguytrying wrote:a nice time to get in now that the hype is finished and share nearer true value now at 25.00 I can't agree more. 24/= will be perfect. I tend to think this will take the KAKUZI trend, immediate decline ,quick U turn, rise,rise
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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Carbacid seems more of an investment firm than a pure play [granted their is a huge contribution from CO2]. Let's look at the numbers. 365mn for the 'core operations' 121mn Finance Income 74mn Equity Investment Gains [I expect they will cash out some in 2014 to avoid Capital Gains] 27.5mn Property FVG If Carbacid does sell off some of the equities they could book huge (cash) gains in 2014-15. I doubt these will filter through Profits [already accounted for as non-cash profits]. It is unlikely they will sell off the properties but there is potential for future development albeit there's a 5% Capital Gains Tax on the huge gains. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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This set of results,might see this share beaten to 20 or below given that this are slowdown months and the dividend is below the belt. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/12/2009 Posts: 312
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Guys, I'm very disappointed. I bought at a much higher price than it is currently. Is it wise to load more once the price drops further?
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/14/2014 Posts: 288 Location: nairobi
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Wondergirl wrote:Guys, I'm very disappointed. I bought at a much higher price than it is currently. Is it wise to load more once the price drops further? the actions of a mad man should stop disappointing you.focus on the underlying business otherwise youl end up very very miserable. I find satisfaction in owning great business,not trading them
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/12/2009 Posts: 312
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target1360 wrote:Wondergirl wrote:Guys, I'm very disappointed. I bought at a much higher price than it is currently. Is it wise to load more once the price drops further? the actions of a mad man should stop disappointing you.focus on the underlying business otherwise youl end up very very miserable. @target, thanks. However it is at this place Wazua where I learnt the phrase, never through some good money after some bad money, neither should you try to grasp a falling knife among many other many wise sayings'. I try to be a good student.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/15/2013 Posts: 301
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Wondergirl wrote:target1360 wrote:Wondergirl wrote:Guys, I'm very disappointed. I bought at a much higher price than it is currently. Is it wise to load more once the price drops further? the actions of a mad man should stop disappointing you.focus on the underlying business otherwise youl end up very very miserable. @target, thanks. However it is at this place Wazua where I learnt the phrase, never through some good money after some bad money, neither should you try to grasp a falling knife among many other many wise sayings'. I try to be a good student. Patience pays wondergirl. Study the company, if impressed buy at a lower price where it stabilises and wont seem to go any lower. listen to the advice around you but final decision is yours, its your money. Carbacid is a solid company so try to find out why there has been a slump, and if it seems temporary then return to profit will be inevitable.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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mulla wrote:Wondergirl wrote:target1360 wrote:Wondergirl wrote:Guys, I'm very disappointed. I bought at a much higher price than it is currently. Is it wise to load more once the price drops further? the actions of a mad man should stop disappointing you.focus on the underlying business otherwise youl end up very very miserable. @target, thanks. However it is at this place Wazua where I learnt the phrase, never through some good money after some bad money, neither should you try to grasp a falling knife among many other many wise sayings'. I try to be a good student. Patience pays wondergirl. Study the company, if impressed buy at a lower price where it stabilises and wont seem to go any lower. listen to the advice around you but final decision is yours, its your money. Carbacid is a solid company so try to find out why there has been a slump, and if it seems temporary then return to profit will be inevitable. As much the underlying business is solid, when the results are dull the share can take a heavy beating and discounts can turn premium. So watch out for a fall first before restocking.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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I can remember pple chasing this share at 60's,70's,it is used to rallying and iam sure it will re-visit this ranges sometimes next year if they announce a good H1 2015 numbers,for now its a wait and guess bottom. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2014 Posts: 268 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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whiteowl wrote:mulla wrote:Wondergirl wrote:target1360 wrote:Wondergirl wrote:Guys, I'm very disappointed. I bought at a much higher price than it is currently. Is it wise to load more once the price drops further? the actions of a mad man should stop disappointing you.focus on the underlying business otherwise youl end up very very miserable. @target, thanks. However it is at this place Wazua where I learnt the phrase, never through some good money after some bad money, neither should you try to grasp a falling knife among many other many wise sayings'. I try to be a good student. Patience pays wondergirl. Study the company, if impressed buy at a lower price where it stabilises and wont seem to go any lower. listen to the advice around you but final decision is yours, its your money. Carbacid is a solid company so try to find out why there has been a slump, and if it seems temporary then return to profit will be inevitable. As much the underlying business is solid, when the results are dull the share can take a heavy beating and discounts can turn premium. So watch out for a fall first before restocking. What fall? I am seeing healthy volumes trading today, Price seems to be inching upwards..lowest traded price today as at 11.44 being 26.00
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/1/2014 Posts: 903 Location: sky
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Akenyan2014 wrote:whiteowl wrote:mulla wrote:Wondergirl wrote:target1360 wrote:Wondergirl wrote:Guys, I'm very disappointed. I bought at a much higher price than it is currently. Is it wise to load more once the price drops further? the actions of a mad man should stop disappointing you.focus on the underlying business otherwise youl end up very very miserable. @target, thanks. However it is at this place Wazua where I learnt the phrase, never through some good money after some bad money, neither should you try to grasp a falling knife among many other many wise sayings'. I try to be a good student. Patience pays wondergirl. Study the company, if impressed buy at a lower price where it stabilises and wont seem to go any lower. listen to the advice around you but final decision is yours, its your money. Carbacid is a solid company so try to find out why there has been a slump, and if it seems temporary then return to profit will be inevitable. As much the underlying business is solid, when the results are dull the share can take a heavy beating and discounts can turn premium. So watch out for a fall first before restocking. What fall? I am seeing healthy volumes trading today, Price seems to be inching upwards..lowest traded price today as at 11.44 being 26.00 the excitement is because of small div announced last week, it will still test new low bearing in mind the kind of results they announced There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2014 Posts: 268 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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littledove wrote:Akenyan2014 wrote:whiteowl wrote:mulla wrote:Wondergirl wrote:target1360 wrote:Wondergirl wrote:Guys, I'm very disappointed. I bought at a much higher price than it is currently. Is it wise to load more once the price drops further? the actions of a mad man should stop disappointing you.focus on the underlying business otherwise youl end up very very miserable. @target, thanks. However it is at this place Wazua where I learnt the phrase, never through some good money after some bad money, neither should you try to grasp a falling knife among many other many wise sayings'. I try to be a good student. Patience pays wondergirl. Study the company, if impressed buy at a lower price where it stabilises and wont seem to go any lower. listen to the advice around you but final decision is yours, its your money. Carbacid is a solid company so try to find out why there has been a slump, and if it seems temporary then return to profit will be inevitable. As much the underlying business is solid, when the results are dull the share can take a heavy beating and discounts can turn premium. So watch out for a fall first before restocking. What fall? I am seeing healthy volumes trading today, Price seems to be inching upwards..lowest traded price today as at 11.44 being 26.00 the excitement is because of small div announced last week, it will still test new low bearing in mind the kind of results they announced You are not convincing at all. The dividend was announced with the results the kind you are discussing. Which takes more weight, the dividend or the profit fall?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/13/2009 Posts: 1,950 Location: in kenya
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What is the reason for the reduced Turnover and why have they released such a condensed financial report....is it even legal for a company to release only one set of results i.e P&L while the cashflow and Balance sheet is withheld. '......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/15/2009 Posts: 142 Location: Nairobi
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Staring at a huge loss if I sell today. Will hold and hope for the best.NKT. UKITAFUTA UKABILA UTAKUFA BILA!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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Akenyan2014 wrote:littledove wrote:Akenyan2014 wrote:whiteowl wrote:mulla wrote:Wondergirl wrote:target1360 wrote:Wondergirl wrote:Guys, I'm very disappointed. I bought at a much higher price than it is currently. Is it wise to load more once the price drops further? the actions of a mad man should stop disappointing you.focus on the underlying business otherwise youl end up very very miserable. @target, thanks. However it is at this place Wazua where I learnt the phrase, never through some good money after some bad money, neither should you try to grasp a falling knife among many other many wise sayings'. I try to be a good student. Patience pays wondergirl. Study the company, if impressed buy at a lower price where it stabilises and wont seem to go any lower. listen to the advice around you but final decision is yours, its your money. Carbacid is a solid company so try to find out why there has been a slump, and if it seems temporary then return to profit will be inevitable. As much the underlying business is solid, when the results are dull the share can take a heavy beating and discounts can turn premium. So watch out for a fall first before restocking. What fall? I am seeing healthy volumes trading today, Price seems to be inching upwards..lowest traded price today as at 11.44 being 26.00 the excitement is because of small div announced last week, it will still test new low bearing in mind the kind of results they announced You are not convincing at all. The dividend was announced with the results the kind you are discussing. Which takes more weight, the dividend or the profit fall? Not so long ago it was at 30-33/= and I was eying it thinking it would jump back to 40/=. Then came the fall to 20 then stabilized at current prices. With no positive news on the bottom line, it's more likely to go down than up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,551 Location: nairobi
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